About modding

[OMGitsTHEMEMI]

So I know lots of users used mods for changing skins and such, but with the recent events will this mods get you banned? or you can still use those

[causality]

Can't believe someone woke up today just to argue video drivers (which you need to run the game) are against the aforementioned game's ToS.

[Under there]

kick modders from your dungeons
kick modders from your trials
kick modders from your raid
kick modders from your guildhests
remove modders from your pf groups
[Mare Lamentorum] = instant black list
report modders
perminately send modders to GM gaol
take away modders homes
take away modders apartments
block modders from using the market board
break modders EB rings
remove modders savage titles
remove modders ultimate titles
destroy modders ultimate weapons

[Scarsick]

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

引用自 Scarsick：

Again, shaders can't get you in trouble, period. You can accept it or just provide evidence of people getting banned for using shaders.



LOL, "shaders is agains ToS, but Nvidia shadrers are not because their drivers are allowed"

Then why don’t you put that to the test, prove me wrong by doing what I requested from others here.

NVIDIA Is not a 3rd party for ff14. More of 2nd party.

Prove everyone else here wrong and show a single player banned for using reshade. Perhaps we should ask all those streamers who use it how they do it without getting banned?

"2nd party" LOL.

[^3JumpinJackFlashOG]

引用自 240p enjoyer：

kick modders from your dungeons
kick modders from your trials
kick modders from your raid
kick modders from your guildhests
remove modders from your pf groups
[Mare Lamentorum] = instant black list
report modders
perminately send modders to GM gaol
take away modders homes
take away modders apartments
block modders from using the market board
break modders EB rings
remove modders savage titles
remove modders ultimate titles
destroy modders ultimate weapons

I don’t understand your point here. Don’t we all agree to the TOS when we signed up and pay the sub fee? now people here are against when it comes to mods?

[galacticcorgi]

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

引用自 galacticcorgi：

Then I hope you unplug any NVIDIA cards because they come with shaders now lmao

Why? NVIDIA software and drivers are allowed. The devs are talking about shady mods that are not from a credible source like these big businesses. Do you use any mods for this game?

So NVIDIA is an exception.

The only "mods" I use is ReShade. Because I get eye strain from how washed out the ARR areas are. It's an accessibility feature for me because I can make it not... Do weird things to the UI (KeepUI.fx is a godsend).

Many streamers, including ones the devs REGULARLY WORK WITH AND WATCH, use Shaders. Visibly. They have yet to be banned.

[^3JumpinJackFlashOG]

引用自 Scarsick：

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

Then why don’t you put that to the test, prove me wrong by doing what I requested from others here.

NVIDIA Is not a 3rd party for ff14. More of 2nd party.

Prove everyone else here wrong and show a single player banned for using reshade. Perhaps we should ask all those streamers who use it how they do it without getting banned?

"2nd party" LOL.

You keep deflecting in my request. If you feel so much in the right, this should be an easy task for you and others to back up your claims that it’s not going to get players banned.

You quote and laugh at my points, it doesn’t make it not true.

[Alternity]

引用自 galacticcorgi：

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

Why? NVIDIA software and drivers are allowed. The devs are talking about shady mods that are not from a credible source like these big businesses. Do you use any mods for this game?

So NVIDIA is an exception.

The only "mods" I use is ReShade. Because I get eye strain from how washed out the ARR areas are. It's an accessibility feature for me because I can make it not... Do weird things to the UI (KeepUI.fx is a godsend).

Many streamers, including ones the devs REGULARLY WORK WITH AND WATCH, use Shaders. Visibly. They have yet to be banned.

Can you imagine progging P3S without a shader.

[^3JumpinJackFlashOG]

引用自 galacticcorgi：

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

Why? NVIDIA software and drivers are allowed. The devs are talking about shady mods that are not from a credible source like these big businesses. Do you use any mods for this game?

So NVIDIA is an exception.

The only "mods" I use is ReShade. Because I get eye strain from how washed out the ARR areas are. It's an accessibility feature for me because I can make it not... Do weird things to the UI (KeepUI.fx is a godsend).

Many streamers, including ones the devs REGULARLY WORK WITH AND WATCH, use Shaders. Visibly. They have yet to be banned.

2nd party is the exception. It’s pretty clear when they mentioned 3rd party.

[Alternity]

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

引用自 galacticcorgi：

So NVIDIA is an exception.

The only "mods" I use is ReShade. Because I get eye strain from how washed out the ARR areas are. It's an accessibility feature for me because I can make it not... Do weird things to the UI (KeepUI.fx is a godsend).

Many streamers, including ones the devs REGULARLY WORK WITH AND WATCH, use Shaders. Visibly. They have yet to be banned.

2nd party is the exception. It’s pretty clear when they mentioned 3rd party.

2nd party is the user btw, not sure why you keep refering to basically yourself.

[Izeyash]

引用自 galacticcorgi：

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

Why? NVIDIA software and drivers are allowed. The devs are talking about shady mods that are not from a credible source like these big businesses. Do you use any mods for this game?

So NVIDIA is an exception.

The only "mods" I use is ReShade. Because I get eye strain from how washed out the ARR areas are. It's an accessibility feature for me because I can make it not... Do weird things to the UI (KeepUI.fx is a godsend).

Many streamers, including ones the devs REGULARLY WORK WITH AND WATCH, use Shaders. Visibly. They have yet to be banned.

It's not an exception if they specifically designed the game to communicate with your gpu. They intended the game to use your gpu, maybe even integrated graphics for that matter.

Just use the game as is. Don't modify it. Easy as that.

[galacticcorgi]

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

引用自 galacticcorgi：

So NVIDIA is an exception.

The only "mods" I use is ReShade. Because I get eye strain from how washed out the ARR areas are. It's an accessibility feature for me because I can make it not... Do weird things to the UI (KeepUI.fx is a godsend).

Many streamers, including ones the devs REGULARLY WORK WITH AND WATCH, use Shaders. Visibly. They have yet to be banned.

2nd party is the exception. It’s pretty clear when they mentioned 3rd party.

But NVIDIA shaders are third party. They aren't second party, you just don't wanna twist yourself into pretzels to explain why NVIDIA is okay by the devs but ReShade isn't.

An I mean that it isn't 2nd party because I didn't develop NVIDIA: Second party software is software that is developed by the user him/herself.

[galacticcorgi]

引用自 Izeyash：

引用自 galacticcorgi：

So NVIDIA is an exception.

The only "mods" I use is ReShade. Because I get eye strain from how washed out the ARR areas are. It's an accessibility feature for me because I can make it not... Do weird things to the UI (KeepUI.fx is a godsend).

Many streamers, including ones the devs REGULARLY WORK WITH AND WATCH, use Shaders. Visibly. They have yet to be banned.

It's not an exception if they specifically designed the game to communicate with your gpu. They intended the game to use your gpu, maybe even integrated graphics for that matter.

But if Shaders are bad, NVIDIA is bad. They designed it before NVIDIA shaders that i'm talking about were a thing, and yet... They don't say you can't use NVIDIA cards now that they have these shaders.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

引用自 Giganx：

引用自 Sofia♡：

So figure it out yourself. Why would a game dev ban for something that makes their game look a bit better and more modern and thus bringing in new players when they see how the game can look? It's graphics are old, not as old as WoW, but still old. Common sense says devs "silently allow" the graphics mods that just improve/modernize the washed up colors and shadows a bit.

The game doesn't look that way, though. People who buy the game because they were given the wrong impression of how the game looks are going to be disappointed, or at worst feel like they were victims of fraudulent advertising.



The devs seem to 'silently allow' things until they're backed into a corner. If you record and post yourself doing a high profile world first while running illegal mods then they're backed into a corner. If you have a 3 hour, 2000 line conversation in shout about all the UI and visual mods you use, and a ton of people report you then they're backed into a corner. These things are against the ToS, so if you blatantly push your luck with them something could definitely happen. Just be smart.

What Yoshida said basically boils down to this: "The goal of making 3rd party software/modification illegal is to prevent bullying/harrassment and cheating. However, we're not going to try to vet every piece of third party software on the planet and we're not going to try to navigate grey areas when enforcing this, so here's our position... IT'S ALL ILLEGAL. ANY use of third party software to alter or enhance the game is against the ToS."

Game -should- look that way, and it -could- if they only actually would just make same type of shader/graphic update on the actual game. And i think they will have to soon. I mean 7.0 or 8.0.. imagine if FF14 continues with the same old graphics engine/settings meanwhile every other modern mmo starts to be on latest Unreal tier graphics, color depths, shadows and settings.

You know what most likely been stopping it? The console version. In most games that have both pc and console version, the memory/performance limitations comes from console. Like on ESO the devs admitted they had a lot of limitations and so on what could be done per instance, how much load the game can handle, because of console, even decent PC could handle those fine. But since they had same code and server structure for both, then they had limitations.

This whole conversation is pointless sort of what comes to shaders imo. I mean i know some people like to just argue because they know it triggers some lol, but also they just make themselves look a bit silly.

Everyone wants the shader graphics and chat bubbles to be in the official game. As available options to pick. Anyone who would not want a graphic update or chat bubbles needs their MMO player licence taken away. :P

And if i have to guess? They will be in the game officially. "Soon". Hope next gen consoles can handle same as decent PC can. *prays*

I was just watching Pint's latest vods, all with Shader on . Ban where? :D And he has done his clips, streams and vods with character name and server on for a year now.

So yeah, people can talk about what they want. I myself now use NVIDIA settings so does not affect me anymore. *shrugs*

Still, would be nice if SE would give us some QoL things on graphics settings officially when the next big expansion comes. :)

[^3JumpinJackFlashOG]

引用自 galacticcorgi：

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

2nd party is the exception. It’s pretty clear when they mentioned 3rd party.

But NVIDIA shaders are third party. They aren't second party, you just don't wanna twist yourself into pretzels to explain why NVIDIA is okay by the devs but ReShade isn't.

An I mean that it isn't 2nd party because I didn't develop NVIDIA: Second party software is software that is developed by the user him/herself.

You can always write to them ( both companies) and ask them yourself since no one here wants to test it out in real time.

[galacticcorgi]

引用自 ^3JumpinJackFlashOG：

引用自 galacticcorgi：

But NVIDIA shaders are third party. They aren't second party, you just don't wanna twist yourself into pretzels to explain why NVIDIA is okay by the devs but ReShade isn't.

An I mean that it isn't 2nd party because I didn't develop NVIDIA: Second party software is software that is developed by the user him/herself.

You can always write to them ( both companies) and ask them yourself since no one here wants to test it out in real time.

...My guy we have linked to streamers who the devs KNOW ABOUT who use obvious shaders with their IGN attached who have yet to be banned, and you have linked to 0 people banned for using shaders, so I think this is just about you being cornered.