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[rocketgreentea]

Ban the use of all plugins as they grant unfair advantages.

[Colopatiron]

Publicado originalmente por rocketgreentea:

Publicado originalmente por Colopatiron:

Will never happened but keep dreaming.

I don’t have to dream… just wait until Dawntrail…

No anticheat will be put in this game, ever.

[Tzenka]

People who can't play the game when mods don't work because of an lame though.

[Raansu]

Publicado originalmente por Yürei:

Publicado originalmente por Raansu:

All of the safe plugins are on github. If you're getting malware, you're getting shady mods.

I believe they are refering to the Gshade incident.

Gshade was a closed source reshade fork. Honestly, no one should have been using that to begin with considering it was never open source.

[Raansu]

Publicado originalmente por rocketgreentea:

Publicado originalmente por Colopatiron:

Will never happened but keep dreaming.

I don’t have to dream… just wait until Dawntrail…

Addons break for about 2 weeks. That happens every expansion.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Publicado originalmente por Yes:

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

Nice of you to spat out a random unverified statistic out of your ass lmao.

I mean, Let's do some math then, During shadowbringers the playersubs increased by a roughly 20 mill, ( this is googled) ffxiv has an active playerbase of around 500k. Let's say (now im guessing a little) 425000 of those 500k praised shb, thats 85%. From my own pov i only met extreme negative toxicity if you didnt praise shb (Yes i know this is anecdotal) Now i don't think that the 85% we came to earlier is only toxic people so with some general thinking (taking the internets response in to account as well) you could probably land around a 60 - 75% in where people would react with some form of toxicity in this example.

No longer a random number.

It absolutely remains a random number. I have been playing since 2014. Started on the PS3, migrated to PS4, then Steam, then got the latest expansion on PS4 because my pc died, then back to PC and i got the free PS5 upgrade and because i could, i got the free starter perk from gamepass.

I can count on one hand the amount of toxicity I have encountered throughout these 10 years of constant play.
So, where is that 60% number of toxic players at? Why have I not encountered much toxicity if there are so many toxic players?

You have your own experience and sure enough, they are valid. But my dude, you have not met 60% of the player base to be able to make such a statement.

[Yes]

From what we can gather from 4 different threads with causality, They most likely downloaded some niche lalafell loli kink mod since the most depraved ones usually comes from shady sites and paid for some autobotting triple legends bot and got scammed and malware and therefore hates everything modrelated. Thats the most logical conclusion to this madness.

[Yes]

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

Publicado originalmente por Yes:

I mean, Let's do some math then, During shadowbringers the playersubs increased by a roughly 20 mill, ( this is googled) ffxiv has an active playerbase of around 500k. Let's say (now im guessing a little) 425000 of those 500k praised shb, thats 85%. From my own pov i only met extreme negative toxicity if you didnt praise shb (Yes i know this is anecdotal) Now i don't think that the 85% we came to earlier is only toxic people so with some general thinking (taking the internets response in to account as well) you could probably land around a 60 - 75% in where people would react with some form of toxicity in this example.

No longer a random number.

It absolutely remains a random number. I have been playing since 2014. Started on the PS3, migrated to PS4, then Steam, then got the latest expansion on PS4 because my pc died, then back to PC and i got the free PS5 upgrade and because i could, i got the free starter perk from gamepass.

I can count on one hand the amount of toxicity I have encountered throughout these 10 years of constant play.
So, where is that 60% number of toxic players at? Why have I not encountered much toxicity if there are so many toxic players?

You have your own experience and sure enough, they are valid. But my dude, you have not met 60% of the player base to be able to make such a statement.

It was a general statement backed up by math and your experience is valid as well, You have not met the same kind of toxicity i've had and seen, Maybe our likes and dislikes aligns differently? We run in different circles, Different gameplay? There is plenty of reasons as to why but my dude. To say that ffxiv is not extremly toxic you surely can't agree to. I've seen more gatekeeping in this game than in most mmos.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Publicado originalmente por Yes:

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

It absolutely remains a random number. I have been playing since 2014. Started on the PS3, migrated to PS4, then Steam, then got the latest expansion on PS4 because my pc died, then back to PC and i got the free PS5 upgrade and because i could, i got the free starter perk from gamepass.

I can count on one hand the amount of toxicity I have encountered throughout these 10 years of constant play.
So, where is that 60% number of toxic players at? Why have I not encountered much toxicity if there are so many toxic players?

You have your own experience and sure enough, they are valid. But my dude, you have not met 60% of the player base to be able to make such a statement.

It was a general statement backed up by math and your experience is valid as well, You have not met the same kind of toxicity i've had and seen, Maybe our likes and dislikes aligns differently? We run in different circles, Different gameplay? There is plenty of reasons as to why but my dude. To say that ffxiv is not extremly toxic you surely can't agree to. I've seen more gatekeeping in this game than in most mmos.

I absolutely disagree. 100%. There is no 'our likes and dislikes'. Toxicity is pretty clear cut. It's not about what you or I like or dislike. Someone who is flat out being toxic is going to be told so by everyone period.
I love to talk in party chat and spam emotes to make runs more fun. Some people dislike that, am I toxic for trying to make the run more fun? Certainly not. This is but one example of how bad your argument is.

I have been part of countless FCs over the years, interacted with countless random people both on the overworld/cities and in party finders. The amount of toxicity I have found was nearly none. If you have such an enormous amount of toxicity sent your way, ever thought that YOU might be the issue and not '60%' of the player base? Never occured to you that you might do or say things that doesn't fly well with people, like idk, acting like most of the community were douches? That certainly counts as one thing that would put you into a situation where you get told off.

And as for your last statement.. That made me laugh. I spent 10 years in XIV, barely interacted with toxic people. I was offered help constantly when I first started out. Made a ton of friends, most duties I go into people are understanding of either being new to content or being rusty. I play DPS, Tank and Healer and even though I am a barely average healer, I never had anyone do nothing else but give friendly advices and try to elevate my gameplay.
I spent 3 hours in WoW and for daring to ask where the marketplace was as a new player, I got harassed and insulted for 45 minutes with people following me everywhere to nag me.
I got people with zero care about someone just trying to run a dungeon and enjoy the content they paid for, i got insulted for not magically knowing where to go in the massive overworld that has barely any proper indicators of where to go.

Sure, there ARE rotten apples. Like with everything else. But XIV is by far the most welcoming community I have ever seen. There might be issues with the hardcore raiding scene., but that applies to absolutely every game that has some form of hardcore content, so that hardly matters.

[Yes]

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

Publicado originalmente por Yes:

It was a general statement backed up by math and your experience is valid as well, You have not met the same kind of toxicity i've had and seen, Maybe our likes and dislikes aligns differently? We run in different circles, Different gameplay? There is plenty of reasons as to why but my dude. To say that ffxiv is not extremly toxic you surely can't agree to. I've seen more gatekeeping in this game than in most mmos.

I absolutely disagree. 100%. There is no 'our likes and dislikes'. Toxicity is pretty clear cut. It's not about what you or I like or dislike. Someone who is flat out being toxic is going to be told so by everyone period.
I love to talk in party chat and spam emotes to make runs more fun. Some people dislike that, am I toxic for trying to make the run more fun? Certainly not. This is but one example of how bad your argument is.

I have been part of countless FCs over the years, interacted with countless random people both on the overworld/cities and in party finders. The amount of toxicity I have found was nearly none. If you have such an enormous amount of toxicity sent your way, ever thought that YOU might be the issue and not '60%' of the player base? Never occured to you that you might do or say things that doesn't fly well with people, like idk, acting like most of the community were douches? That certainly counts as one thing that would put you into a situation where you get told off.

And as for your last statement.. That made me laugh. I spent 10 years in XIV, barely interacted with toxic people. I was offered help constantly when I first started out. Made a ton of friends, most duties I go into people are understanding of either being new to content or being rusty. I play DPS, Tank and Healer and even though I am a barely average healer, I never had anyone do nothing else but give friendly advices and try to elevate my gameplay.
I spent 3 hours in WoW and for daring to ask where the marketplace was as a new player, I got harassed and insulted for 45 minutes with people following me everywhere to nag me.
I got people with zero care about someone just trying to run a dungeon and enjoy the content they paid for, i got insulted for not magically knowing where to go in the massive overworld that has barely any proper indicators of where to go.

Sure, there ARE rotten apples. Like with everything else. But XIV is by far the most welcoming community I have ever seen. There might be issues with the hardcore raiding scene., but that applies to absolutely every game that has some form of hardcore content, so that hardly matters.

God that sounds terrible with all the spamming but personal likes cast aside. It sounds like our experiences gamewise are reversed. With that same arguments, I never saw much toxicity in Wow from my 15 years in it more than the occasional rager. But im glad that i made you laugh atleast, Now lets pray for a good expansion for dawntrail since its been a few good years since we had a good one in here.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Publicado originalmente por Yes:

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

I absolutely disagree. 100%. There is no 'our likes and dislikes'. Toxicity is pretty clear cut. It's not about what you or I like or dislike. Someone who is flat out being toxic is going to be told so by everyone period.
I love to talk in party chat and spam emotes to make runs more fun. Some people dislike that, am I toxic for trying to make the run more fun? Certainly not. This is but one example of how bad your argument is.

I have been part of countless FCs over the years, interacted with countless random people both on the overworld/cities and in party finders. The amount of toxicity I have found was nearly none. If you have such an enormous amount of toxicity sent your way, ever thought that YOU might be the issue and not '60%' of the player base? Never occured to you that you might do or say things that doesn't fly well with people, like idk, acting like most of the community were douches? That certainly counts as one thing that would put you into a situation where you get told off.

And as for your last statement.. That made me laugh. I spent 10 years in XIV, barely interacted with toxic people. I was offered help constantly when I first started out. Made a ton of friends, most duties I go into people are understanding of either being new to content or being rusty. I play DPS, Tank and Healer and even though I am a barely average healer, I never had anyone do nothing else but give friendly advices and try to elevate my gameplay.
I spent 3 hours in WoW and for daring to ask where the marketplace was as a new player, I got harassed and insulted for 45 minutes with people following me everywhere to nag me.
I got people with zero care about someone just trying to run a dungeon and enjoy the content they paid for, i got insulted for not magically knowing where to go in the massive overworld that has barely any proper indicators of where to go.

Sure, there ARE rotten apples. Like with everything else. But XIV is by far the most welcoming community I have ever seen. There might be issues with the hardcore raiding scene., but that applies to absolutely every game that has some form of hardcore content, so that hardly matters.

God that sounds terrible with all the spamming but personal likes cast aside. It sounds like our experiences gamewise are reversed. With that same arguments, I never saw much toxicity in Wow from my 15 years in it more than the occasional rager. But im glad that i made you laugh atleast, Now lets pray for a good expansion for dawntrail since its been a few good years since we had a good one in here.

My man, it's a social game. If you join a group and you stay silent, say nothing, or end up being rude with people trying to socialize, then you're the issue. Not the person who is trying to be social.

[Yes]

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

Publicado originalmente por Yes:

God that sounds terrible with all the spamming but personal likes cast aside. It sounds like our experiences gamewise are reversed. With that same arguments, I never saw much toxicity in Wow from my 15 years in it more than the occasional rager. But im glad that i made you laugh atleast, Now lets pray for a good expansion for dawntrail since its been a few good years since we had a good one in here.

My man, it's a social game. If you join a group and you stay silent, say nothing, or end up being rude with people trying to socialize, then you're the issue. Not the person who is trying to be social.

There is a difference between being social and spamming like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And keep your forced social needs to yourself, Thats toxic behaviour trying to force your needs on someone else.

[Stormy Dawn]

Spamming emotes certainly can be a form of toxicity. Obviously we can't know in this particular example, but it's certainly plausible. Like those people who keep spamming their stupid Moogle ASCII emotes and crap. Sure they are often times jovial, but it can easily be annoying, too.

Hell, toxic positivity actually annoys me the most. The people who drop in an instance and immediately regurgitate a wall of text with all the mechanics in a fight, start passive-aggressively telling people what to do and not do, annoying levels of positivity spamming in chat, etc.. Ugh. I just wanna watch those people wipe. <.<;;

[The Ultimate Despair]

Publicado originalmente por Yes:

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

My man, it's a social game. If you join a group and you stay silent, say nothing, or end up being rude with people trying to socialize, then you're the issue. Not the person who is trying to be social.

There is a difference between being social and spamming like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And keep your forced social needs to yourself, Thats toxic behaviour trying to force your needs on someone else.

AH yes, 'toxic'. Someone who craves social interactions in a social environment is toxic. Sounds to me like MMOs aren't for you.
And at this point, we can play the reverse. DO not force your lack of need for social interactions on people. Stay silent when someone is being social and don't interact with them. As simple as that.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Publicado originalmente por Tsurayu:

Spamming emotes certainly can be a form of toxicity. Obviously we can't know in this particular example, but it's certainly plausible. Like those people who keep spamming their stupid Moogle ASCII emotes and crap. Sure they are often times jovial, but it can easily be annoying, too.

Hell, toxic positivity actually annoys me the most. The people who drop in an instance and immediately regurgitate a wall of text with all the mechanics in a fight, start passive-aggressively telling people what to do and not do, annoying levels of positivity spamming in chat, etc.. Ugh. I just wanna watch those people wipe. <.<;;

The thing is that if positivity annoys you, then idk what to tell you really.
If you're annoyed that people are in a good mood and joyful, then YOU are de facto the toxic one.

And when I say 'spamming emote' I mean DOING emotes with my character. If this annoys you, then sorry to tell you that you don't belong in a darn social game.

[Stormy Dawn]

Publicado originalmente por RyuzakiMorgoth:

Publicado originalmente por Tsurayu:

Spamming emotes certainly can be a form of toxicity. Obviously we can't know in this particular example, but it's certainly plausible. Like those people who keep spamming their stupid Moogle ASCII emotes and crap. Sure they are often times jovial, but it can easily be annoying, too.

Hell, toxic positivity actually annoys me the most. The people who drop in an instance and immediately regurgitate a wall of text with all the mechanics in a fight, start passive-aggressively telling people what to do and not do, annoying levels of positivity spamming in chat, etc.. Ugh. I just wanna watch those people wipe. <.<;;

The thing is that if positivity annoys you, then idk what to tell you really.
If you're annoyed that people are in a good mood and joyful, then YOU are de facto the toxic one.

And when I say 'spamming emote' I mean DOING emotes with my character. If this annoys you, then sorry to tell you that you don't belong in a darn social game.

It isn't black and white like that. Both sides of the spectrum, and people in between, have their share of toxicity.

And, right, that kind of emote. Duh. I'm dumb. I didn't even think of that kind. To be fair, those can be annoying, too, but really only the one where it sounds/looks like the catgirl is moaning while kneeling in front of someone. <.<;;