FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

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Alexis 2022年6月27日 16時58分
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New player, about to quit because boring quests (question)
As the title says.

I'm around level 40+. I started playing a week ago (I have limited time to play) because of the good feedback the game's story has and because I love FF since I was little.

However, the mission design…some days I had an hour to play, and that hour I was walking ping-pong with random NPCs doing pointless tasks, just teleportig and waling.

I understand the game have some years now, So the question is, is the rest of the game more or less like this?

Thank you!
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Splat 2022年6月30日 6時56分 
Aphelium の投稿を引用:
Splat の投稿を引用:
Maybe those here saying diminishing things about FFXIV are playing their first MMORPG, if so i can understand the criticism but even then if i or another person say that a specific game is good or bad it's just a personal opinion, if i say that FFXIV is bad it doesn't make it the truth to everyone, i just feel like those that come to these places saying that a game sucks and that their opinion is like pure gold, i don't care who you are, but that mindset just makes one a bigger idiot and a arrogant prick.

One thing that i think is important and i still think that many out there don't grasp this concept, no matter if this is a online game it's still a Final Fantasy game if one doesn't accept or understands that this is a game with a very important focus in the story well that person doesn't have a clue about what's a Final Fantasy game.
The problem isn't saying "this is bad" the problem is saying "I didn't do this, but it's bad" Like, how the hell do people expect others to take them seriously with that kind of statements?
You can deffinetly not like the story, and it has a few issues, sure, but stating you skipped EVRYTHING, and that it's bad, that is where people will have issues.
I mean, How can you tell me you don't like pizza if you never tasted it? And to add insult to injury, we get those kind of posts almost every day. People get tired of it, and that's why it all becomes a flame war.

The way i see it, people that play a game like FFXIV, skip the story and yet manage to find the nerve to go to forums to express how disappointed they are at the game's story just shows that human stupidity has no boundaries.
Blue 2022年6月30日 7時12分 
I too do not get much time to play during weekdays. Limited to 1 or 2 hour sessions at most. But I didn't find the ping pong quests much of a pain. If anything it was a nice pace to trickle story to someone who has never touched a final fantasy game and is desperately trying to understand what's going on.
DUST_ の投稿を引用:
I too do not get much time to play during weekdays. Limited to 1 or 2 hour sessions at most. But I didn't find the ping pong quests much of a pain. If anything it was a nice pace to trickle story to someone who has never touched a final fantasy game and is desperately trying to understand what's going on.

All FF games (save for direct sequels like X/X-2 and the XIII trilogy) take place in completely separate universes.

The only thing that's different about coming into XIV for someone who hasn't played a FF game before is not knowing about tropes of the franchise, like chocobos.
Blue 2022年6月30日 9時51分 
MOSLEY の投稿を引用:
DUST_ の投稿を引用:
I too do not get much time to play during weekdays. Limited to 1 or 2 hour sessions at most. But I didn't find the ping pong quests much of a pain. If anything it was a nice pace to trickle story to someone who has never touched a final fantasy game and is desperately trying to understand what's going on.

All FF games (save for direct sequels like X/X-2 and the XIII trilogy) take place in completely separate universes.

The only thing that's different about coming into XIV for someone who hasn't played a FF game before is not knowing about tropes of the franchise, like chocobos.

That's pretty much what I'm referring to.

It's pretty confusing when someone talks about crystals, moogles and chocobos. I didn't know what anything was.

It also didn't help that I haven't played an MMO in maybe 10 years now.
Will 2022年6月30日 10時32分 
ARR is a prologue and its old, you cant save the universe until you save your homeland.
Hill 2022年6月30日 13時41分 
bibron の投稿を引用:
Splat の投稿を引用:

Or maybe you just aren't patient at all and don't appreciate a world build up, but hey to each their own. I will never understand people that play games that are boring to them, and when i say boring i mean because the gameplay is boring or the story is boring etc...and yet people keep playing said game.

I do think that people like you keep playing a game like FFXIV just because it's super popular at the end of the day.

The gameplay is fine ... if you are playing the game i.e. the dungeons / trials in the msq (or everything else not related to the msq, i.e. crafting or going on the ocean to fish)
Other than that, going from A to B just to teleport to C to teleport back to A is hardly gameplay I have to say ;D
I play it for the dungeons. There is enough variation between the jobs that it always feels fresh. Story is boring.
Hill の投稿を引用:
I play it for the dungeons. There is enough variation between the jobs that it always feels fresh. Story is boring.
Your permit to have an opinion about the story was revoked the moment you skipped it all of it.
最近の変更はApheliumが行いました; 2022年6月30日 13時53分
Niras 2022年6月30日 14時00分 
As fellow sprout I feel you. In my case I've created like 6 characters and I don't thing I'll be able to get pass 35 lvl. once I buy full game.

From what I've heard base game is rough and it gets better in the later expansions so it's matter of survivng till Heavensward.

For me podcasts and videos in the background helped me a lot to endure the more boring quests.

You could also either buy story skip to 90 lvl in item shop or ignore the story and focus on quests, then rewatch cutscenes later like some ppl did. You'll definitely lose whole "journey" part of experiancing the story but at least you won't quit :/
Ok, veteran ffxiv player here. More than 3.3k hours played and can atest there's a lot of bs moments (company of herores questline, moogletown on hw, Hildibrand Manderville's quests, post-arr, the way rogue's guild talks, lalafells in general - personal opinion), but overal is a good single-player with a co-op system attached to it. Did all the quests until the beggining of ew (still need to buy - not gonna for a long time) I'm about to quit for some time myself. Side-quests are so-so, in general, but there's always some hidden pearls. I was doing msq again to see what modifications they did and on some dungeons, but i'm kinda tired again - just reached post-arr.
最近の変更はbakura133が行いました; 2022年9月15日 16時51分
bakura133 の投稿を引用:
Ok, veteran ffxiv player here. More than 3.3k hours played and can atest there's a lot of bs moments (company of herores questline, moogletown on hw, Hildibrand Manderville's quests, post-arr, the way rogue's guild talks, lalafells in general - personal opinion), but overal is a good single-player with a co-op system attached to it. Did all the quests until the beggining of ew (still need to buy - not gonna for a long time) I'm about to quit for some time myself. Side-quests are so-so, in general, but there's always some hidden pearls. I was doing msq again to see what modifications they did and on some dungeons, but i'm kinda tired again - just reached post-arr.
The Rogue's Guild uses real world Thieves' Cant. It's not BS, it's a real thing.



Nir4s の投稿を引用:
As fellow sprout I feel you. In my case I've created like 6 characters and I don't thing I'll be able to get pass 35 lvl. once I buy full game.

From what I've heard base game is rough and it gets better in the later expansions so it's matter of survivng till Heavensward.

For me podcasts and videos in the background helped me a lot to endure the more boring quests.

You could also either buy story skip to 90 lvl in item shop or ignore the story and focus on quests, then rewatch cutscenes later like some ppl did. You'll definitely lose whole "journey" part of experiancing the story but at least you won't quit :/
To be clear, ARR is foundation. It's worldbuilding. Ignore all the "ARR is trash" and have realistic expectations. It's setting the stage for a world you know nothing about. They had a time crunch and weren't even sure 2.0 was gonna survive long past launch, so had to do a ton of work. There are plenty of callbacks even in EW.
galacticcorgi の投稿を引用:
bakura133 の投稿を引用:
Ok, veteran ffxiv player here. More than 3.3k hours played and can atest there's a lot of bs moments (company of herores questline, moogletown on hw, Hildibrand Manderville's quests, post-arr, the way rogue's guild talks, lalafells in general - personal opinion), but overal is a good single-player with a co-op system attached to it. Did all the quests until the beggining of ew (still need to buy - not gonna for a long time) I'm about to quit for some time myself. Side-quests are so-so, in general, but there's always some hidden pearls. I was doing msq again to see what modifications they did and on some dungeons, but i'm kinda tired again - just reached post-arr.
The Rogue's Guild uses real world Thieves' Cant. It's not BS, it's a real thing.

I know, that's why i was forced to use a dictionary from the middle-ages. It was a nightmare as a non-english speaker, like myself.
最近の変更はbakura133が行いました; 2022年9月15日 22時10分
Will 2022年9月16日 5時04分 
ARR is a setup and backstory for a much grander tale, if you have the patience to march forward unto the future you will be rewarded.
Alexis の投稿を引用:
Thank you for your answers.
I'm actually here for the story, I'm not a recurring MMO player, so I like to read everything.
The problem is that while i am doing all MSQ and job quest, most of it is inconsequential, or I feel like they're just there to stretch out the game length.

I just would like a little more content at the gameplay level, at the moment it seems to be just key spamming, I'm not a great player and yet I didn't die once and the enemies hardly do any damage.

I'm going to try to get to where the story gets a bit better and see if it's worth it.

Most of the content through the MSQ is not very hard to pass, this is on purpose, so that people don't get stuck not being able to progress the story. The difficult content is optional.
Paroe 2022年9月16日 22時08分 
galacticcorgi の投稿を引用:
bakura133 の投稿を引用:
Ok, veteran ffxiv player here. More than 3.3k hours played and can atest there's a lot of bs moments (company of herores questline, moogletown on hw, Hildibrand Manderville's quests, post-arr, the way rogue's guild talks, lalafells in general - personal opinion), but overal is a good single-player with a co-op system attached to it. Did all the quests until the beggining of ew (still need to buy - not gonna for a long time) I'm about to quit for some time myself. Side-quests are so-so, in general, but there's always some hidden pearls. I was doing msq again to see what modifications they did and on some dungeons, but i'm kinda tired again - just reached post-arr.
The Rogue's Guild uses real world Thieves' Cant. It's not BS, it's a real thing.



Nir4s の投稿を引用:
As fellow sprout I feel you. In my case I've created like 6 characters and I don't thing I'll be able to get pass 35 lvl. once I buy full game.

From what I've heard base game is rough and it gets better in the later expansions so it's matter of survivng till Heavensward.

For me podcasts and videos in the background helped me a lot to endure the more boring quests.

You could also either buy story skip to 90 lvl in item shop or ignore the story and focus on quests, then rewatch cutscenes later like some ppl did. You'll definitely lose whole "journey" part of experiancing the story but at least you won't quit :/
To be clear, ARR is foundation. It's worldbuilding. Ignore all the "ARR is trash" and have realistic expectations. It's setting the stage for a world you know nothing about. They had a time crunch and weren't even sure 2.0 was gonna survive long past launch, so had to do a ton of work. There are plenty of callbacks even in EW.


Please note: The 100+ quest slog between the end of ARR and the start of HW is where most of that "world building" takes place, as the storyline of ARR prior to the slog was long winded but directed.

Once you hit the slog though, theres entire quest chains that involve nothing more than "go here go there" quests which do absolutely nothing but set up minor plot points and surrounding events of the MSQ that the average player will simply never care about enough to remember when theyre touched on again.

Thats not to say EVERY chain in the slog is like that, though, especially the last ~20 or so quests leading up to HW are lore that youre going to interact with constantly and is nice to know.
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