New MMO dead? alive? worth playing?

[[TLF] SoggyNapkiin]

looking for a new mmo to pout some hardcore time into, i know this game is old and this may be asking a lot out of the game. was just curious how the community is in general. Is it "Dead" are queues going to take forever? Pvp worth it? End game content fun?

EDIT: I have reached lvl 20 on my first toon and so far worth every penny. TY for the replies.

[Taran Tatsuuchi]

It's one of the currently successful subscription mmos.
It has a new expansion releasing in November.
It is certainly far from dead.

Queues will depend on role, Tank/Healer tend to pop quite fast, dps not so fast.

I'm not particularly into pvp.

[smokey57]

Current WoW players- 4-5 million. Current FF 14 players, ~22 million. Do the math.

[The Grimm Reefer]

Messaggio originale di smokey57:

Current WoW players- 4-5 million. Current FF 14 players, ~22 million. Do the math.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxuna944dls

[Drakzen]

Games very much alive with a new expansion coming in about 5 months. Pvp isn't that good in this game and more focus is on the games PVE content.

[causality]

Messaggio originale di smokey57:

Current WoW players- 4-5 million. Current FF 14 players, ~22 million. Do the math.

I would wager most of those players are only subbed for TBC classic, retail is a disgrace.

[BigCatRob]

Messaggio originale di SoggyNapkiin:

looking for a new mmo to pout some hardcore time into, i know this game is old and this may be asking a lot out of the game. was just curious how the community is in general. Is it "Dead" are queues going to take forever? Pvp worth it? End game content fun?

This game is one of the best selling MMOs out there currently.

That being said...

- The community in-game is relatively tame and friendly for the most part however you will surely encounter some toxic ones from time to time. This is also wholly dependant on which Data Center and World you decide to make home in.

- Queue times can be boiled down to, "It'll take a bit if you queue as DPS, Near instant if you rock a Healer or Tank". My advice if you want to roll as DPS starting out if you don't want to wait about 10 or so minutes for dungeon queues and the like? Make some friends, join a Free Company (This games version of player owned guilds) that's fairly active and has people willing to help you on the journey!

- PvP outside of anything related to "The Feast", and even then there isn't too much to be said, simply exists. Basically everyone is throwing their bodies at one another and a slew of randoms more than likely just doing it for the dailies and the like, it honestly makes for an absolute mess most of the time.

-Endgame content can be summed up as "How much damage you can deal and can you perform the mechanics when they come up?". Don't get me wrong all the fights are really cool to do and stuff, but all the "hard" endgame fights is just about pattern dancing and dealing enough damage to the boss before their set hidden timer goes to 0 and does a party instant wipe. Sounds easy enough on paper, stupidly hard when actually attempting to run. Also look into having a static group when doing the content as well.

[Grahf]

Messaggio originale di smokey57:

Current WoW players- 4-5 million. Current FF 14 players, ~22 million. Do the math.

So wrong lmao.

https://mmo-population.com/top/2021
FFXIV is even being beaten by Runescape if you combine OSRS and RS3 lol.

[Artvisitor]

Messaggio originale di Grahf:

Messaggio originale di smokey57:

Current WoW players- 4-5 million. Current FF 14 players, ~22 million. Do the math.

So wrong lmao.

https://mmo-population.com/top/2021
FFXIV is even being beaten by Runescape if you combine OSRS and RS3 lol.

Not sure where the person you replied to got his information but your logic is equally dubious.

If you combine 2 popular mmos you can get more people than in 1 popular mmo? Shocking?

Also, not sure why people would care about the total number of accounts instead of the number of active players. FF14 is the most active mmo at the moment, according to that site.

https://mmo-population.com/activity

[Oberon]

Messaggio originale di Grahf:

Messaggio originale di smokey57:

Current WoW players- 4-5 million. Current FF 14 players, ~22 million. Do the math.

So wrong lmao.

https://mmo-population.com/top/2021
FFXIV is even being beaten by Runescape if you combine OSRS and RS3 lol.

Where the hell did that site get nearly 120 million WoW players from? Blizzard doesn't even advertise that many, and every "join xx million players" ad for every MMO is all about inflating the numbers as much as humanly possible

[Aeskul]

Do answer ops question again: the game is definitely not dead (dps queue times can take some time depending on what youre doing thouhg), pvp was never really popular to begin with, and may take some time to find a group (especially with the feast), and endgame content is fun.

Also, if difficult endgame instances are not your cup of tea, there are also many other things you can do during the endgame, like relic weapon grinds.

[smokey57]

Messaggio originale di Artvisitor:

Messaggio originale di Grahf:

So wrong lmao.

https://mmo-population.com/top/2021
FFXIV is even being beaten by Runescape if you combine OSRS and RS3 lol.

Not sure where the person you replied to got his information but your logic is equally dubious.

If you combine 2 popular mmos you can get more people than in 1 popular mmo? Shocking?

Also, not sure why people would care about the total number of accounts instead of the number of active players. FF14 is the most active mmo at the moment, according to that site.

https://mmo-population.com/activity

They get the '114 million total players' statistic from all of the tens of millions of undeleted necro account toon data still gathering dust on their servers, many of which haven't been actually subbed or played in over a decade or more.

[Jin-]

mmo-population is hoax. Same as marketing this game having 22 million players, it's intentionally made to look positive but everyone with common sense should know it's not true in the slightest.

That would be the same as super market reporting every visitor in their existence as active customer

[Mam]

Imagine comparing MMORPG games by their player numbers, knowing that many, and by many, i meant a lot of botters and currency farmers are being counted too.

BTW, if you compare this game to other MMO on steam, it's still the 2nd best out of 4.

Usually pop wise is
1. BDO
2. FFXIV
3. ESO
4. Albion

ESO will soar through the sky beating FFXIV when there's a sale, just like weeks ago, and then plummet down to its usual pop.

FFXIV's PvP is pretty much dead except you que at peak times/reset time. FFXIV's population is way higher since they region block some SEA countries such as Philippine, Indonesia, etc.

Requiring them to use VPN to register an NA/EU account which is a huge bottleneck because SQ's site can detect vpn and you need to wait for 24 hours before registering the same email if you fail, many backed down after facing this issue

Also steam's version and the standalone version is different, you can't buy DLCs from another version and apply it to your version of the game.

Finally FFXIV's editions are way cheaper than steam because they sometimes do sales and people stockpiling the gift codes resulting on cheaper price compared to buying the non sale version

[Josha]

Messaggio originale di Sad Noob:

Imagine comparing MMORPG games by their player numbers, knowing that many, and by many, i meant a lot of botters and currency farmers are being counted too.

BTW, if you compare this game to other MMO on steam, it's still the 2nd best out of 4.

Usually pop wise is
1. BDO
2. FFXIV
3. ESO
4. Albion

ESO will soar through the sky beating FFXIV when there's a sale, just like weeks ago, and then plummet down to its usual pop.

FFXIV's PvP is pretty much dead except you que at peak times/reset time. FFXIV's population is way higher since they region block some SEA countries such as Philippine, Indonesia, etc.

Requiring them to use VPN to register an NA/EU account which is a huge bottleneck because SQ's site can detect vpn and you need to wait for 24 hours before registering the same email if you fail, many backed down after facing this issue

Also steam's version and the standalone version is different, you can't buy DLCs from another version and apply it to your version of the game.

Finally FFXIV's editions are way cheaper than steam because they sometimes do sales and people stockpiling the gift codes resulting on cheaper price compared to buying the non sale version

Just curious, Where did u get that info? because iirc in terms of player population BDO doesn't come anywhere close to ffxiv. WoW and ffxiv are the current top 2 with eso/bdo at the 3rd.

[[TLF] SoggyNapkiin]

Thank you for all the replies everyone. I made a toon on Leviathan. I am enjoying it so far. Just hit lvl 20 (: