What do you dislike the most about this game?

[sigina ✝]

While there are numerous aspects to appreciate in FFXIV, it's hard to ignore some significant drawbacks. What aspects of this game do you find most in need of change?

[Giganx]

Originally posted by Metallinatus:

If you read the message you quoted above, I specifically mentioned role playing as kids, something that I saw discussed too many times in this forum, always with that person defending it.

Even if; you realize they're not actually kids, right?

I only ask because I'm genuinely curious what people who fight against the use of lala's for fetish purposes think they're protecting.

[Briggs]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Metallinatus:

If you read the message you quoted above, I specifically mentioned role playing as kids, something that I saw discussed too many times in this forum, always with that person defending it.

Even if; you realize they're not actually kids, right?

I only ask because I'm genuinely curious what people who fight against the use of lala's for fetish purposes think they're protecting.

Sexual fetishes are, almost by definition, weird. And people don't like weird. Harm needn't come into play. Moving away from the subject of Lalas, I find it revolting that a grown adult would get off on wearing, and then, soiling a diaper. But... that person isn't askinig me to change the diaper. I'm not even being told it's happening. No one is being hurt. The problem is, unless you are comfortable with yourself and able to disentangle yourself from the lives of others, you're going to raise up arms against that sort of thing. Unfortunately, some people are afraid that learning of this sort of thing will awaken a kink in themselves, or they feel like they need to act as some kind of morality police. I can't say which is more commonly the case, but I think nearly all cases fall into one of those two categories.

[Sayo]

Yeah the groomers are a big problem.

[The Rizzler]

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Originally posted by Capriciouskitty:

Theirs a lot of pedos that groom people unfortunately

I think that statement is unfair.
There is little, to no evidence of such behavior occurring in FFXIV, besides some people randomly saying it. If it was happening there would be an alert message, as there are for various other things on the Login Prompt. Why you would say that is curious... stirring the pot?

As someone who's from balmung

Pedophiles do exist Three or four months ago I heard about like 2 of them who all hung out in the quicksands

And i'm not talking "Oh they erp with lalafell"

More the send you pictures of baby's on discord kind


They are real, but the most you can do about them in game is just block them

I'm sorry you've probably have a few real pedos on your friends list right now

These last two were transpedos

[Giganx]

Saying they're just pedo's and saying they're grooming people are 2 entirely different things.

Two pedo's who happen to play this game trading pics on discord isn't a FFXIV or FFXIV community issue. If kids are being groomed by pedo's in game that's a FFXIV game and community issue.

Saying this game has a grooming problem is a serious accusation to throw out there without any proof.

[Sayo]

They even came out of the woodworks to defend their actions in this very thread.

[Giganx]

I'd be legitimately surprised if anyone here was defending grooming. Let's see a quote.

[Stormy Dawn]

Originally posted by Metallinatus:

Originally posted by Giganx:

I take it you're one of those guys who has a strong personal investment in the fetishes of strangers.

The healthy thing to do is not care what strangers are into, as long as no real people are being exploited or hurt. Lala's are fair game for anyone that's into that.

My god, another person that fantasizes naked kids.

My God you just keep wanting to go to the extreme. Many lewd Lala players aren't even into lolicon or shotacon, but those who are are free to fantasize all they want. Stop making an illogical leap that lolicons are pedophiles and stop kink shaming. Christ.

[Jon]

Originally posted by Tsurayu:

Originally posted by Metallinatus:

My god, another person that fantasizes naked kids.

My God you just keep wanting to go to the extreme. Many lewd Lala players aren't even into lolicon or shotacon, but those who are are free to fantasize all they want. Stop making an illogical leap that lolicons are pedophiles and stop kink shaming. Christ.

Lolicon and shotacon are attraction to anime children. Lolicon/shotacon arent kinks, they are sickness.

[Giganx]

Originally posted by Chakravartin:

Lolicon and shotacon are attraction to anime children. Lolicon/shotacon arent kinks, they are sickness.

So what, lalafels are kinks but anime is sickness?

It amazes me that people don't realize how arbitrary and nonsensical the lines they draw are.

[Briggs]

Could we all just agree that harming children is bad and that so long as no one is being harmed it's really none of our ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ business, so we can move the ♥♥♥♥ on with complaining about the game?

[Briggs]

I really hate inventory management in this game. I don't see why we can't have something like ESO's crafting bag where it just keeps track of how much you have instead of trying to fit things into slots. I don't care which slot my stuff is in, I just care that I have enough of it.

[Stormy Dawn]

Originally posted by Chakravartin:

Originally posted by Tsurayu:

My God you just keep wanting to go to the extreme. Many lewd Lala players aren't even into lolicon or shotacon, but those who are are free to fantasize all they want. Stop making an illogical leap that lolicons are pedophiles and stop kink shaming. Christ.

Lolicon and shotacon are attraction to anime children. Lolicon/shotacon arent kinks, they are sickness.

Nah. Pretty sure that describes a fetish. Any fetish is "a sickness" to a closeminded individual. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by War Maiden:

I think that statement is unfair.
There is little, to no evidence of such behavior occurring in FFXIV, besides some people randomly saying it. If it was happening there would be an alert message, as there are for various other things on the Login Prompt. Why you would say that is curious... stirring the pot?

Originally posted by The Rizzler:

As someone who's from balmung

Is that supposed to be a slight?
Making a few assumptions based on my server, are we?
Good to know that discrimination is still alive and well, as well as unwarranted assumptions.

Originally posted by The Rizzler:

Pedophiles do exist Three or four months ago I heard about like 2 of them who all hung out in the quicksands

You 'heard' about, huh?
Sounds like people "talking" and rumor-mill stirring the pot.
I'm not saying they do not exist, but not in the droves that people seem to like to claim here, and most people whom play this game are not young children, they know when they are being 'taken advantage' of and will either willingly go along with it, remove themselves from the situation, or just report them.

Originally posted by The Rizzler:

And i'm not talking "Oh they erp with lalafell"

More the send you pictures of baby's on discord kind

They are real, but the most you can do about them in game is just block them

I'm sorry you've probably have a few real pedos on your friends list right now

These last two were transpedos

The devs and GM take these kind of things seriously, and one can be sure if someone feels like they are being used or abused, they report it, they will take it seriously.

[Jon]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Chakravartin:

Lolicon and shotacon are attraction to anime children. Lolicon/shotacon arent kinks, they are sickness.

So what, lalafels are kinks but anime is sickness?

It amazes me that people don't realize how arbitrary and nonsensical the lines they draw are.

Lalafels look like children. Sexualising lalafels is not normal human behaviour.