Is there a point in having multiple characters if one in particular can become any class in the game and keep their levels which switched around?

[Uncle Jon]

I returned back to this game after many years and I am really enjoying it. I was looking at the games class system which I remembered having to have certain classes to be at a certain level in order to advance to a better one. I just realized that you technically can become what ever class you want to be, like a tank can switch to a healer class if they wanted to. I was curious if because of this, does it make having multiple characters pointless other than someone would like to play as a different race?

[Solaires]

Diablo_Necromancer eredeti hozzászólása:

The Mayor of Murder Town eredeti hozzászólása:

Because Diablo's screenshots are of a housing ward on Dynamis. Which, on top of having a lower population than the other data centers, is only a few months old, meaning fewer rounds of bidding. So what players are there put money down on the good houses first, and in subsequent rounds choose second choices, third choices, and so on.

That's why his screenshots showed so many empty plots. Because those wards aren't old enough for people to have bought everything up yet.

There's that "common sense" you were looking for.

I also won three houses on aether yesterday. I was the only bidder on all three houses. I got Shirogane 21/51 beach houses on two servers and Lavender Bed 17/47. I have empty plots around me with zero bids. So yeah I can show you empty wards on Aether as well. It’s not just Dynamis.

That's not suppose to happen anymore and it's suppose to be 1 house and 1 fc house per account. On the contrary I don't think that FCs need as much housing as it gets.

[Integrity]

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

Diablo_Necromancer eredeti hozzászólása:

I also won three houses on aether yesterday. I was the only bidder on all three houses. I got Shirogane 21/51 beach houses on two servers and Lavender Bed 17/47. I have empty plots around me with zero bids. So yeah I can show you empty wards on Aether as well. It’s not just Dynamis.

That's not suppose to happen anymore and it's suppose to be 1 house and 1 fc house per account.

Per server not per account. If you make an alt on a different world you can acquire a personal house and an fc house. So if you have ten alts on different worlds, you can get 10 personals and 10 fc houses.

[Oberon]

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

Diablo_Necromancer eredeti hozzászólása:

I also won three houses on aether yesterday. I was the only bidder on all three houses. I got Shirogane 21/51 beach houses on two servers and Lavender Bed 17/47. I have empty plots around me with zero bids. So yeah I can show you empty wards on Aether as well. It’s not just Dynamis.

That's not suppose to happen anymore and it's suppose to be 1 house and 1 fc house per account. On the contrary I don't think that FCs need as much housing as it gets.

Yeah it's very suspicious.

[Integrity]

The Mayor of Murder Town eredeti hozzászólása:

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

That's not suppose to happen anymore and it's suppose to be 1 house and 1 fc house per account. On the contrary I don't think that FCs need as much housing as it gets.

Yeah it's very suspicious.

Nothing suspicious at all assuming people have basic comprehension skills. Here is the rule straight from Square Enix on home purchasing requirement:

“You do not have a character on the same service account that purchased and maintains a plot on the same World“

“You may only purchase and maintain one private plot and one free company plot per World per service account.”

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/contentsguide/housing_land/

Notice the phrase “same World” I mean it can’t be any more obvious right? There’s literally no confusion or ambiguity in this rule.

[Solaires]

Diablo_Necromancer eredeti hozzászólása:

The Mayor of Murder Town eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah it's very suspicious.

Nothing suspicious at all assuming people have basic comprehension skills. Here is the rule straight from Square Enix on home purchasing requirement:

“You do not have a character on the same service account that purchased and maintains a plot on the same World“

“You may only purchase and maintain one private plot and one free company plot per World per service account.”

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/contentsguide/housing_land/

Notice the phrase “same World” I mean it can’t be any more obvious right? There’s literally no confusion or ambiguity in this rule.

Seems pointless regardless and the reason why they amped up to prevent multiple house buying. Their whole intent is one per player to create fairness. In regards also seems pointless to play on more then one world. In regards it may not be cheating though I think it really is just bending the rules.

[Integrity]

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

Seems pointless regardless and the reason why they amped up to prevent multiple house buying. Their whole intent is one per player to create fairness. In regards also seems pointless to play on more then one world. In regards it may not be cheating though I think it really is just bending the rules.

Yeah I think they should've made the rule one house per account. That would less the supply issues a bit for house. Maybe SE underestimated how popular housing would be. But I mean, there are a few things I think they can do right now that would fix housing right away. But we are getting off topic.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

TheVoidSpirit eredeti hozzászólása:

Diablo_Necromancer eredeti hozzászólása:

You can only own 1 personal house and 1 fc house per character per world (and yes there is a way to get around the 1 fc house limit thing) so many of us level multiple alts to acquire houses without breaking ToS. Make sure your alts are on different worlds. I won 5 houses on my alts solo fc yesterday, including 4 shirogane beach houses, for example. You can't do that if you only have one character.

don't be like this guy. one house per account is enough, we already have a shortage.

some people just like to ruin the game for everyone else.

[Solaires]

Diablo_Necromancer eredeti hozzászólása:

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

Seems pointless regardless and the reason why they amped up to prevent multiple house buying. Their whole intent is one per player to create fairness. In regards also seems pointless to play on more then one world. In regards it may not be cheating though I think it really is just bending the rules.

Yeah I think they should've made the rule one house per account. That would less the supply issues a bit for house. Maybe SE underestimated how popular housing would be. But I mean, there are a few things I think they can do right now that would fix housing right away. But we are getting off topic.

Ya there's a few things they should've. Like our item list needs better sorting and storage and glamour could use a collection booklet like wow instead of the current glamour chest and armoire which would sort expansions and categorize the obtainability like dungeons as well as maybe show how they look hovering over them. The dream thing sort is nice but it should be in there similar for choosing glam too. If you toss cash items on accident you lose it. Like that should be in the salvager to rebuy with gil after you bought it once. I've lost numerous cash items that way and they look like every other grey or blue gear in the game.

Furthermore like I stated about being able to main different classes i think raids should be one run per class per week not 1 run per week for savage raid gear. This would also help when you need to replace someone some weeks as they have RL priorities and couldn't make it.

As the housing it's not against the rules even with the multiple accounts more likely because they can't track that stuff though tbh they could track other worlds and accounts. It also just seems like loop holes and to bend rules they can't really do anything about. They couldn't tell that that other account isn't your girlfriends or anything like that so per account is more easier.

[TheVoidSpirit]

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

Furthermore like I stated about being able to main different classes i think raids should be one run per class per week not 1 run per week for savage raid gear. This would also help when you need to replace someone some weeks as they have RL priorities and couldn't make it.

The problem with this would be, that the coffers you get from Savages would need to be locked to the Job you played as when you obtained it, otherwise people with all Jobs at 90 could get an entire set in one week, plus extras. Or you only get books, which is still potentially 19 books per week, way more than you really need.
Does gearing need improvements? Yes, but getting up to 19 looted clears or books per week isn't exactly balanced, I would say.

[Alternity]

TheVoidSpirit eredeti hozzászólása:

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

Furthermore like I stated about being able to main different classes i think raids should be one run per class per week not 1 run per week for savage raid gear. This would also help when you need to replace someone some weeks as they have RL priorities and couldn't make it.

The problem with this would be, that the coffers you get from Savages would need to be locked to the Job you played as when you obtained it, otherwise people with all Jobs at 90 could get an entire set in one week, plus extras. Or you only get books, which is still potentially 19 books per week, way more than you really need.
Does gearing need improvements? Yes, but getting up to 19 looted clears or books per week isn't exactly balanced, I would say.

I think just making the coffers only openabled once per week per job would be a good compromise. You can farm coffers, but you can only open once per week per job per boss. It would be kinda confusing though since they'd have to make some new interface to easily see which job can open which coffer at any given time.

Regardless of the method they would use in this hypotethical scenario, we do need a better way to gear jobs for high end raiding.

[TheVoidSpirit]

Alternity eredeti hozzászólása:

TheVoidSpirit eredeti hozzászólása:

The problem with this would be, that the coffers you get from Savages would need to be locked to the Job you played as when you obtained it, otherwise people with all Jobs at 90 could get an entire set in one week, plus extras. Or you only get books, which is still potentially 19 books per week, way more than you really need.
Does gearing need improvements? Yes, but getting up to 19 looted clears or books per week isn't exactly balanced, I would say.

I think just making the coffers only openabled once per week per job would be a good compromise. You can farm coffers, but you can only open once per week per job per boss. It would be kinda confusing though since they'd have to make some new interface to easily see which job can open which coffer at any given time.

Regardless of the method they would use in this hypotethical scenario, we do need a better way to gear jobs for high end raiding.

That would lead to Healers and Tanks getting more gear than phys. Ranged and Casters, which get more gear than the Melee's. Personally, I don't know how SE can improve gearing, other than maybe slightly reducing the book cost of the gear. Plus potential tomestone changes.

[Alternity]

TheVoidSpirit eredeti hozzászólása:

Alternity eredeti hozzászólása:

I think just making the coffers only openabled once per week per job would be a good compromise. You can farm coffers, but you can only open once per week per job per boss. It would be kinda confusing though since they'd have to make some new interface to easily see which job can open which coffer at any given time.

Regardless of the method they would use in this hypotethical scenario, we do need a better way to gear jobs for high end raiding.

That would lead to Healers and Tanks getting more gear than phys. Ranged and Casters, which get more gear than the Melee's. Personally, I don't know how SE can improve gearing, other than maybe slightly reducing the book cost of the gear. Plus potential tomestone changes.

Or remove the weekly cap after 8 weeks instead of idk how many months. It wouldn't fix the problem for your first job you're gearing but it would make it much easier to gear once you got BiS on your main.

[chipofsalt]

Keeping coffers the way they are now is fine. What they need to do is pretty much halve the book cost for savage gear.

8 weeks of books for body and weapon is ridiculous. Likewise, 4 per accessory is as well given you need so many of them.

If your group is evenly giving out loot over 8 weeks of single clears, you'll likely only have the savage pieces for one alt job, plus a little extra for a second alt job INCLUDING book purchases.

So if they keep coffer drops the same - which I would be okay with - they would need to dramatically decrease the cost of items with books.

[Havok]

XIV by nature is not really designed, from a gameplay perspective to force you into different characters. The whole concept is to have one character that does everything. I have tried to run an alt character, mainly as someone said earlier to join some friends on the EU servers, but its brutal to grind all the way back up 1-90 and do all the MSQ once again. So, they offer skips for such an event.

You absolutely can play multiple characters, and I know a lot of people who have, for different reasons, but I think if you are spending time to have any degree of endgame gear, and you have, lets say a couple classes at 90 already, and that isnt even including any crafting/gathering related stuff, the appeal of multiple characters diminishes pretty heavily *unless* you are playing a boosted character, with friends on a different regional DC, and both your main and alt are in fact endgame.

Thats if you don't want to just transfer there all together. I can tell you this, 2 tiers of savage raiding, and I havent even touched ultimates, I am not a dedicated enough raider to do that for 2, potentially 3 characters.

[Solaires]

TheVoidSpirit eredeti hozzászólása:

Solaires eredeti hozzászólása:

Furthermore like I stated about being able to main different classes i think raids should be one run per class per week not 1 run per week for savage raid gear. This would also help when you need to replace someone some weeks as they have RL priorities and couldn't make it.

The problem with this would be, that the coffers you get from Savages would need to be locked to the Job you played as when you obtained it, otherwise people with all Jobs at 90 could get an entire set in one week, plus extras. Or you only get books, which is still potentially 19 books per week, way more than you really need.
Does gearing need improvements? Yes, but getting up to 19 looted clears or books per week isn't exactly balanced, I would say.

This is true but it's still ridiculous not to be able to swap and honestly it's already been 10 years of ridiculousness where you may not get rewarded from chests at all but only by the drop to trade in. In regards I've never once thought savage raid loot was well managed in the first place.

Also the guy below you doesn't get that the patch they release is the only time the gear matters. After it's glam and that's the only reason you use it afterwards. The purpose is to be useful in raids at the time their the current content. On the contrary it's my point though. If you want to main more classes in savage raids then it's better having the alt classes regardless being manageable with raid gear even necessarily. Not just for the raid gear either but the tomestone gear also. Also making an Alt is if it's only one class you focus which is essentially just running the story. On the contrary you don't need all your alts being mentors and it's probably a bit harder getting the comms now then over how it use to be anyway. There's not a big need for alt crafters even for specialist but leves gets them levelled if you care about that. On the contrary gathering extra maps might be one of the exceptions and there's no rules about collecting 8 maps daily not being allowed. Hence a little more profit and reward. However there's really not much other reason unless you want to be in multiple of your friends guilds. Alts will allow you to do this.