At what level does the combat become fun?

[Burba]

So I just started this game with a friend and the first 10 levels were bad. One of us is an archer the other is a lancer were those bad classes to start with? We are going to take a break and come back to this later but give us some hope guys. What level are we looking forward to? When does the combat take off?

Keep in mind we have played a few tab target mmorpgs before and we liked those games just fine.

[Under there]

like level 70 tbh

[Judeo-communism]

For most people, not until they start doing current relative content. If you're more casual, usually around 60-70 is when jobs get a few more buttons. They remove a lot of buttons from 1-89 so there isn't button bloat at max level, which means you'll have even fewer buttons 1-99 next expansion.

[Artos]

I went as lancer that later evolves to dragoon, through all of my MSQ. I would say by 50 its where you get relatively fun experience. Jump in Jump out. 2 different types of combo. Some small AOE.
Make sure to do job quests. They are different to MSQ, but they unlock new skills, alter/update others. Ishard will be fun for you. I got really immersed with the world as dragoon there.

Don't give up tho. ARR ( A Realm Reborn) despite their changes to improve it. Is still relatively exhausting experience. The game really becomes better at Heavensward both from Story and Mechanic point of view.

However if you look for combat as in PVP in Endgame. Its not where the game shines. PVE is where the game shines.

[𝓛𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮]

for me personally was fun since level 1, but overall, after level 50 or so you get a multitude of skills to enjoy the combat with

[DDRMANIAC007]

Various jobs get their core at different levels but summoner from arcanist really stands out as having their entire core by level 50. There are a few other jobs that get their core by 50 like Samurai.

[Dadoosan]

Somewhere between 100 and 150 hours

[Integrity]

It was fun at level 1. I never felt the combat was bad or anything. But the rotations becomes more complete around level 70 if that was what felt missing to you.

[Burba]

Originally posted by Integrity:

It was fun at level 1. I never felt the combat was bad or anything. But the rotations becomes more complete around level 70 if that was what felt missing to you.

It feels bad to hit a button and then have nothing to do. I am comparing this to WoW and SWTOR combat. This just feels slower for sure and maybe a little floaty and unresponsive I am not sure. Just feels off. However I have seen some of the combat from FF14's endgame and some of that looks very fun. So I am sure it gets better I am only level 12 or so.

[Artos]

Originally posted by Burba:

It feels bad to hit a button and then have nothing to do. I am comparing this to WoW and SWTOR combat. This just feels slower for sure and maybe a little floaty and unresponsive I am not sure. Just feels off.

Haven't played Swtor in years. However wow is something I did. I do agree with you. Combat in FF14 at the start is slow. WoW is much faster to introduce skills and auto attack there actually does decent damage and works in-between skills in some cases. Maybe thats why it feels so slow, because FF14 focuses on skill damage, rather than damage delt by auto attack. Since we get skills slower, the combat also feels slower.
Tho it feels really rewarding when you finally get enough of them and kinda feel the growth of your character. Remember that you don't have to stay with your class for ever. Anytime you can change it and start leveling something else if you truly think its too exhausting for you.

[Integrity]

Originally posted by Burba:

Originally posted by Integrity:

It was fun at level 1. I never felt the combat was bad or anything. But the rotations becomes more complete around level 70 if that was what felt missing to you.

It feels bad to hit a button and then have nothing to do. I am comparing this to WoW and SWTOR combat. This just feels slower for sure and maybe a little floaty and unresponsive I am not sure. Just feels off. However I have seen some of the combat from FF14's endgame and some of that looks very fun. So I am sure it gets better I am only level 12 or so.

Yeah at level 12 you have just a few skills unlocked. So it will feel pretty slow. Once you hit level 70 or so you have a lot more skills unlocked. You'll be weaving abilities in between your main combos more similar to the level 90 rotations. It will feel a lot more active then.

[Eddvohnvex]

Your lvl 10. Playing a life sim mmorpg. The best mmorpg EVER, and you just chalked up combat in the first 10 levels. May I interest you in some garbage? Black desert online has the "awesome pvp and combat."

[Sunny]

The reason it feels slow and weird compared to other tab target games is due to the global cooldown (GCD) being longer in this game than in the others by a fair amount.

Later on, you'll get spells that aren't on the GCD and it will be more like what you're used to. When you get those spells varies between classes, tho.

It will always feel a little floaty.

[Rexosaurus V]

The game's combat system is built around 10 minute fights in terms of intricate combo rotations and cooldown use. You will never get the full picture killing "overworld" monsters that die in a few seconds unfortunately. It's a VERY slow burn in the beginning...

[Gnasty Gnorc]

you're complaining about the game not being fun when you've spent a whopping 15 minutes in it? lol

[Burba]

Originally posted by Havik:

you're complaining about the game not being fun when you've spent a whopping 15 minutes in it? lol

That took my friend and I three or four hours. There were complications of course but I have no idea how we could have done that in 15 minutes. I am happy to admit we did not try to level as fast as we could have though.