what's the problem with wuk lamat?

[necrogirl55]

how is she an evil character? she wants her people to be happy, how is that so wrong?

[Holy Athena]

I've seen your other posts here, and this just seems like a bad troll attempt. You know the discussion, and reasons for not liking Wuk from the 3 other posts you're responding too and interacting with people about.

[Haru]

She's basically over done character trope; i-e: Goku/Luffy/etc, but somehow, to me at least, feels incredibly forced. It's uncanny as heck.

And her English voice acting is extremely poor. Like 4kidz dub level quality.

[Arbor]

I don’t have a problem with the character but the writing, narrative and gameplay decisions associated with them were bad so I don’t particularly care for them.

[Ryulightorb]

Nothing she is a good character.
people like to ♥♥♥♥♥ about good characters

[Shakja]

Wuk Lamat isn't an evil character, but she's a very one-note shounen protagonist. Some people don't like that kind of character, no matter what.
My problem with her is the way she's used for emotional blackmail and blatant manipulation by the writers in the later half of the MSQ. Her development just... stops and is replaced by constant repetitions of the first half to push an agenda I will never agree with.
Character is fine, writing is not

[causality]

Originally posted by Haru:

She's basically over done character trope; i-e: Goku/Luffy/etc, but somehow, to me at least, feels incredibly forced. It's uncanny as heck.

And her English voice acting is extremely poor. Like 4kidz dub level quality.

People forgetting this is a Rated T game marketed at children. Of course it's going to have easily digestible shounen tropes.

[Replicant Six]

Originally posted by causality:

Originally posted by Haru:

She's basically over done character trope; i-e: Goku/Luffy/etc, but somehow, to me at least, feels incredibly forced. It's uncanny as heck.

And her English voice acting is extremely poor. Like 4kidz dub level quality.

People forgetting this is a Rated T game marketed at children. Of course it's going to have easily digestible shounen tropes. :lunar2019piginablanket:

It's not because it's rated T, it's because it's a Final Fantasy game hahah

[galacticcorgi]

People don't like that we aren't worshiped and can't throw our ♥♥♥♥ around and force everything, nor that by the story the WoL doesn't WANT that. In Tural, the WoL is treated like a normal person, not a god-slaying weapon who's saved the world over and over. And I imagine that's REFRESHING for them. It's like people forgot what early DRK was even about--that the WoL loves being an adventurer and helping people, but also is TIRED of having to save the world to some degree. (But if they don't, then who will?)

[GeminiEclipse]

She reminds me a lot of Lyse. She's always around and the main character. So if you bounce off her you won't have a good time.

I think they did a lot better job making her into a potential leader unlike Lyse. Wasn't a fan of the ending though.

[Haru]

Originally posted by galacticcorgi:

People don't like that we aren't worshiped and can't throw our ♥♥♥♥ around and force everything, nor that by the story the WoL doesn't WANT that. In Tural, the WoL is treated like a normal person, not a god-slaying weapon who's saved the world over and over. And I imagine that's REFRESHING for them. It's like people forgot what early DRK was even about--that the WoL loves being an adventurer and helping people, but also is TIRED of having to save the world to some degree. (But if they don't, then who will?)

Finding the PoV character boring or poorly written //-// wanting the plot to center entirely around your character.

You're still reminded constantly in the MSQ or reminding other people about who or what you are. The only interesting part is the mentor part.

What people are more irked about is that the story revolves around a character that they don't like, or that they have limited choice in being around that character. This weird looking cat person means nothing to me. Half of these quests could be tribal quests that I choose to do while adventuring and looking for the Golden City on behalf of Krile.

Puke On a Mat is not enriching my experience of the game.

[galacticcorgi]

Originally posted by Haru:

Originally posted by galacticcorgi:

People don't like that we aren't worshiped and can't throw our ♥♥♥♥ around and force everything, nor that by the story the WoL doesn't WANT that. In Tural, the WoL is treated like a normal person, not a god-slaying weapon who's saved the world over and over. And I imagine that's REFRESHING for them. It's like people forgot what early DRK was even about--that the WoL loves being an adventurer and helping people, but also is TIRED of having to save the world to some degree. (But if they don't, then who will?)

Finding the PoV character boring or poorly written //-// wanting the plot to center entirely around your character.

You're still reminded constantly in the MSQ or reminding other people about who or what you are. The only interesting part is the mentor part.

What people are more irked about is that the story revolves around a character that they don't like, or that they have limited choice in being around that character. This weird looking cat person means nothing to me. Half of these quests could be tribal quests that I choose to do while adventuring and looking for the Golden City on behalf of Krile.

Puke On a Mat is not enriching my experience of the game.

Every single person I've seen complain about Wuk Lamat then turns around and inevitably talks about how disrespected they feel their WoL is. Or they think Koana is hot and see no problems with him being a techbro Sharlayaboo.

A lot of people straight up don't like Wuk Lamat because they want to steamroll over everything and swing their e-peen round.

[Haru]

Originally posted by galacticcorgi:

Originally posted by Haru:

Finding the PoV character boring or poorly written //-// wanting the plot to center entirely around your character.

You're still reminded constantly in the MSQ or reminding other people about who or what you are. The only interesting part is the mentor part.

What people are more irked about is that the story revolves around a character that they don't like, or that they have limited choice in being around that character. This weird looking cat person means nothing to me. Half of these quests could be tribal quests that I choose to do while adventuring and looking for the Golden City on behalf of Krile.

Puke On a Mat is not enriching my experience of the game.

Every single person I've seen complain about Wuk Lamat then turns around and inevitably talks about how disrespected they feel their WoL is. Or they think Koana is hot and see no problems with him being a techbro Sharlayaboo.

A lot of people straight up don't like Wuk Lamat because they want to steamroll over everything and swing their e-peen round.

I'd rather back Koana because he has a brain between his ears and isn't an overdone shonen trope that I feel forced into liking. That being said, I'm not the biggest fan either since his character arc (SPOILER) culminates in "hell yeah, wuk lamat! uwu <3 <3 <3". Like every other schmuck you meet during this expansion.

It's grating.

We're still steamrolling over everything, because of who and what we are. The only difference is that to engage in that steam rolling, we have to engage in pokémon episode tier activities with a characte- oh god, we're basically filling the Brock and Misty role.

Help. Get me out. GET ME OUT.

[galacticcorgi]

Originally posted by Haru:

Originally posted by galacticcorgi:

Every single person I've seen complain about Wuk Lamat then turns around and inevitably talks about how disrespected they feel their WoL is. Or they think Koana is hot and see no problems with him being a techbro Sharlayaboo.

A lot of people straight up don't like Wuk Lamat because they want to steamroll over everything and swing their e-peen round.

I'd rather back Koana because he has a brain between his ears and isn't an overdone shonen trope that I feel forced into liking. That being said, I'm not the biggest fan either since his character arc (SPOILER) culminates in "hell yeah, wuk lamat! uwu <3 <3 <3". Like every other schmuck you meet during this expansion.

It's grating.

We're still steamrolling over everything, because of who and what we are. The only difference is that to engage in that steam rolling, we have to engage in pokémon episode tier activities with a characte- oh god, we're basically filling the Brock and Misty role.

Help. Get me out. GET ME OUT.

Koana wants so badly for Tural to become a Sharlayan colony. So no thanks. He shows no compassion for his people, only cares about efficiency... He's a techbro who only cares about results, not the happiness of his people. He'd be that person chasing NFTs.

[Haru]

Originally posted by galacticcorgi:

Originally posted by Haru:

I'd rather back Koana because he has a brain between his ears and isn't an overdone shonen trope that I feel forced into liking. That being said, I'm not the biggest fan either since his character arc (SPOILER) culminates in "hell yeah, wuk lamat! uwu <3 <3 <3". Like every other schmuck you meet during this expansion.

It's grating.

We're still steamrolling over everything, because of who and what we are. The only difference is that to engage in that steam rolling, we have to engage in pokémon episode tier activities with a characte- oh god, we're basically filling the Brock and Misty role.

Help. Get me out. GET ME OUT.

Koana wants so badly for Tural to become a Sharlayan colony. So no thanks. He shows no compassion for his people, only cares about efficiency... He's a techbro who only cares about results, not the happiness of his people. He'd be that person chasing NFTs.

Lots of Turali also want that as well, lol. Wuk Lamat wants to maintain the status quo.

The only limitation I don't like in his thinking is that he never extrapolates on how to adapt technologies unique to Tural in the long term. I think what they've done with the dirigibles is great. That being said, I don't think he's an ideal leader either.

But I'll take him over the next king of the pirates or hokage.

[Ryulightorb]

Originally posted by Haru:

Originally posted by galacticcorgi:

Koana wants so badly for Tural to become a Sharlayan colony. So no thanks. He shows no compassion for his people, only cares about efficiency... He's a techbro who only cares about results, not the happiness of his people. He'd be that person chasing NFTs.

Lots of Turali also want that as well, lol. Wuk Lamat wants to maintain the status quo.

The only limitation I don't like in his thinking is that he never extrapolates on how to adapt technologies unique to Tural in the long term. I think what they've done with the dirigibles is great. That being said, I don't think he's an ideal leader either.

But I'll take him over the next king of the pirates or hokage.

Most of Turali do not want to become a colony of Sharlayan or to abandon their traditions tho