Blue Mage's design is ridiculous

[Nerva Matapan]

I'd "main" BLU - inasmuch as anyone can main a job that can never reach the cap. I'd be happy to do all the grinding; all the skill locating; the carnivale - everything. I'm even fine with restricting myself on current content.

But I'm stymied - no, simply outright blocked - from doing so by the means in which a full eight tenths of the abilities are attained: in synched dungeons, which I, of course, cannot queue for.

That leaves premades. The problem with that is, I don't ever see BLUs looking for group - maybe I play at the wrong times; maybe I'm not looking in the right places. But I'm not seeing them. Ultimately, in order to be a successful BLU, you're going to need other BLUs with-which to do those synced dungeons... or a VERY supportive guild. I'm not in a guild, though... and, if I was, I cannot imagine imposing on virtual strangers (or even people I had known for, say, a few months) to run the necessary dungeons to get the abilities this job needs.

Because, this isn't just asking for a favor... or two... or, even, five. This is asking for like EIGHTY FAVORS - some of which may require repeat clears and even wipes (several of the abilities will only be cast if you fail mechanics on bosses). And I'm just not that kind of person - I cannot be that way to people I barely know.

What's even stranger is that almost all of BLU's utility is solo in nature - allowing you to clear fates and some raid content by your lonesome in record time. Yet, to get there, you need to have a ludicrous level of support. And I just can't ever see myself having it. And that's a real shame.

[patpatyos]

Blue Mage is not a main job its just an alternate game mode just for fun thats why.

[Nerva Matapan]

Originally posted by patyos:

Blue Mage is not a main job its just an alternate game mode just for fun thats why.

Okay that really doesn't address the issue I raised. "Just for fun" doesn't expalin the class' habitual reliance on the goodwill of others to advance. Yeah, I get it: it's not a 'real' job. But it's still in the game, and still needs to collect those abilities to be successful. And to do that, it requires other players hold your hand the entire way.

[Raansu]

Its an MMO....make a party finder, join an FC and ask them....socialize a little. There's always people doing stuff with BLU.

[SynC[+]]

Open your own PF and shout in towns so other players are aware and join your PF. Its pretty much the same for other non meta or DR related content like light farming or map runs.

If no one is joining your PF after you wait a considerable amount of time, start offering gil and pay people for helping in your runs then. There will always be people desperate for more gil and will join you if the price is right.

[Sunny]

If you don't find a party in party finder, make your own! Somebody has to be the first person to step up, no matter what SE does. Unfortunately, there's just no getting around the fact that some features in an MMO are going to require you to play with other people.

If you can't bring yourself to do what is required by the minigame (engaging with other people), then you can't do the minigame.

Not every person is going to be able to do every thing the game has available; I'm not over here asking for housing prices to be lowered because I don't feel like working at making gil. You don't feel like working at making friends; that's fine, but that doesn't make the feature bad.

Not every difficulty people face has to be catered to and tiptoed around. Stop advocating for things to be taken away from other people because you can't do them. That's gross levels of entitlement.

[Kiana]

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

But I'm stymied - no, simply outright blocked - from doing so by the means in which a full eight tenths of the abilities are attained: in synched dungeons, which I, of course, cannot queue for.

You can also get them unsynced, the learn rate is just worse. I learned Eruption off unsynced Ifrit normal back at the level 50 cap. And a few of the level 50 spells on my alt after Basic Instinct got added.

I also agree with everything Sunny said above.

[Nerva Matapan]

Originally posted by Sunny:

Not every difficulty people face has to be catered to and tiptoed around. Stop advocating for things to be taken away from other people because you can't do them. That's gross levels of entitlement.

Same disturbed FFXIV community as ever, I see. Criticism of the thing we literally worship in place of a god? Heresy. Drive the nonbeliever away.

Are you ever self-aware enough to realize you're a clone? Or is that asking for way too much?

The job is flawed, whether you - in your white knight's fury - choose to acknowledge it or not. A class that isn't a real class, that cannot contribute to the endgame; that cannot assist in the 'greater good' of a cooperative like a guild, must ask for assistance at every turn, just to cap-out on abilities and essentially serve as a FATE-bot?

And you want to lecture someone on entitlement? Get out.

[Sunny]

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

Originally posted by Sunny:

Not every difficulty people face has to be catered to and tiptoed around. Stop advocating for things to be taken away from other people because you can't do them. That's gross levels of entitlement.

Same disturbed FFXIV community as ever, I see. Criticism of the thing we literally worship in place of a god? Heresy. Drive the nonbeliever away.

Are you ever self-aware enough to realize you're a clone? Or is that asking for way too much?

Potato.

[Nerva Matapan]

Originally posted by Sunny:

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

Same disturbed FFXIV community as ever, I see. Criticism of the thing we literally worship in place of a god? Heresy. Drive the nonbeliever away.

Are you ever self-aware enough to realize you're a clone? Or is that asking for way too much?

Potato.

Drive-by ad hominem. You bore me.

[Kiana]

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

Drive-by ad hominem. You bore me.

You equated "It's a mini-game, it's not meant to appeal to everyone" with a religion. You do not get to cry ad hominem after that.

[Sunny]

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

Originally posted by Sunny:

Potato.

Drive-by ad hominem. You bore me.

Huh? Sorry, I thought we were just saying random things. Did you expect some sort of reasonable response to accusations of being a clone?

[dannyj147]

Posting on steam forums regarding gameplay mechanics is like farting in the wind. If you want to be heard best to post on the official forums.

[Sunny]

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

A class that isn't a real class, that cannot contribute to the endgame; that cannot assist in the 'greater good' of a cooperative like a guild, must ask for assistance at every turn, just to cap-out on abilities and essentially serve as a FATE-bot?

It's a minigame. What you're listing as flaws here is intentional design. They wanted to include it for nostalgia purposes without causing a problem for everything else, so this is what we got. It does exactly what it was designed to do, and is working precisely as intended.

Can't take your racing chocobos out into the world either, afaik.

MGP can only be spent at the casino, not at the marketboard.

The fish you catch on ocean fishing trips don't get used in cooking recipes.

Blue Mage is usable in the open world, and requires a support group in group content to advance.

Working as intended.

[weiss]

lol and here we go again, royal finding another reason to complain.
the reason why blue mage is restricted is because he can learn redicioulus overpowered skills. you can as blue mage with the right skills solo lv 70 content HECK you could even solo lv 60 extremes if you do it right so overpowered is blue mage. THATS why blue mage is restricted and it will be always like that because its a fun jobclass.

if you want a challenge, make a full blue mage party and do the coils synced with 7 other blue mages together. you get even an achievement for it. i believe that counts for any ARR and HW raid.

why can you not accept how thinks are. why do you need to have it always in your way. first you complained about the slow combat ... now you probably noticed that it isnt longer slow at later levels and trying desperately to find other things to complain about. -_-

[Oberon]

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

Yet, to get there, you need to have a ludicrous level of support.

The same thing can be said about endgame raiding.

Originally posted by PrincessRoyal:

And I just can't ever see myself having it. And that's a real shame.

Then the onus is on you to get that support.