The MSQ roulette needs to be changed or removed.

[Sweetllew]

the fact that it is a que for only 1 out of 3 things that you can not skip any cutscenes and almost always get the first one which is the longest makes no sense. there has been nothing added to it since ARR which has been a while now.
move the rewards from it to dungeons and plug them back in there changing how the cutscene works or add more to the pool from other dlc's it is literally the worst daily thing in the game to do that sucks the joy sitting behind 10 minutes of talking from characters instead of putting time elsewhere in the game

[Giganx]

Boznete a écrit :

The roulette is fine for new players like me, the only bad thing is that you can not skip the cutscenes, just why? If everyone did the cutscenes at least 3 times why can't skip...

Because the entire point of the roulettes existence is so people will run the content with new players.

If you have the option to skip cutscenes if there are no new players in your group then people are going to start vote kicking new players, or leaving instance if the group has new players.

I think a lot of you have the wrong idea here. The MSQ roulette isn't for you; the point isn't so you'll have a "fun" way to level up. It exists so new players can run this group content and experience the story. The EXP and poetics are Square Enix PAYING you to sit through the cutscenes again for the sake of new players. "Why can't I skip the cutscenes" is a tone deaf question.

[MOSLEY]

They should move crystal tower alliance raids to MSQ Roulette IMO. It would both make alliance raid roulette more interesting and make MSQ roulette more varied.

[Veotax]

Boznete a écrit :

The roulette is fine for new players like me, the only bad thing is that you can not skip the cutscenes, just why? If everyone did the cutscenes at least 3 times why can't skip...

You used to be able to skip the cutscenes years ago, it was terrible for new players. Everyone would just run ahead while you were watching the cutscenes and you wouldn't actually be able to play the dungeon.
When they made the cutscenes unskippable, they upped the rewards for MSQ to make up for the extra time you're in there.

[Stormy Dawn]

MOSLEY a écrit :

They should move crystal tower alliance raids to MSQ Roulette IMO. It would both make alliance raid roulette more interesting and make MSQ roulette more varied.

Yeah. I'd honestly be okay with that.

Be nice to not see Crystal Tower raids as much. Granted we don't get them as much now that you are forced to unlock your respective level's alliance raids, but by virtue of being required for progression, they still show up more often than the others and nothing will ever change that unless they are removed from the roulette.

[Nito]

Giganx a écrit :

Because the entire point of the roulettes existence is so people will run the content with new players.

If you have the option to skip cutscenes if there are no new players in your group then people are going to start vote kicking new players, or leaving instance if the group has new players.

I think a lot of you have the wrong idea here. The MSQ roulette isn't for you; the point isn't so you'll have a "fun" way to level up. It exists so new players can run this group content and experience the story. The EXP and poetics are Square Enix PAYING you to sit through the cutscenes again for the sake of new players. "Why can't I skip the cutscenes" is a tone deaf question.

Which enters the problem that older players are being dragged into it

It is a choice or make it skippable or make it only for new players

[Stormy Dawn]

Giganx a écrit :

I think a lot of you have the wrong idea here. The MSQ roulette isn't for you; the point isn't so you'll have a "fun" way to level up. It exists so new players can run this group content and experience the story.

I think it is you who has it backwards. The MSQ roulette is designed exactly for those players. The new players don't need the roulette, they are queueing for the instance itself, not running the roulette. The roulette is designed to incentivize those who have already completed the content, to run it again.

[galacticcorgi]

Nito a écrit :

Giganx a écrit :

Because the entire point of the roulettes existence is so people will run the content with new players.

If you have the option to skip cutscenes if there are no new players in your group then people are going to start vote kicking new players, or leaving instance if the group has new players.

I think a lot of you have the wrong idea here. The MSQ roulette isn't for you; the point isn't so you'll have a "fun" way to level up. It exists so new players can run this group content and experience the story. The EXP and poetics are Square Enix PAYING you to sit through the cutscenes again for the sake of new players. "Why can't I skip the cutscenes" is a tone deaf question.

Which enters the problem that older players are being dragged into it

It is a choice or make it skippable or make it only for new players

Then new players will never get it done. You know what you're signing the ♥♥♥♥ up for when you enter that roulette.

[Giganx]

Tsurayu a écrit :

Giganx a écrit :

I think a lot of you have the wrong idea here. The MSQ roulette isn't for you; the point isn't so you'll have a "fun" way to level up. It exists so new players can run this group content and experience the story.

I think it is you who has it backwards. The MSQ roulette is designed exactly for those players. The new players don't need the roulette, they are queueing for the instance itself, not running the roulette. The roulette is designed to incentivize those who have already completed the content, to run it again.

So why incentivize people who have already run the content to do it again? The only reason this roulette exists is to keep that content active for new players. You people suggesting ways to make it more appealing for veteran players, at the expense of new players ability to see and enjoy the content, are missing the point.

The roulette is already active enough to allow new players to see the content, and thus is serving it's ONLY purpose. Veteran players are already perfectly happy to sit through the cutscenes again for the present rewards, so further incentivizing you is unnecessary because this roulette isn't for you.

Nito a écrit :

Which enters the problem that older players are being dragged into it

It is a choice or make it skippable or make it only for new players

No ones being dragged into anything; if you don't think it's worth your time then don't do it. There will be enough players to fill the queue without you; myself being one of them.

[Nito]

galacticcorgi a écrit :

Then new players will never get it done. You know what you're signing the ♥♥♥♥ up for when you enter that roulette.

The Npcs can literally win that fight by themselves well except the final boss with the lb that is a wipe and you literally need to press 3 buttons and walk

[Nito]

Giganx a écrit :

No ones being dragged into anything; if you don't think it's worth your time then don't do it. There will be enough players to fill the queue without you; myself being one of them.

Except this gives more tomes than any other roulette and exp all they way to lvl 90 which you really need to lvl up you know all the combat classes.

While tomes are you know the most important thing to catch up content gear and even. And if we are talking about not being dragged sure you are not even dragged to play just let your subscription to expire.

Well good for you. I mean same could be said on any content of the game which doesnt stop MSQ from being crap. And if you want Tomes and xp you ARE forced to play it. Or lose half of your daily tome gain.

[Giganx]

Nito a écrit :

Giganx a écrit :

No ones being dragged into anything; if you don't think it's worth your time then don't do it. There will be enough players to fill the queue without you; myself being one of them.

Except this gives more tomes than any other roulette and exp all they way to lvl 90 which you really need to lvl up you know all the combat classes.

While tomes are you know the most important thing to catch up content gear and even. And if we are talking about not being dragged sure you are not even dragged to play just let your subscription to expire.

Well good for you. I mean same could be said on any content of the game which doesnt stop MSQ from being crap. And if you want Tomes and xp you ARE forced to play it. Or lose half of your daily tome gain.

So, the roulettes rewards are worth the time you're spending and you'll continue running them? Fantastic and working exactly as intended.

Again, MSQ content you already did 10 years ago isn't there for you. You're simply being paid to keep it active for new players; so take your EXP/Tomes, do your job and quit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Or quit doing the MSQ roulettes and do something else.

[galacticcorgi]

Nito a écrit :

galacticcorgi a écrit :

Then new players will never get it done. You know what you're signing the ♥♥♥♥ up for when you enter that roulette.

The Npcs can literally win that fight by themselves well except the final boss with the lb that is a wipe and you literally need to press 3 buttons and walk

Just don't do it. Seriously. No one is forcing you. You're whining that the game incentivizes you to help new players.

PVP exists and gives out good EXP, for example.

[Nito]

Giganx a écrit :

So, the roulettes rewards are worth the time you're spending and you'll continue running them? Fantastic and working exactly as intended.

Again, MSQ content you already did 10 years ago isn't there for you. You're simply being paid to keep it active for new players; so take your EXP/Tomes, do your job and quit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Or quit doing the MSQ roulettes and do something else.

Were until SB then the levelling gets slower and i dont need so much so i just ignore now
Yet normal DG roulettes can drop on a lvl 16 dg and i have no problem with it because i am not watching the same unskippable cutscene for the 300 time

[Nito]

galacticcorgi a écrit :

Just don't do it. Seriously. No one is forcing you. You're whining that the game incentivizes you to help new players.

PVP exists and gives out good EXP, for example.

And i am not doing it anymore and i started this year. Again the bots exist to help them they can clear it you can even afk it.

PVP is mostly to show how skills should actually work.

[FlyingTorcensoredWhale]

Easy solution. Check if anyone is doing the dungeon for the first time.
If yes - no skip, fair is fair.
If no - allow skipping. Because when out of 4 party members not one is even a sprout, what's the argument?