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About Scholar in the job action trailer...
What the F*ck? Forced glam of angel wings and a white dress? Scholar is literally just alt white mage now?

Am I missing something or is this super out of left field and kinda sh*tty?

Edit: Also is seems none of Scholars flaw have been addressed in any way, same kit with two or three new flashy buttons, SE really hates us scholar mains...
Last edited by Nihil sub sole novum; May 24, 2024 @ 2:38am
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causality May 24, 2024 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by Nihil sub sole novum:
SE really hates us scholar mains...
It took people years to figure that out which is the funniest part. :cuphead:
Ultimate Pheer May 24, 2024 @ 4:09am 
At this point the only healer that doesn't lean on angelic theming is Astrologian. Which can't decide if it wants to be a time mage or not.

If anything Scholar should be the dark and edgy healer, it's literally a battlefield tactician. Sun Tzu up in here!
Taran Tatsuuchi May 24, 2024 @ 6:45am 
Scholars should have reached out to their most beautiful of branches...
Giganx (Banned) May 24, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Healing has always been heavily associated with Angelic themes. Also, as a SCH you're running around with a fairy side-kick; so it's not really an aesthetic stretch to throw on some angel wings and a white dress.
Kiana May 24, 2024 @ 10:08am 
I do understand the frustration with the forced aesthetic shift, even if I'm not personally mad about it. Reaper had the edgelord mode as part of its identity on its release, where as Scholar is getting it grafted on so late in life...

I mean I dig Seraph, because "SCH is healer summoner" is fine by me. But WHM has had the light-aspected angelic-magical-girl vibe for years at this point. Kinda hope they reneg on the costume switch (such as having a toggle that turns off the visual, but... [gestures at egi-glamour].)

Summoner's the only job I am firmly disappointed by. We could've had Shiva. Or Fenrir. Or Alexander. (Or Bahamut-> Leviathan, Ramuh & Shiva/Fenrir -> Phoenix -> standard trio, to have a full set.) Instead, we get digimon!Bahamut, which isn't even an upgrade to demi-bahamut, but is instead functionally a nerf to Phoenix, because now you only get 1 phoenix per 4 minutes, instead of 2.

Originally posted by Ultimate Pheer:
If anything Scholar should be the dark and edgy healer, it's literally a battlefield tactician. Sun Tzu up in here!
Fire-aspected Art of War upgrade when?
Stormy Dawn May 24, 2024 @ 11:30am 
I agree the actual aesthetic is a bit weird. The weird angel wings that -at least as far as the little clip we've seen thus far - has less animation than the freakin' fashion accessory wings, is a bit off putting and pretty low-tier quality.

But the idea of it I'm fine with. I don't understand the people complaining that it doesn't fit Scholar's aesthetic. Yes, Scholar's are tacticians, but apparently we've all forgotten that Lily exists? There is room for both tactician/militant themes as well as natural/Fae inspired themes - both are equally important to the identity of Scholar.
Kiana May 24, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Tsurayu:
I agree the actual aesthetic is a bit weird. The weird angel wings that -at least as far as the little clip we've seen thus far - has less animation than the freakin' fashion accessory wings, is a bit off putting and pretty low-tier quality.

But the idea of it I'm fine with. I don't understand the people complaining that it doesn't fit Scholar's aesthetic. Yes, Scholar's are tacticians, but apparently we've all forgotten that Lily exists? There is room for both tactician/militant themes as well as natural/Fae inspired themes - both are equally important to the identity of Scholar.
I've seen quite a number of people saying they'd have been fine if it had been fairy wings. Lot of them wanted it to be Feo Ul-themed. (Usually followed by a chorus of people wanting Feo Ul as fairy glam.)

Obviously I can't speak to everyone's thoughts, but general chatter I've seen suggests the primary annoyance is at the robe (people can get very attached to their glam, after all), not the wings.

With "we already have WHM for that aesthetic" in a close second. In a similar vein to why the majority of healer gear consists of white robes.
Hobo Misanthropus May 24, 2024 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by Ultimate Pheer:
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If anything Scholar should be the dark and edgy healer, it's literally a battlefield tactician. Sun Tzu up in here!

Art of War is a gain on 1.
Topper mcnabb May 24, 2024 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by Nihil sub sole novum:
What the F*ck? Forced glam of angel wings and a white dress? Scholar is literally just alt white mage now?

Am I missing something or is this super out of left field and kinda sh*tty?

Edit: Also is seems none of Scholars flaw have been addressed in any way, same kit with two or three new flashy buttons, SE really hates us scholar mains...

You should've noticed that they are making SCH a WHM with a pet the day they removed Leeches in favor of Esuna.

I deeply dislike this angel cosplay too as SCH were supposed to be the Nym Marines military force, not some discount bin WHM fairy larper.
MOSLEY May 24, 2024 @ 8:09pm 
Originally posted by Giganx:
Healing has always been heavily associated with Angelic themes. Also, as a SCH you're running around with a fairy side-kick; so it's not really an aesthetic stretch to throw on some angel wings and a white dress.

Historically, SCH has always been more focused around black magic than white magic. It's supposed to be more like a healing BLM than a WHM. In XIV specifically, it's obviously more closely tied to SMN. The angelic theme doesn't fit.
Last edited by MOSLEY; May 24, 2024 @ 8:12pm
causality May 24, 2024 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
Originally posted by Ultimate Pheer:
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If anything Scholar should be the dark and edgy healer, it's literally a battlefield tactician. Sun Tzu up in here!

Art of War is a gain on 1.
You can use Art of War because of the potency per GCD advantages in certain environments.
I use Art of War because it looks cool on my max size Roe in a pink dress.

We are not the same. :lunar2019coolpig:
hagare May 24, 2024 @ 9:56pm 
angel wings! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
After spending an unhealthy amount of time mulling over both Scholar and the overall game and rewriting this comment at least ten times I've come to a conclusion:

I want to preface this by saying I'm a Scholar main, I've been a Scholar main since day one and while I play other classes Scholar is MY class. I play it mostly out of spite at this point and a longing for the "Good old days", but I'm out of spite and out of hope.

Thus I ask this of SE, Just remove Scholar, You've already taken every single interesting thing out of out kit, Murdered our Fairies, And stripped us of our theme twice over, Just end our suffering, Remove Scholar and finally just say those those few of us who remain: "there is no place for you anymore"
Originally posted by Seraphita:
Scholar is the class that doesn't know what it wants to be. Normally, I'd say this of the astrologian but it's at least going somewhere. Scholar is the class I personally hate most for being a confusing mess but I also respect scholar mains for playing the job well.

SE will not remove it. They'll keep toying with it until they find something that works but imo, it's a job I'm happy to forget the existence of. The fairy is cute. I wish I could play with a fairy job but I tried and it's not for me. Thankfully, I have 3 other healers for myself...

Still, yeah. I feel your pain somewhat. I wish Scholar was a decent job for you all.
The worst part is the it COULD be a good class if they'd give it a bit of love, Give me thirty minutes with the job design team and all four of it's major flaws could be fixed without having to remake it from scratch. But SE clearly just doesn't care and won't do anything but tack on more useless garbage and raise the potency so it seems OK on paper, Hence my wish for them to just let it die in peace instead of being wheeled around on life support.
Kiana May 25, 2024 @ 4:21am 
Speaking as a sage main: Recitation deploy adlo alone makes Scholar great. SCH is mechanically effective (though things like Seraph being unable to tether could use adjusting). It's the theme that it struggles with.

For all the memeing on "scholar just gets a speed buff" in EW, it's still the better raid job.
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