Toxic mentor.

[Wombat]

So I'm fairly new to the game, Trying to learn tanking, leveling my alt job paladin to level 50, I was in a leveling roulette. There was 2 mentors.

Immediately as the dungeon started, one of the mentors, a healer (the toxic one), sprinted in front of me, pressuring me to rush and pull every mob, No surprise, I kept dying trying to keep up.
The mentor then proceeded to talk ♥♥♥♥ to me, when I tried to go in my own pace, they made fun of me telling me "Its okay, take your time, we have all 2024". keep in mind it only took us 15 minutes to beat the dungeon.

The second mentor in the lobby (DPS), who was a lot more helpful to me, actually told me what was wrong, one of the reasons was I was using the recommended gear button, which turns out is really bad for tanking, it tends to give you gear more suited for DPS, which would explain why I kept dying from pulls.

So thank you to the DPS actually being helpful to me and you actually deserve that crown.

If your'e just gonna talk ♥♥♥♥ to newer players, do the community a favor and don't be a mentor. If your goal is to make newer players quit the game, then its working. Honestly was planning to play lots this month but I lost interest.

[causality]

引用自 Infinite Pudding：

引用自 KaosReigns：

As sad as this is to say, most Mentors are actually this way. Want proof? Goto the Novice Network. That place is filled to the brim with leetists and bad mentors.

So a good rule that I go by is "If they are part of the NN, avoid them". Only deal with Mentors that dont participate in the NN. It will take a bit longer to find one, but I can promise you will be better off.

I quit the NN at like level 10 or something low, because of a really stupid argument about Blitzball...

Anyone that cares. All I did was say "Blitzball wouldnt really fit the style of FFXIV" and the chat went absolutely ballistic... It was quite impressive how angry they got from one innocent comment.

I've had fairly good experiences on the NN myself. Maybe it depends on what world you play in. But yeah, I agree, to get angry over that blitzball comment is a bit silly. I also agree that Blitzball doesn't fit the XIV style at all. Considering it's a high tech sport. Maybe they play it over in the empire where they have all the fancy magitech though.

I mean we built a space ship to go to a far corner of the universe. Blitzball doesn't seem high tech at all in comparison.

[Kuja Feralus]

The most ironic part about the mentor system is that combat mentors are useless and only get their mentor status to do Mentor roulette and get the rewards Mentors get from doing stuff.

Crafting mentors I've encountered actually stop to explain dungeon mechanics and boss info that proves useful.

It's actually quite sad that the mentor system isn't indicative of a person's willingness to help new and less experienced players, and rather is just a sign someone is chasing rewards.

[Zekiel - Ven Blayd]

Hopefully, you reported them.

It takes a minute, have to include the name, time, date, etc. But, I got a mentor banned in my first week back in the game for flipping out on me over not knowing an AOE mechanic. The Dev team takes things like that VERY seriously and acts 24/7 to protect the community.

Any Toxic run in, report them. Helps keep the community clean. This isn't WoW or some other trash MMO where the team is lazy and doesn't do their jobs. FF14 staff Actively earns the money they receive.

[Kuja Feralus]

引用自 AKross VenBlayd：

Hopefully, you reported them.

It takes a minute, have to include the name, time, date, etc. But, I got a mentor banned in my first week back in the game for flipping out on me over not knowing an AOE mechanic. The Dev team takes things like that VERY seriously and acts 24/7 to protect the community.

Any Toxic run in, report them. Helps keep the community clean. This isn't WoW or some other trash MMO where the team is lazy and doesn't do their jobs. FF14 staff Actively earns the money they receive.

Yeah, at the very least the FF14 team will revoke their access to being a Mentor and all the rewards that such status entails.

Being polite and courteous isn't hard for most people, but any particularly toxic individual should get what they've got coming anyway.

[causality]

引用自 Kuja Feralus：

It's actually quite sad that the mentor system isn't indicative of a person's willingness to help new and less experienced players, and rather is just a sign someone is chasing rewards.

How can you mentor someone if no one asks questions ingame?

[Kuja Feralus]

引用自 causality：

引用自 Kuja Feralus：

It's actually quite sad that the mentor system isn't indicative of a person's willingness to help new and less experienced players, and rather is just a sign someone is chasing rewards.

How can you mentor someone if no one asks questions ingame? :lunar2019piginablanket:

Mentors are allowed to ask questions of sprouts, too.

"Is this your first time doing this content?", "Any questions about your role/class/skills?"

You're allowed to initiate the conversations and offer advice proactively rather than reactively.

[Hit by a Parked Car]

引用自 Leown：

Cause 3000 dungeons is nothing when you can kill an extreme trial boss in 3s-10s as a level 90 summoner. It is Brain dead but its how some people get it cause they want the "Fancy crown"

What that's cringe

[Alternity]

引用自 Lana_Ray：

引用自 galacticcorgi：

It's easy to get both healers killed depending on the Alexander raid they were in just from unfortunate placement of AoEs.

LB is very different from your skills. Those AUTOMATICALLY appear on the hotbar, and you'd have to rearrange them to use them well. And frankly, by Alexander, you have been playing over 50 hours. That isn't NEW anymore.

For the record I already said which raid it was. It's the one where random bombs show up and you need to get inside the robots and move said bombs so they don't blow up and hurt / kill other players the rest can pretty much just focus adds. Alexander you have to do mechanics some raids you can just ignore them and pass fine. If nobody is inside the robots doing exactly what the mechanic asks of them it can go wrong and put a tonne of pressure on the healers. Speaking from experience I've asked people to get inside the robots. Which I stated in a previous comment. This mentality that the fault relies only on 1 player is completely lost on me. I even agreed that I wasn't able to save the group from a wipe but I am not the reason it got to that point to begin with. Last thing I'm going to say on this.

I've read your conversation and I gotta say these people arguing with you in this thread and the people who were offended that you didn't know or didn't have the reflex to res people as a summoner in low level content are usually the minority. I'm sure that it was not all 7 of them that piled on you during this raid but rather a few loud minority, I've seen it happen sometimes, but it kinda rare. I do mentor roulettes on a regular basis because I do want that mount but I do it as intended; I stay in the content, and try to help people as much as I can. Just a few days ago I stayed in <redacted endwalker dungeon> for 30-45minutes, wiping to the last boss, to help 2 sprouts clear it even though they had trouble with one mechanic that nearly kills you if you fail. Both of us who understood the fight stayed and helped them try to understand it better, rather than calling them names, leaving or kicking them. This is usually the experience I see when such thing happens rather than what you experienced, not to say that it never happens, just saying that it is in fact the minority rather than the majority. Don't let these people bring you down, ignore them and move on, I also suggest you report them if they were THAT annoying, as they will take action against this kind of behavior.

tl;dr: Don't worry about the minority, ignore them, move on, enjoy the game at your own pace. People queuing into random content should be ready for both people who want to rush content and people who struggle with content, no matter how easy or hard the content is, especially if you're queuing into a mentor roulette.

[Miyu]

引用自 Lana_Ray：

For the record I already said which raid it was. It's the one where random bombs show up and you need to get inside the robots and move said bombs so they don't blow up and hurt / kill other players the rest can pretty much just focus adds. Alexander you have to do mechanics some raids you can just ignore them and pass fine. If nobody is inside the robots doing exactly what the mechanic asks of them it can go wrong and put a tonne of pressure on the healers. Speaking from experience I've asked people to get inside the robots. Which I stated in a previous comment. This mentality that the fault relies only on 1 player is completely lost on me. I even agreed that I wasn't able to save the group from a wipe but I am not the reason it got to that point to begin with. Last thing I'm going to say on this.

Ah the one where the raid is just bunch of adds? I mean.. that's preeetty hard to fail. Like I've never seen a wipe there personally.. so yeah, you messed up by not rezzing, but really the blame is also on the group for failing the basic mechanics.

引用自 galacticcorgi：

引用自 Lana_Ray：

For the record I already said which raid it was. It's the one where random bombs show up and you need to get inside the robots and move said bombs so they don't blow up and hurt / kill other players the rest can pretty much just focus adds. Alexander you have to do mechanics some raids you can just ignore them and pass fine. If nobody is inside the robots doing exactly what the mechanic asks of them it can go wrong and put a tonne of pressure on the healers. Speaking from experience I've asked people to get inside the robots. Which I stated in a previous comment. This mentality that the fault relies only on 1 player is completely lost on me. I even agreed that I wasn't able to save the group from a wipe but I am not the reason it got to that point to begin with. Last thing I'm going to say on this.

No one is saying it's solely your fault here, we're just baffled you somehow went 50+ hours and didn't read your own skills AT ALL, apparently. This is beyond poor playing at that point. What DPS were you missing in this raid? What else were you messing up beyond not resing? What skills did you ignore entirely because you apparently didn't check any of your skills and just bounced along like someone with no brain or reading comprehension? THIS is what me and Sunny are upset about. That you went 50+ hours into the game and somehow weren't reading any of your skills to the point you weren't aware you HAD a res. The only way to miss that is to NEVER rearrange your hotbars or check your skills.

Again, you're going into big assumptions here. "Oh they didn't know they can rez, that means they literally don't know anything about any of their abilities. They must be the worst dps and mess up even the basic rotation because they didn't read the skills!"
So let's turn this around. How come they wiped to one of the easiest fights in alexander? How much did the group mess up? Do they even know any of the mechanics of the game? Did the healers heal properly? Do they know their own skills?


Assuming just because someone didn't know about one of their skills that they are immediately the worst player in existence is just wrong. Sure, they messed up, they will learn, end of story.