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Why did they change Tribes to Society?
I know its probably because of "woke" localizers. But what exactly is wrong with calling them Tribes other than its not pc which I never thought it was offensive to call them that? Did they change other things to be more pc redundant?
投稿主: Topper mcnabb:
Lorewise: this tie with them moving away from the concept of beast tribes being "savages" in the MSQ as these beast tribes slowly are allying themselves with the Eorzean Alliance and forsaking their savage nature, the name change was inevitable, as they were deemed "beasts" because they worshipped the Banshin "foreing/savage gods" translated as Primals.
By the end of EW you pretty much eliminated all presence of Primals everywhere.

As for the less savory RL PC reasons: According to the lead of localization back in a Fanfest panel, they had "sensitivity consultants" to prevent "an apu incident" in this game when dealing with cultures such as indian and furthermore natives, it's easy to see that naming groups of foreigners as "beasts" did ring some bells in the SE Ethics Department.
Althou I wish they had gone with "Allied quests" rather than "allied societies" because the later sounds like souless corpo BS I expect from Ubisith.
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Archangel の投稿を引用:
Because the infiltration of FFXIV by "them" has been completed, and I don't think it's just the english localization team.

Are "they" in the room with us right now?
$CRWD 2024年7月7日 23時35分 
This question in itself is a perfect illustration of confirmation bias; before considering any answers, you presume it when the actual explanation was far more mundane and present within the game itself. This is why nearly everyone encourages that you watch FFXIV's cutscenes. There's little point to playing a story driven MMO and completely ignoring its story. Play an MMO that exclusively emphasizes gameplay, instead.

Topper only leaves out the important lore tidbit that because some tribes engaged in proto-creation magick, i.e. summoning magick, that the average Eorzean was fearful of ALL of them. Moreover, because these tribes exchanged little but violence with the nation-states of Aldenard, Illsbard, and Othard, people did not fully grasp their level of intelligence, analogous to Garlean indoctrination towards Eorzeans. It was the cooperation/alliance spurred by greater threats that facilitated this change in perspective, and for the umpteenth time, this "theme" was present in FFXIV as early as Heavensward.
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Aya の投稿を引用:
I mean, imagine calling a highly civilized society of Pelupelu a tribe, I'm sure I'd be offended if I were them.

Though I'm not sure why they made the change retroactively when there's no need to but I guess it's to streamlining the process, but i digress.
noone really cares to be fair
They were called beast tribes because they all used to be beast tribes until Shadowbringers. The Pixies were not beasts and neither were the dwarves, so it didn't make sense to call them beast tribes. The Arkasodara, the Omicrons and the Loporrits weren't beast tribes either, so they decided to change the name to Tribal Quests, but perhaps they thought that the name didn't sound good enough, so now they're Allied Societies, after all, the Omicron quests didn't involve just the Omicrons, but also the Loporrits, the Karellians, the Grebuloffs, the Ea, the Dragons and the Nibirun.
Lockhart の投稿を引用:
They were called beast tribes because they all used to be beast tribes until Shadowbringers. The Pixies were not beasts and neither were the dwarves, so it didn't make sense to call them beast tribes. The Arkasodara, the Omicrons and the Loporrits weren't beast tribes either, so they decided to change the name to Tribal Quests, but perhaps they thought that the name didn't sound good enough, so now they're Allied Societies, after all, the Omicron quests didn't involve just the Omicrons, but also the Loporrits, the Karellians, the Grebuloffs, the Ea, the Dragons and the Nibirun.
I see well that does make a lot of sense as to why they changed the name. Basically they aren't actually tribes but more sophisticated, but they are still groups of sentient beings that you do daily quests to build up a reputation with.
Lockhart の投稿を引用:
They were called beast tribes because they all used to be beast tribes until Shadowbringers. The Pixies were not beasts and neither were the dwarves, so it didn't make sense to call them beast tribes. The Arkasodara, the Omicrons and the Loporrits weren't beast tribes either, so they decided to change the name to Tribal Quests, but perhaps they thought that the name didn't sound good enough, so now they're Allied Societies, after all, the Omicron quests didn't involve just the Omicrons, but also the Loporrits, the Karellians, the Grebuloffs, the Ea, the Dragons and the Nibirun.

"Beast," like "savage," was a pejorative within the FFXIV universe (from ARR to SB), and the UI nomenclature changed after they were assimilated (so with 6.1), to reflect this development in MSQ as early as Stormblood.

I could quote my Encyclopedia Eorzea, because this convention died years ago, long before the UI adjustments that came with post-EW content.

Here's a screenshot from my Encyclopedia Eorzea Volume II. Page 250. Published November 24th, 2018: https://imgur.com/a/j4NtsrM

Shadowbringers released on July 2nd, 2019, for reference.

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I always thought Tribes wasn’t quite the right word and didn’t really fit
furfrou7071 の投稿を引用:
we live in a society....
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Because technically they're not tribes and society is more broad
They can call them whatever they want, I am and will still call them beast tribes because that is what they are and no amount of DEI "sensitivity" ♥♥♥♥ can stop me.
Deadman'shand の投稿を引用:
They can call them whatever they want, I am and will still call them beast tribes because that is what they are and no amount of DEI "sensitivity" ♥♥♥♥ can stop me.
You do understand they are fictional
Deadman'shand の投稿を引用:
They can call them whatever they want, I am and will still call them beast tribes because that is what they are and no amount of DEI "sensitivity" ♥♥♥♥ can stop me.
What is blud babblin' about? 💀
Seriously, English dude. ENG-LISH.
For those not willing to read the OP and the chosen answer. Beast no longer applies because the races are no longer tied to a god via a thing called Tempering which is explained in Endwalker. Then to add that in Shadowbringers and Endwalker we don't work with beast races and now work with other humanlike races, minus the SHB Pixies (or once was human)
Soul Walker の投稿を引用:
For those not willing to read the OP and the chosen answer. Beast no longer applies because the races are no longer tied to a god via a thing called Tempering which is explained in Endwalker. Then to add that in Shadowbringers and Endwalker we don't work with beast races and now work with other humanlike races, minus the SHB Pixies (or once was human)
Unfortunately those claiming wokeness usually skip story
Adam__86 の投稿を引用:
Soul Walker の投稿を引用:
For those not willing to read the OP and the chosen answer. Beast no longer applies because the races are no longer tied to a god via a thing called Tempering which is explained in Endwalker. Then to add that in Shadowbringers and Endwalker we don't work with beast races and now work with other humanlike races, minus the SHB Pixies (or once was human)
Unfortunately those claiming wokeness usually skip story
To be fair, FFXIV's MSQ requires basic media literacy to comprehend in the first place. UwU
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