About the new Criterion dungeon

[Angrypillow]

Gotta say, not a fan. I was looking forward to something more challenging than the regular dungeons, but this feels like borderline savage progression. Complete overkill. The other people in my group(all raiders) felt the same way. The thought of having to clear it over two dozen times to get the only thing worth grinding for pretty much killed any interest I might have had. If they do something stupid like tie the relic quest-line to this I'll just uninstall the game.

[Oberon]

Don't ask for harder content and then be surprised when the monkey's finger curls.

[Giganx]

I'm fine with it staying difficult, but they need to add worthwhile rewards. If it's Savage tier difficulty then give us Savage tier gear and mounts for running it.

Tying the relic to it would be ridiculous, though. I doubt they're that dense.

[weiss]

you mean the last boss only variants right?
yes, technicly are those the savage versions of the casual ones.
you are not wrong with "straight forward savage". sorry i didnt wanted to use that B word x3.

tho i would more say that it is somewhere inbetween casual and savage. savage is kind of unforgivable while you can still safe the run here. expecially cause everyone can rez.

[Angrypillow]

Originally posted by Chiro:

you mean the last boss only variants right?
yes, technicly are those the savage versions of the casual ones.
you are not wrong with "straight forward savage". sorry i didnt wanted to use that B word x3.

tho i would more say that it is somewhere inbetween casual and savage. savage is kind of unforgivable while you can still safe the run here. expecially cause everyone can rez.

They aren't supposed to be savage though, because there is an actual savage version of the same instance that you need premade groups for.

[weiss]

like i said, i would more say its somewhere in between casual and savage.
tho granted, for what you can get for clearing the "non-savage" one is it pretty hard.

[Alternity]

Originally posted by AngryPillow:

Originally posted by Chiro:

you mean the last boss only variants right?
yes, technicly are those the savage versions of the casual ones.
you are not wrong with "straight forward savage". sorry i didnt wanted to use that B word x3.

tho i would more say that it is somewhere inbetween casual and savage. savage is kind of unforgivable while you can still safe the run here. expecially cause everyone can rez.

They aren't supposed to be savage though, because there is an actual savage version of the same instance that you need premade groups for.

They really weren't that difficult, if you're talking about Variant Dungeons. I'd place them at about "Delubrum Reginae (Normal)" difficulty. The Duty Skills they give you are busted, Variant Rampart especially, a giant shield every 15 seconds and 20% mitigation.

If you're talking about Criterion Dungeons, I'd place them somewhere between a hard Extreme fight and an easy Savage fight, Diamond Weapon Level maybe, which is technically in line of what they told us it would be.

[Angrypillow]

Originally posted by Alternity:

Originally posted by AngryPillow:

They aren't supposed to be savage though, because there is an actual savage version of the same instance that you need premade groups for.

They really weren't that difficult, if you're talking about Variant Dungeons. I'd place them at about "Delubrum Reginae (Normal)" difficulty. The Duty Skills they give you are busted, Variant Rampart especially, a giant shield every 15 seconds and 20% mitigation.

If you're talking about Criterion Dungeons, I'd place them somewhere between a hard Extreme fight and an easy Savage fight, Diamond Weapon Level maybe, which is technically in line of what they told us it would be.

Variant is easy, I was talking about the criterion. I just don't know why it's so hard to have middle ground for difficulty. It's one extreme or the other.

[Alternity]

Originally posted by AngryPillow:

Originally posted by Alternity:

They really weren't that difficult, if you're talking about Variant Dungeons. I'd place them at about "Delubrum Reginae (Normal)" difficulty. The Duty Skills they give you are busted, Variant Rampart especially, a giant shield every 15 seconds and 20% mitigation.

If you're talking about Criterion Dungeons, I'd place them somewhere between a hard Extreme fight and an easy Savage fight, Diamond Weapon Level maybe, which is technically in line of what they told us it would be.

Variant is easy, I was talking about the criterion. I just don't know why it's so hard to have middle ground for difficulty. It's one extreme or the other.

YoshiP did tell us it was around Extreme difficulty, and it is (albeit on the harder side of the spectrum). They delivered what they told they would. Not sure what to say on that one, maybe you weren't aware of that statement.

[Hex]

"Give us hard small group content omg stop being lazy"

"TOO HARD OMG WTF DEVS NERF PLS"

Shocking, truly.

Look champ, you're just not that good. Stick to normal dungeons.

[Angrypillow]

Originally posted by Hex:

"Give us hard small group content omg stop being lazy"

"TOO HARD OMG WTF DEVS NERF PLS"

Shocking, truly.

Look champ, you're just not that good. Stick to normal dungeons.

Keep the trolling elitist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to yourself.

[Hex]

Originally posted by AngryPillow:

Originally posted by Hex:

"Give us hard small group content omg stop being lazy"

"TOO HARD OMG WTF DEVS NERF PLS"

Shocking, truly.

Look champ, you're just not that good. Stick to normal dungeons.

Keep the trolling elitist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to yourself.

No, no I don't think I will.

Stop asking for content to be nerfed just because YOU can't do it.

[Lord Doober De La Goober MXI]

its optional, best to either to have practice runs, wait for a guide (prob already one up) or just outright don't do it

though it is going to get nerfed sooner or later we all know this

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by AngryPillow:

this feels like borderline savage progression.

Wasn't that the point?

[causality]

I hope in the future we get more content like this and the Bozjan savage raid which unfortunately no one forms groups for anymore.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by causality:

I hope in the future we get more content like this and the Bozjan savage raid which unfortunately no one forms groups for anymore.

wtf you talking about, there's entire discords dedicated to running Delubrum Reginae savage.