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This community is getting worse
I can't pass a day without read something like "shut the f*** up" or "duuuh your limit break is wrong, i hate you" (even in easier dungeons/raids - no extreme or savage)
Why?
This behavior made me isolate myself completely. Now i'm playing without the chat on, i don't see any effects or nicknames. Everyone is turned into something close to NPC...except that real NPCs have more empathy.
This world is a dangerous place for solo players...sometimes you have a bad day and just want to chill with this amazing atmosphere but you have idiots everywhere
Last edited by They always leave; Feb 20, 2021 @ 11:45pm
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what duty finder are you in? half the time I'm lucky if people say hello at the start

also btw, gonna need some context here....those phrases seem more like responses, as in something or someone triggered them into saying it.


especially on how strict the GM are nowadays when it comes to player behavior not many are going to risk incurring their wrath by acting like an ass to random stranger in a dungeon
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Tivz Feb 21, 2021 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by Lord Doober De La Goober MXI:
what duty finder are you in? half the time I'm lucky if people say hello at the start
Om3ga-Z3ro (Banned) Feb 21, 2021 @ 3:17am 
Another one sided story. I never had any bad reception of people being asses, can't really sympathize with you if we don't know the story on both sides.
Unholy Eve Feb 21, 2021 @ 5:18am 
WTB 2nd half of this story.
Nico Yazawa Feb 21, 2021 @ 5:23am 
>playing without chat on

"Hey, turn on your stance."

>no response and never turns stance on

>gets kicked

"WTF why did I get kicked?! People are so toxic now!"
Aylon Feb 21, 2021 @ 6:09am 
I believe him. I've literally been reported for marking people in alliance raids, didn't even say anything in the chat and somebody reported me for "being rude" because I was marking people, I assume they didn't actually but they did go afk for 10 minutes and were kicked from the party after I called them out and they ragequit.
galacticcorgi Feb 21, 2021 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Aylon:
I believe him. I've literally been reported for marking people in alliance raids, didn't even say anything in the chat and somebody reported me for "being rude" because I was marking people, I assume they didn't actually but they did go afk for 10 minutes and were kicked from the party after I called them out and they ragequit.
I have a feeling you're lying and your "marking" was trolling.
Lusus Symphonia Feb 21, 2021 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by Om3ga-Z3ro:
Another one sided story. I never had any bad reception of people being asses, can't really sympathize with you if we don't know the story on both sides.
Exactly this, even if anyone was an ass to me, I'm not fragile enough to start crying about the whole community.

Also if it's every dungeon, then you do the maths; you're quite obviously the problem.
They always leave Feb 21, 2021 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Koishi Komeiji:
>playing without chat on

"Hey, turn on your stance."

>no response and never turns stance on

>gets kicked

"WTF why did I get kicked?! People are so toxic now!"
Its not the case. I use a macro and giants icons. Most of my commendations came from a decent work as a main DRK. I play only as RDM and sometimes BLM now.
They always leave Feb 21, 2021 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by Red Monk:
Originally posted by Om3ga-Z3ro:
Another one sided story. I never had any bad reception of people being asses, can't really sympathize with you if we don't know the story on both sides.
Exactly this, even if anyone was an ass to me, I'm not fragile enough to start crying about the whole community.

Also if it's every dungeon, then you do the maths; you're quite obviously the problem.
Your commentary is exactly why this community is getting worse. We cant even complain about our problems because "we are crying" until these rude behaviors are normalized.Next I will tell my stories
Oberon Feb 21, 2021 @ 7:18am 
Originally posted by Hiraeth:
Originally posted by Red Monk:
Exactly this, even if anyone was an ass to me, I'm not fragile enough to start crying about the whole community.

Also if it's every dungeon, then you do the maths; you're quite obviously the problem.
Your commentary is exactly why this community is getting worse. We cant even complain about our problems because "we are crying" until these rude behaviors are normalized.Next I will tell my stories

Be sure to tell the whole story, and not just the parts that make you look like the victim. Because no one who makes these threads ever does that, it usually takes some prodding before they show their true colors.
Mithrya Feb 21, 2021 @ 7:28am 
I'm curious what server/DC you're on. I've been on Excalibur since I started Dec of 19 and I've maybe had 5 bad encounters the whole time I've been playing. Have nothing bad to say about Primal overall. And playing solo is fine, but maybe consider an active FC to run things with? You'll find they're more accepting of mistakes or issues than those you run into with DF.
MagicHp Feb 21, 2021 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Hiraeth:
Your commentary is exactly why this community is getting worse. We cant even complain about our problems because "we are crying" until these rude behaviors are normalized.Next I will tell my stories

And what did you expect, exactly? You post a thread about how you feel the community is getting worse with just two out of context quotes, victimizing yourself, and calling other people idiots... That sounds exactly like "crying".

Playing without the chat on is the worst thing to do, and saying that this is a dangerous place for solo players is just plain false.
Maybe if you asked why "your limit break is wrong" rather than turning the chat off you might have learned something. Or you would have been able to identify the one saying that as an aggressive player and moved on.

Isolating yourself is your own choice, but remember that this is an MMO, meant to be played with other people and mostly with people you don't know and will never encounter again after your run.
They always leave Feb 21, 2021 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by Om3ga-Z3ro:
Another one sided story. I never had any bad reception of people being asses, can't really sympathize with you if we don't know the story on both sides.
For anyone interested, i opened my profile so you can see what kind of games i played and who i am in-game (Behemoth server).
Just for a brief: ~7000 hours of Dota2, ~1.200 hours of CSGO. I know how toxicity looks like and how to void such behavior. As a experienced competitive player, i'm telling you: this kind of problem is coming to FFXIV.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/R0che0
In game profile https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/23580994/

My first case happened during Heavensward, when we are facing Niddhog. I had a terrible habit where i made use of LB as soon as he transformed into his second stage playing as DPS. A guy complained about that, and i completely understood and stopped. I recognize i was wrong and learned from it. In trials and intense battles against one boss with multiple stages/forms/mechanism, you need to be careful about that. The party will face the same ugly guy for many minutes (15~25min). Any mistake will be highly punished by the game. A LB3 for healers is always useful in such scenarios.

As the game goes on, the same happened in Stormblood. You see, the boss was not that hard, we had LB3 and no one used for a huge amount of HP. When the boss reached 10%, i made use of it. People complained because a magical DPS should not use LB on boss...damnt

Then i didn't worried anymore because i noticed that YOU can use LB3 as ranged DPS if no one else is using it. Why you should not use something that is suppose to make your life easier? no one died, the thing was there and no one was using it.

The recently case was a shame. My friend finally reached the end game, yaaay!
I started to play after him and i reached the end of Stormblood some months before he even started to play Heavensward. He was excited about Shadowbringers because of OST and atmosphere of many printscreens, etc. During our second NIER Raid, everything was right and fun, many people there was a beginner. As the raid goes on, he started to make some comments about visuals and mechanisms. During Compound boss, he said "This is finally the moment 'this is not even my final form...?'" and a guy just said 'JUST THE Fck UP!' dude...you can block or silence players you know? and some people was talking to him nicely before. He stopped, astonished.
When the boss reached the second form, you know what happens. She start to teleport more and you need to be careful if you'll cast something. One of our alliance didn't died at any moment so i supposed that they are very experienced and maybe a static group. When the boss reached 19%, i casted the LB3 as a RDM. One of our guys complained about it, 'stupid RDM ruined our game' and another person joined him. WHY? When someone died, i helped to raise, i helped to heal, i did nothing wrong and the alliance B casted it too when she stopped to move.

The problem is that we have many people that want to impose her own style or strategy. If you are playing at the extreme/savage level, you are supposed to find a static group and create strategies to beat these challenges. Why do you complain about random people even when everything is alright in normal dungeons/raids?
Is always this fight for EGO, dude, it's not because never happened to you that never happened to anyone else. Stop being this kid of person, you are not helping.
If you see anything like that, please, be someone nice. I already give up because i know where this is going, but if i was a new player, i would hate it and maybe i would quit this game.

And yes, i know meele DPS is better against boss, but not one remember to use that, in the end, i never ruined a run because of LB, but they always complain like is the end of the world. This, and anything else.
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They always leave Feb 21, 2021 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by mai_lynn:
I'm curious what server/DC you're on. I've been on Excalibur since I started Dec of 19 and I've maybe had 5 bad encounters the whole time I've been playing. Have nothing bad to say about Primal overall. And playing solo is fine, but maybe consider an active FC to run things with? You'll find they're more accepting of mistakes or issues than those you run into with DF.
I tried to Join 3 FCs. They ruined for different reasons. I give up.
Thank you for your tip.
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