Frontlines need a revamp.

[Hex]

It's fine if you just one for the daily for xp and don't really care, but trying to grind the achievement mount is beyond ridiculous.

Some maps heavily favor certain corners. The objectives are complete rng bs. About half the people there are just there for the daily and do nothing of value, just run around in circles so whichever side gets most people there to play the actual game mode wins.

There is absolutely nothing fun about it. Furthermore, the maps and objectives are designed for the old PvP system and the new one that came with CC completely breaks the flow of the games as one side with actual players instead of afkers will just steamroll over your entire team in 2 seconds.

It's a nice amusing diversion if you don't care about the outcome of the match, but if you do? It's *THE* worst experience in the entire game. It needs a serious overhaul.

[Integrity]

I only care about exp for leveling alt jobs so I’m fine with everything the way it is currently.

[Hex]

引用自 Integrity：

I only care about exp for leveling alt jobs so I’m fine with everything the way it is currently.

I've done 10 frontlines today and won exactly 0. Do you think that's fun?

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

引用自 Hex：

It's fine if you just one for the daily for xp and don't really care, but trying to grind the achievement mount is beyond ridiculous.

Some maps heavily favor certain corners. The objectives are complete rng bs. About half the people there are just there for the daily and do nothing of value, just run around in circles so whichever side gets most people there to play the actual game mode wins.

There is absolutely nothing fun about it. Furthermore, the maps and objectives are designed for the old PvP system and the new one that came with CC completely breaks the flow of the games as one side with actual players instead of afkers will just steamroll over your entire team in 2 seconds.

It's a nice amusing diversion if you don't care about the outcome of the match, but if you do? It's *THE* worst experience in the entire game. It needs a serious overhaul.

Well yeah.. if actually cares about winning, it's such random dice roll everytime. I stopped a while after did first ones over a year ago. Because you know it's just a zerg fest that you cannot carry and "hive mind" zergs move like waves of ocean, often on all the wrong places, sometimes lucky and get people who understand priorities. And then the rng spawns of owo-towers and whatnot that sometimes majority go on same corner that is infuriating lol.

Thus, me and my friend that i play the most, i usually ask her once a day exactly like this: "Wanna do daily suffering?" and by suffering i mean Frontline for the daily exp, and she always knows what i mean by it. :D

We both enjoy CC matches tho, and the rare (here on Light) Rival Wings. Wish that could duo queue on CC for co-op fun on same team, since Frontlines are just zergfest rng Minigame Of Pure Mental Suffering(tm).

[Integrity]

引用自 Hex：

引用自 Integrity：

I only care about exp for leveling alt jobs so I’m fine with everything the way it is currently.

I've done 10 frontlines today and won exactly 0. Do you think that's fun?

So is someone forcing you to do 10 frontlines in a day? I just do my daily and be done for the day, win lose or draw, but that's just me. If you are willingly queueing for 10 frontlines, then I hope you are having fun lol!

[Hex]

引用自 Integrity：

引用自 Hex：

I've done 10 frontlines today and won exactly 0. Do you think that's fun?

So is someone forcing you to do 10 frontlines in a day? I just do my daily and be done for the day, win lose or draw, but that's just me. If you are willingly queueing for 10 frontlines, then I hope you are having fun lol!

So in your opinion, a PvP mode should only be fun for those who are not there to play the PvP mode. It does not matter if you do 1 or 100 FL.

Stunning rationale, truly.

[Integrity]

引用自 Hex：

So in your opinion, a PvP mode should only be fun for those who are not there to play the PvP mode. It does not matter if you do 1 or 100 FL.

Stunning rationale, truly.

I feel like this is common sense but If a game mode is not fun then don't force yourself to play it 10 times a day. I have fun doing my frontline once a day. I don't get your rationale where if you think something is painful, you still do it 10 times a day. This is a video game where we play to have fun. Please explain to us how that makes any sense.

[Aya]

I do exactly 2 frontline queues a day and I have all 3 garo mounts.

[Hex]

引用自 Aya：

I do exactly 2 frontline queues a day and I have all 3 garo mounts.

No one has said anything about Garo mounts so... congratulations?

[Hex]

引用自 Integrity：

引用自 Hex：

So in your opinion, a PvP mode should only be fun for those who are not there to play the PvP mode. It does not matter if you do 1 or 100 FL.

Stunning rationale, truly.

I feel like this is common sense but If a game mode is not fun then don't force yourself to play it 10 times a day. I have fun doing my frontline once a day. I don't get your rationale where if you think something is painful, you still do it 10 times a day. This is a video game where we play to have fun. Please explain to us how that makes any sense.

I already explained this in the OP, but since you can't be bothered to read you should just move along.

[galacticcorgi]

This isn't a PVP game. Go play one of those.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

引用自 galacticcorgi：

This isn't a PVP game. Go play one of those.

Yeah well, one can dream.. right? :)

Like i mean it would be awesome if the game had both awesome pve/story AND then also most fun (as possible for MMO games) pvp out of all the MMO games. You know, like all in one package sort of perfect game? :)

I love FF14 for it's pve, story, raid and the social content it offers.

But, as one who thinks there always is chance to improve usually, i DO believe the pvp could be even further improved to be better, more popular and more succesful. :)

I do know realities of pvp being a mini game only for FF14, same as Gold Saucer and Island Sanctuary and whatnot compared to the core of FF14 that is a pve game built around a story. Still, knowing that - would just be nice and comfy to get all the needs i hope from games from one product and would not need to login between different games. :P

Think many of us hope games like AoC to come and bring it all, or maybe that Pax Dei (looks promising), both nice pve and pvp in same game. No FF story tho then.. *sigh* Like i want to have it all! You know? Yes, i know i'm inhaling that copium so hard in hopes to one day have such a perfect game. :D

[Aya]

引用自 Hex：

引用自 Aya：

I do exactly 2 frontline queues a day and I have all 3 garo mounts.

No one has said anything about Garo mounts so... congratulations?

引用自 Hex：

It's fine if you just one for the daily for xp and don't really care, but trying to grind the achievement mount is beyond ridiculous.

To quote your original post

[hagare]

引用自 Hex：

引用自 Integrity：

I only care about exp for leveling alt jobs so I’m fine with everything the way it is currently.

I've done 10 frontlines today and won exactly 0. Do you think that's fun?

you and your team just suck

[Hex]

引用自 Aya：

引用自 Hex：

No one has said anything about Garo mounts so... congratulations?

引用自 Hex：

It's fine if you just one for the daily for xp and don't really care, but trying to grind the achievement mount is beyond ridiculous.

To quote your original post

Those are not the "get 100 frontline wins" mounts. Everyone has the Silver, Gold and Black winged horses. Please get a cluebag.

[Hex]

引用自 hagare：

引用自 Hex：

I've done 10 frontlines today and won exactly 0. Do you think that's fun?

you and your team just suck

If I'm doing around 1mil dmg on average, and half the people in the match hover around 100k, what can I personally do, exactly?