Alliance Raid is always Circus Tower / World of Darkness

[Saibot]

^Title and it sucks.
These two alliance raids come way too often. There should be a system that sees: "okay you had 5 circus tower in a row and therefore reduce the chance of getting it" but no... 4 Weeks of doing daily Alliance Raids and its 20/28 Times one of these two and I can't.

If I see Circus Tower or World of Darkness I rather take the penalty of 30 Minutes and move on instead of doing it again. I cant.

[Saibot]

Originally posted by Annie:

Originally posted by Saibot:

There should be a system that sees: "okay you had 5 circus tower in a row and therefore reduce the chance of getting it"

i wish that were true except for every roulette, i've gotten ktisis hyperboreia for my leveling roulette every single day for 2 weeks straight i am sick and tired of running that dungeon, its gotten to the point where i will do all my roulettes and save leveling for last knowing its going to be the same dungeon and when it is i just take the 30 rather then run it again, there over 100 dungeons in this game why do i keep getting the same damn one every single day

Exactly! I don't mind getting Circus Tower / World of Darkness once a week because its the earlierst alliance raid and therefore alot of Sprout might queue but please for the love of god stop giving it to me EVERY DAY.
It's just annoying at this point and not only for alliance / leveling - for everything.
Why isn't there a system that just prefers equal level duty roulette (if you are level 90 and queue for alliance raids, level 80 alliance raids should be higher than level 50 etc.)?

It would be such a nice experience. I don't mind helping sprouts / do the older alliance raids but every day?! no

[Ralf]

Anything that's not LotA or ST are way too hard for the casuls. People drop like flies on Angra Mainyu from Doom, Ozma needs nerf and math is way too hard.

I rather run ST for 8 more years than waste my time wiping in other raids cuz mechanics are too hard for avarage ffxiv players. I mean avarage player couldnt even beat Ran'jit in Eulmore, that's why we got Very Easy mode for solo dutys so SE wont lose money from players who suck.

[causality]

Those who dwell aloft have spoken. Let their words echo in your empty soul. Ruination is come.

[Aidenel]

I wrote this idea on the main forums as well, so I dont see why I shouldnt write it here for discussions sake:
Alliance roulette should be tiered, every 10 levels you need to have:
1) the gear required for the highest unlocked alliance raid for your level.
2) atleast the first alliance raid of the tier unlocked.

So if you just hit level 70 and you wanna do alliance roulette with that class you need an average item level of 305 and "The Royal City of Rabanastre" unlocked. You might not get it in the roulette, but the option is there.
Now lets say you get it in the roulette and you do it again the day after, now you need "The Ridorana Lighthouse" unlocked as well as an iLevel of 335. Otherwise NO ALLIANCE ROULETTE FOR YOU, unless you got a level 50-59 class left to level up.

Edit: goes without saying that if you then wanna do Alliance roulette at level 90 you need atleast the 1st tier of each previous alliance set unlocked, as well as the ilevel of 565 for the level 90 Alliance roulette.
Or you know, just buff Crystal Tower, a lot, make it fun and new.
otherwise If this keeps up, then half the population of FF will be left with Tower Brain Syndrome.

[Seera1024]

Originally posted by Lenn:

I wrote this idea on the main forums as well, so I dont see why I shouldnt write it here for discussions sake:
Alliance roulette should be tiered, every 10 levels you need to have:
1) the gear required for the highest unlocked alliance raid for your level.
2) atleast the first alliance raid of the tier unlocked.

So if you just hit level 70 and you wanna do alliance roulette with that class you need an average item level of 305 and "The Royal City of Rabanastre" unlocked. You might not get it in the roulette, but the option is there.
Now lets say you get it in the roulette and you do it again the day after, now you need "The Ridorana Lighthouse" unlocked as well as an iLevel of 335. Otherwise NO ALLIANCE ROULETTE FOR YOU, unless you got a level 50-59 class left to level up.

Edit: goes without saying that if you then wanna do Alliance roulette at level 90 you need atleast the 1st tier of each previous alliance set unlocked, as well as the ilevel of 565 for the level 90 Alliance roulette.
Or you know, just buff Crystal Tower, a lot, make it fun and new.
otherwise If this keeps up, then half the population of FF will be left with Tower Brain Syndrome.

No.

This would just mean that fewer players would do Alliance Raid Roulette as they would have too high of a chance to get one they don't want. Or they would enter and leave and fish for the Alliance Raid they want.

Just like how in MSQ roulette people will fish for the one of the two/three that gives them the most of what they want for time/effort.

That would make it worse for those higher level roulettes as now those who cheese their iLvl would either not do Alliance Raid Roulette or will leave if they get one they don't want.

While some likely do leave even now, it would be higher if you forced those who cheese to not cheese anymore.

It also hurts the players in the following situation:

Friends leveling up at different paces who want to do certain aspects of the game together.

[Saibot]

Originally posted by Seraphita:

I don't understand the issue with roulette. All we care about is the exp (of the roulette) and the tomes, no? Like, sure. Always the same ones get repetitive but roulette is for rewards.

By the way, I got the FINAL alliance raid on my last Roulette. I admit that it felt refreshing.

Thats the whole point - of course its for EXP and leveling but if its not something else from time to time its just annoying.
Its like you eating pizza for two weeks straight. First few are excellent but it falls off quickly and becomes an annoyance after the 10th time and duty roulette is the same. I don't want the same ARR Alliance raids ALL THE TIME. I want variety.

Thats the whole point of a ROULETTE or not?

[Drakzen]

I mean its better than getting the HW or SB raids and getting party wipes because no one remembers or cares to do mechanics.

[Saibot]

Originally posted by Drakzen:

I mean its better than getting the HW or SB raids and getting party wipes because no one remembers or cares to do mechanics.

I rather take this variety and see people grow then do the same mediocre alliance raids over and over again.
That's why its called ROULETTE, to change it. There is no need for a roulette with that mindset, instead queue for the lowby alliance raid for fast EXP.

[Drakzen]

Originally posted by Saibot:

Originally posted by Drakzen:

I mean its better than getting the HW or SB raids and getting party wipes because no one remembers or cares to do mechanics.

I rather take this variety and see people grow then do the same mediocre alliance raids over and over again.
That's why its called ROULETTE, to change it. There is no need for a roulette with that mindset, instead queue for the lowby alliance raid for fast EXP.

Only way to see a change is by either SE provided minimal amount of EXP for the lowest ones or by you actively promoting the higher up ones.

[GeminiEclipse]

Roulette is the name, but it's function is to fill content. You can only do what people have unlocked, or meet the requirements for.

You're going to naturally end up doing more CT than the other raids just because it's MSQ required and people intentionally remove gear or are leveling new jobs.

[Aidenel]

Originally posted by Drakzen:

Originally posted by Saibot:

I rather take this variety and see people grow then do the same mediocre alliance raids over and over again.
That's why its called ROULETTE, to change it. There is no need for a roulette with that mindset, instead queue for the lowby alliance raid for fast EXP.

Only way to see a change is by either SE provided minimal amount of EXP for the lowest ones or by you actively promoting the higher up ones.

How about this idea then.
You get exp depending on your gear score, so if you go in with a gear score of 70, you will get roulette exp as if you are level 50. this also means if you go in with a gear score below 560(the level 89 class gear) you will NOT get the level 90 roulette tomes.

[Eldritch Warden]

Originally posted by GeminiEclipse:

people intentionally remove gear

That's the problem, right there.

[Drakzen]

Originally posted by Lenn:

Originally posted by Drakzen:

Only way to see a change is by either SE provided minimal amount of EXP for the lowest ones or by you actively promoting the higher up ones.

How about this idea then.
You get exp depending on your gear score, so if you go in with a gear score of 70, you will get roulette exp as if you are level 50. this also means if you go in with a gear score below 560(the level 89 class gear) you will NOT get the level 90 roulette tomes.

They would just equip better gear once they get in thus gaining the maximum amount.

[Supreme Hentai System Lord]

Its cause people want quick and ezy XP

[Eldritch Warden]

Just make it so that you always need high ilvl, depending on your lvl. If you are level 90 you'll need 600 ilvl atm, no excuses. The ilvl requirement should always at the very least be equal to the min ilvl required by the highest alliance raid available to you at the level you are. lvl 79 ? You must have enough ilvl to enter Orbonne Monastery. Level 86 ? You must be ready to listen to some Keichi Okabe/ Masayoshi Soken crossover.