"Rescue" Should be removed

[Idi Amin]

It's a useless ability that is only used for people to pull tanks during dungeons to aggro more then what they may be comfortable with.
Also It's become an ability solely used to troll for the seventh circle. Twice now I've raged quit because some Ahole will use rescue to pull me off one of the bridges.

Why is this still in the game? The utility is non existent as majority of the time it cant be used quick enough to actually save someone.

[MOSLEY]

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That sounds like cheating. The balance of the move relies on the fact you have to react fast.

How is it cheating? The function is built into the game...

Wait til he finds out about crafting macros...

[Raansu]

You want it to spam the input due to the limitations of macros within the GCD and to basically ensure it actually fires off. You don't have to do it like that, but its basically a fail safe way to do.

[MOSLEY]

If you press a skill a fraction of a second before it’s able to be used, the game queues the action and performs it as soon as it’s able to. Macros don’t do that, so you typically have the macro spam the ability to emulate the same effect. Macros still don’t work as reliably as normal keybinds but they’re a lot more reliable if you write them like that than if you just write the ability once.

[AI Player 1]

That is actually super good info for my Dragon Sight macro I use so I don't need to select a target.

[Sir McCannonarms]

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its used to pull people out of AoEs

Tell me who has the ninja like reflexes to pull someone out of an aoe with rescue? Over 4000 hours in the game I've yet to see it used for anything other then griefing/bullying.

I don't have to very often but if someone is about to get hit by an AoE (especially if I know it is particularly lethal), I will rescue them. However, if it is a black mage AND they have ley lines down, I leave them to their devices.

[GoreTiger]

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its used to pull people out of AoEs

Tell me who has the ninja like reflexes to pull someone out of an aoe with rescue? Over 4000 hours in the game I've yet to see it used for anything other then griefing/bullying.

I will say I saw it being used pretty successfully when helping sprouts on lower levels. Was doing my dailies and the one dungeon with the gryphon boss at the end came up. The sprouts didn't know about hiding behind the rocks so our healer kept pulling them behind it.

What I'm curious about is, if you're fast enough, can Rescue pull someone back from falling out of bounds if they're in the process of falling?

[Crystal Goddess]

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What I'm curious about is, if you're fast enough, can Rescue pull someone back from falling out of bounds if they're in the process of falling?

It can be done, but the timing required to stop someone from plummeting to their death is more precise than pulling someone out of an AoE, it basically needs to be the second they go over the edge of the arena.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

I got rescued from AoE more than once when i wasn't paying attention, seen others get rescued too.

[shit owl]

im not seeing any good arguments for why it should be removed as expected just someone who got manhandled by a healer having a mental breakdown

[Raansu]

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That is actually super good info for my Dragon Sight macro I use so I don't need to select a target.

You can do mouse over or you can do party list commands. For BLM for example I have a hidden bar with aether manipulation macros on it for each number in the party list which looks like;

/merror off
/micon Aether Manipulation
/ac "Aether Manipulation <2>
/ac "Aether Manipulation <2>
/ac "Aether Manipulation <2>

I have one for each party slot and keybound to ctrl+# You don't need to mouse over and you don't need to ever target anyone. Works great for me.

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Tell me who has the ninja like reflexes to pull someone out of an aoe with rescue? Over 4000 hours in the game I've yet to see it used for anything other then griefing/bullying.

I don't have to very often but if someone is about to get hit by an AoE (especially if I know it is particularly lethal), I will rescue them. However, if it is a black mage AND they have ley lines down, I leave them to their devices.

BLM's have aether manipulation and between the lines. There's no excuse for them anymore lol.

[Sigvuld]

I say this as a tank main of many years : "You pull you tank"/YPYT is a cancerous mindset that deserves to be excised like the tumor that it is

In XIV, you have every tool you could possibly need to absolutely and instantaneously decimate any challenge to your place at the top of the aggro table the micro-instant anyone else pulls said aggro. Make use of them, and be a better tank. Until then, you will continue to fall behind while having the same sprint button everyone else does. This is of course ignoring tanks who are still learning, be patient with them, but they'll learn quickly if they actually WANT to learn, and you shouldn't have to be forced to pull more than one pack at a time past level, like, 50.

Rescue is great for a plethora of reasons and proving to scared tanks that they can handle more without issue is but one of them.

[Tivz]

I remember one time I was running Grand Cosmos as a WHM. During the last boss we all got the blue flames and ran to the furniture to remove it but the tank didn't get close enough and ran back to the boss with a blue flame still. I used rescue to pull them back to the furniture to remove it before they died. I thought this was a pretty good use of Rescue

[Last Place]

Nah, Rescue is fine. People used it to save me out of AoE's when I was a scrub and instead of pissing myself and ruining the dungeon/trial for everyone, I just thanked them for looking out for me. I even had some one Rescue me back into my Leylines after dodging an AoE, it was hilarious.

When you say it's used by healers to make tanks pull more, perhaps there's a hint they are trying to give you while you're single pulling in level 90 dungeons or whatever you were doing.

Sure, there's people who abuse it, but same goes for tons of abilities. I could use BLM's or MNK's rush to bring AoE's to you if I wanted, do these need to be deleted, too? I could do the same with walking, does movement need to be deleted by your logic, too?



Also, shout out to the guy who thinks having any type of reflexes is cheating, I'd love to see you play fighting games.

[Ʀลร]

95% when some random using rescue theyre actually try to rescue you. Very often its just to late and it looks like you died because of the rescue pull and yes sometimes the healer did a mistake and didnt thinked far enough and you got accidential pulled to another aoe or something that is lethal to you.

When you have a healer friend in your group then yes you might be in trouble.

[Fuzzyboots]

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its used to pull people out of AoEs

Tell me who has the ninja like reflexes to pull someone out of an aoe with rescue? Over 4000 hours in the game I've yet to see it used for anything other then griefing/bullying.

I have only been playing for about six months and have used it successfully three times. If I were to guess I have used the ability about 15 times. So my success rate is 3/15. That is a low success rate, but they would have died regardless if I had not even tried. You always gotta try! Griefers will always exist, sadly. I don't know the solution. I just wanted to offer my input that it does work on some occasions.