So I tried WoW.

[LeftPaw]

I thought I would give WoW a try. So many people play it I thought it must have something.
The one thing it has done for me is appreciate FFXIV more. It's light years ahead of WoW.

I honestly don't know why so many play wow, now that you have far better options.

[RopeDrink]

The fact they had to re-do WoW's levelling experience so that it makes some semblance of sense along with the recent stat-squish says a lot. Back in the day, you'd have to push for 120 with an unfocused freedom. You could get to X level in content post-Garrosh death, then go back to MoP where he was alive, and so on. No cohesion at all - and in 9/10 cases, people would just spam dungeons all day as it was much quicker than wandering around the massive world. Now, it's more streamlined, but not much different to how FFXIV handles it.

That isn't saying FFXIV's is better. One of the great weaknesses of FFXIV is the slow-burn that is ARR, but at least new players have a clear goal and can level very easily just by pushing the story, with a wealth of ways to level up all the other classes (which does NOT involve levelling a whole new character from absolute scratch that is completely separate from the other. Sure, you can still boil it down to dungeon spam, or daily roulette, POTD, or Bozja, or leves, or whatever method you prefer, but it's not much different now. Arguably, there are more options here, and it was never harder than WoW.

I play both. Some people won't like X and some people won't like Y. There's no point asking about the how's or why's because you may as well be asking why Joe Soap's favourite colour isn't your own. It's all relevant/subjective.

Having said that, I enjoy going from WoW to FFXIV more than the reverse, because WoW wants you playing all the time (and burns out a lot quicker), whereas FFXIV is less pressured and with more meaningful things to push for. After my spat in Shadowlands and being reduced to logging in just to handle weekly reknown, I had a blast catching up on 5.4 content and now working on gearing my retainers, crafting all kinds of sets for all my levelled classes, working on my main's gear, firmament, checking out Bozja for the first time, and various other things.

Those too will burn out in time, so I can always fall back on WoW as a break from here, but it won't be quite the same. I know I'll end up just spamming M+, working on my weekly chest, and making sure my main+alts have capped renown.

I like both games - but each and every one of us play them for different reasons. It's odd to think or act like someone else is wrong in some way for liking one more than another just because their reasons don't apply to the other person.

[Jin-]

I agree with you about the leveling in WoW vs FFXIV @parent child bowl
Here its the most tedious and boring leveling out of any major MMO imo

old.school の投稿を引用：

Here is a recent yt vid of addon reviews if you want to get an idea of whats available. I think www.wowinterface.com is the site people are still using to get their addons and you can see a whole lot more there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxjkcv_7m68

Addons are the worst thing ever happened to WoW.

[meeesj]

WetNose の投稿を引用：

I thought I would give WoW a try. So many people play it I thought it must have something.
The one thing it has done for me is appreciate FFXIV more. It's light years ahead of WoW.

I honestly don't know why so many play wow, now that you have far better options.

If you said this during 2.X i would wholeheartedly agree with you. If you said this during 3.X i would agree even more.

This game has only gone downhill after HW, primarily to cater more and more to the smooth brains and sh*tters that seem prominent in this community.

This is perfectly reflected by the fact that shadowbringers, the most homogenized and dumbed down expansion which has been an absolute joke in terms of proper content, is the most well recieved and praised expansion yet

[Jin-]

Meeesj の投稿を引用：

WetNose の投稿を引用：

I thought I would give WoW a try. So many people play it I thought it must have something.
The one thing it has done for me is appreciate FFXIV more. It's light years ahead of WoW.

I honestly don't know why so many play wow, now that you have far better options.

If you said this during 2.X i would wholeheartedly agree with you. If you said this during 3.X i would agree even more.

This game has only gone downhill after HW, primarily to cater more and more to the smooth brains and sh*tters that seem prominent in this community.

This is perfectly reflected by the fact that shadowbringers, the most homogenized and dumbed down expansion which has been an absolute joke in terms of proper content, is the most well recieved and praised expansion yet

Sadly people like these https://i.redd.it/dg6csk4vwfk21.png bring more money to the companies. That also means that the games eventually are turning to toddler level challenge due to these people choosing Intelligence level 1 when creating their characters

[old.school]

WetNose の投稿を引用：

A couple of major annoyances. It keeps nagging me to wear level 12 gear when I'm only level 10 and navigating Orgrimmar is a effin nightmare. I spend a half hour getting to the stables but couldn't progress because I was suppose to take my effin guide with me.

I know it's not suppose to hold your hand but I could do without the dirty tricks.
My only options now are to spend another half hour backtracking with this stupid open bag and character tutorial poo flying across my screen.
I guess they rushed the new start for the game.

hmm...at character creation did you choose the Exiles Reach start by chance? That is the new player starting area that was added i think just this past year or so. If that is the one you were doing then you are right and it might need a bit more tweaking.

If at character creation you pick the option that is not Exiles Reach you do older starting area which doesn't have as much handholding or the tutorial poo that clogs your screen. I havent dont the Exiles Reach yet cause i prefer the older starting areas. But for the older starting areas you get race specific areas. If you pick the demon hunter and death knight classes, regardless of race you all share a unique starting zone. Then after its complete you go to your faction capital. Since you are new you wont have access to the allied races yet, but if you decide to unlock them the allied races start at like level 10 and they start right at Org for horde or Stormwind for alliance.

Ohh and also if you want to play the game the way it was in 2004-2005 at the Blizzard launcher on the bottom left close to where the PLAY button is you can change the game version from World of Warcraft to World of Warcraft Classic.

[Sgt. Magnusson]

Meeesj の投稿を引用：

WetNose の投稿を引用：

I thought I would give WoW a try. So many people play it I thought it must have something.
The one thing it has done for me is appreciate FFXIV more. It's light years ahead of WoW.

I honestly don't know why so many play wow, now that you have far better options.

If you said this during 2.X i would wholeheartedly agree with you. If you said this during 3.X i would agree even more.

This game has only gone downhill after HW, primarily to cater more and more to the smooth brains and sh*tters that seem prominent in this community.

This is perfectly reflected by the fact that shadowbringers, the most homogenized and dumbed down expansion which has been an absolute joke in terms of proper content, is the most well recieved and praised expansion yet

Oh no! A company caters to the majority of its playerbase! What a bad move! Should instead cater to the 1% of greasy tryhards whose greatest life achievement is beating a hard raid by following a guide someone else made for them.

[old.school]

WetNose の投稿を引用：

I got into the main meat of WoW and after about a hour I gave up. It was extremely simplistic quests were you found yourself waiting around for spawns most of the time.

I'm back playing FF and loving it.

Didn't see this until after i posted my previous reply.

The leveling experience is really basic. Quests, dungeons, pvp maybe pet battles. You dont get to do "adventure zones" until a much higher level. But even then those are just repeatable quests. It doesn't really have leveling events like FFXIV or GW2 has. Some of the past expacs had a few decent adventure zones or events, but now the adventure zones are just a bunch of repeatable quests it seems like.

Me personally, the reason i prefer WoW over FFXIV is the class mechanics alone. New expacs dont interest me anymore. i'm an altoholic so i've been there and dont that a bunch of times already on the old zones that i do like. I used to like raids but a long absence caused me to loose interest in them. I would still do dungeons if people weren't such a-holes to one another. So its just the class mechanics that keep me in. If FFXIV's early class mechanics were a bit more fun to me i'd be here a lot more often i think.

[SirSill]

If you haven't played all expansions in chronological order, your opinion doesn't count anyway

[Ganz]

There is a large population of role players that stick to WoW mostly due to the fact that they allow add-ons, making it much easier to facilitate that kind of play. That would at least contribute to a portion of people who swear by WoW through thick and thin. Granted, I find the rp scene more immersive in FFXIV, despite it being a bit harder to find.

[Fhaerron]

Well, I've been playing WoW since 2006, still play it.
And FF I play since 2014.

Nothing stops me from playing both and enjoying them.

[LeftPaw]

Fhaerron の投稿を引用：

Well, I've been playing WoW since 2006, still play it.
And FF I play since 2014.

Nothing stops me from playing both and enjoying them.

Fully agree. I am playing ESO, FFXIV, and GW2. Depends what mood I'm in which one gets booted up.
It's a great system as you don't get burned out playing mmo's.

[Nico Yazawa]

Jin- の投稿を引用：

Meeesj の投稿を引用：

If you said this during 2.X i would wholeheartedly agree with you. If you said this during 3.X i would agree even more.

This game has only gone downhill after HW, primarily to cater more and more to the smooth brains and sh*tters that seem prominent in this community.

This is perfectly reflected by the fact that shadowbringers, the most homogenized and dumbed down expansion which has been an absolute joke in terms of proper content, is the most well recieved and praised expansion yet

Sadly people like these https://i.redd.it/dg6csk4vwfk21.png bring more money to the companies. That also means that the games eventually are turning to toddler level challenge due to these people choosing Intelligence level 1 when creating their characters

A lot of people I know, including myself, have moved on. Playing other things. So tired of the overemphasis on omegacasual content that I see no point in. Even Endwalker getting "Stardew Valley" mode as some article I saw put it, I'm not gonna pay 20 a month to play a Stardew Valley mode when I could literally be playing Harvest Moon, Rune Factory, or hell, Stardew itself.

I don't pay 20 a month to play mahjong, even if I knew how to play it, there's cheaper better places.

Never was an Ultimate raider myself, attempted TEA, beat Pepsiman and I'm happy enough with that, "could" probably beat it with enough time and effort, but at the end of the day that's time and effort I'd prefer spending elsewhere. ShB is only even getting 1 Ultimate , the 2nd got cancelled. Ishgard taking so much attention away and that's just glorified Scrips turn ins we've had since HW.

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

Koishi Komeiji の投稿を引用：

A lot of people I know, including myself, have moved on.

Lol no you have not, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

Would like to point out that he cries that SE caters to the actual playerbase and cries that they only added 1 Ultimate this expansion but haven't even completed that said Ultimate and is content that he could only beat Pepsiman and not the entire thing.

[Paprika]

wow after legion is a joke to me. (played since from release until BFA). FFO is only traditional mmo to play in my opinion. maybe it's last of them.