The MSQ roulette needs to be changed or removed.

[Sweetllew]

the fact that it is a que for only 1 out of 3 things that you can not skip any cutscenes and almost always get the first one which is the longest makes no sense. there has been nothing added to it since ARR which has been a while now.
move the rewards from it to dungeons and plug them back in there changing how the cutscene works or add more to the pool from other dlc's it is literally the worst daily thing in the game to do that sucks the joy sitting behind 10 minutes of talking from characters instead of putting time elsewhere in the game

[Sweetllew]

Originally posted by Sunny:

Originally posted by Giganx:

I don't really get the "I don't like it so they have to get rid of it!" mentality either. Do you all not have the self control to not engage in activities you don't feel are worth it? Do you need SE to protect you from yourselves?

Yeah, this. I guess the perspective is that they don't want other people to get the tokens that way if they don't? I can't think of anything else.

The problem is that if you need poetics for mats you need to run it to be getting a decent bit daily

[Sunny]

Originally posted by Sweetllew:

Originally posted by Sunny:

Yeah, this. I guess the perspective is that they don't want other people to get the tokens that way if they don't? I can't think of anything else.

The problem is that if you need poetics for mats you need to run it to be getting a decent bit daily

The reason you get "a decent bit" is because it sucks. If they took away the suck, you would just lose that way to earn poetics.

There's no need to bribe you to do things you would otherwise do anyway. Just things you wouldn't.

You can completely emulate the game doing what you're asking for: just don't queue, even if it's the best way. It's what you'd get from what you're asking, so. Have a little shred of self-control.

[Integrity]

Originally posted by FlyingTorcensoredWhale:

Easy solution. Check if anyone is doing the dungeon for the first time.
If yes - no skip, fair is fair.
If no - allow skipping. Because when out of 4 party members not one is even a sprout, what's the argument?

I hope they follow your suggestion this because then I would exploit the f out of it for rewards. Unfortunately SE is smarter than that.

[Giganx]

The "how about if we get rewards faster for AVOIDING playing with new players!" suggestion is probably my favorite. It misses the point so entirely that it's comical.

[Raansu]

Originally posted by Sweetllew:

Originally posted by Veotax:

You used to be able to skip the cutscenes years ago, it was terrible for new players. Everyone would just run ahead while you were watching the cutscenes and you wouldn't actually be able to play the dungeon.
When they made the cutscenes unskippable, they upped the rewards for MSQ to make up for the extra time you're in there.

Yeah but the upped rewards still do not balance as if you were to complete 3 trials you would hit more from that in the same time.
it is to big of a time sink for the most part and even as a new doing it the first time i hated having to watch everything since at the time i did not care for the story

I get nearly a full level of exp when I run the MSQ roulette. No idea what you're on about. 1 frontline roulette and 1 run of MSQ roulette pretty much guarantees 1 and a half level on the exp bar. The exp rewards are good, I just personally prefer to run highest level dungeon because it is technically faster if you have a static group to spam them. If you're waiting on the queue times though? Can't beat the exp you get from the MSQ.

[Giganx]

Originally posted by Sweetllew:

Originally posted by Giganx:

Because the entire point of the roulettes existence is so people will run the content with new players.

If you have the option to skip cutscenes if there are no new players in your group then people are going to start vote kicking new players, or leaving instance if the group has new players.

I think a lot of you have the wrong idea here. The MSQ roulette isn't for you; the point isn't so you'll have a "fun" way to level up. It exists so new players can run this group content and experience the story. The EXP and poetics are Square Enix PAYING you to sit through the cutscenes again for the sake of new players. "Why can't I skip the cutscenes" is a tone deaf question.

the problem with the "New" content is that it is from ARR which is very old at this point it is MSQ required which would make more sense to make those solo trials with NPC's.

While I actually somewhat agree that would make more sense, why bother? It's not like the current system isn't working. Why invest time and resources into fixing a problem that doesn't exist?

Beyond that, a lot of people like being able to passively level up their characters and get tomes just for having some cutscenes running in the background while they do other things. I play this game passively at work a lot, so MSQ fits into that nicely.

[PasseParTrou [FR]]

What do you mean the first one is the longest ??? Praetorium is so long you could watch a movie instead, meanwhile Castrum Meridianum has one quick cinematic, instead of Introduction with Cid/Gaius and his robot friend/Your mount dies/Hi Nero/Bye Nero/Gaius the pirate 17 minutes against 28 or even the 16 minutes of Ultima arma

[Tekmaal]

The MSQ roulette could comfortably add the first X0 dungeon/3rd story trial of each expansion into it's pool, just to give it some variety, and continue to serve it's intended purpose on a wider scope.

[Laciel]

MSQ duty is the most pointless thing included in the mentor roulette. They did change it a lot and it is way shorter but it is still annoying. They should implement the NPC companions for these two duties and that would solve this whole problem.

[AH-1 Cobra]

It's not just the MSQ roulette, but roulettes in general. You got better methods to level your alts than slough through trash early-game dungeons with clueless newbies. I leveled every class to 70 on my free account except for blue mage, and I didn't even que dungeons with other players for most of those levels.

[Dethlane]

Originally posted by AH-1 Cobra:

You got better methods to level your alts than slough through trash early-game dungeons

And what are these methods?

[Raansu]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Originally posted by AH-1 Cobra:

You got better methods to level your alts than slough through trash early-game dungeons

And what are these methods?

Dungeon spamming highest level dungeon is technically the fastest way to level, but its only fast if you have a premade group or you're a tank/healer that gets near insta pops. After that(especially for DPS), its deep dungeons and bozja (if they are still populated. I haven't ran an older deep dungeon or bozja since the launch of endwalker)

Roulettes are nice for a easy chunk of EXP and some tomes (most just queue for the end game tomes), but if you wanna level quickly, its definitely not the efficient route.

[ta24-b2]

Originally posted by Integrity:

I hate it. But I have to think of it from a new player's perspective. The whole point is to help new players progress.

new player expirience here: i did not care for the 10-15 minutes of cutscene in ultima weapon or whatever it was called. that ♥♥♥♥ sucked hard (dont come at me with the "play another game then if you didnt like the story" cutscenes that long just need to have the option to skip imo)

[Nito]

Originally posted by ta24-b2:

new player expirience here: i did not care for the 10-15 minutes of cutscene in ultima weapon or whatever it was called. that ♥♥♥♥ sucked hard (dont come at me with the "play another game then if you didnt like the story" cutscenes that long just need to have the option to skip imo)

on the contrary they offer so little...like the "trial" fight cutscene is long but at least explain why the hell a nuke dropped but the ones in the Praetorium are so useless

and they keep saying like the "new players" cant beat this fight or have no other way to do it without using the help of players that will literally carry them on this fights which is even more weird because guildheist exist literally to teach "new players" or like the loot will boost those players.

[Raansu]

Originally posted by ta24-b2:

Originally posted by Integrity:

I hate it. But I have to think of it from a new player's perspective. The whole point is to help new players progress.

dont come at me with the "play another game then if you didnt like the story" cutscenes that long just need to have the option to skip imo

Well, I'm gonna say it lol. This is a story focused game and later expansions have cutscenes that are 30+ minutes. If all you wanna do is skip through cutscenes, then you're missing out on like 80% of the game and should probably find a different MMO, since this game does not focus heavily on end game.