people leaving after one wipe on the new raid ;/

[Mitziete]

why

[Oberon]

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

You're the toxic casual that blames dps check enrage fails on everyone but you, you play SAM big dps, not my fault, kick the dancer, they're a dancer they are low dps. We can't clear with them.

Kind of a bold statement to make when your entire argument thus far has been "It's everyone else's fault I couldn't clear on my own skill and had to pay for someone else to carry me."

[Nico Yazawa]

引用自 The Mayor of Murder Town：

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

That's your argument. You never cleared, it's your fault.

So, imagine if I followed you everywhere doing all the content with you, if I purposefuly griefed you and caused wipes. Would you think "Wow, everytime I tried doing this content, I never cleared. It's totally my fault. I'm bad."

Because that's what you're telling me right now, ah, but of course, it's *never* your fault.

Except that's not what I'm saying at all, and changing your story so that it was some imaginary griefer to blame for your failures is a bad look.

That is EXACTLY what you're saying. You're saying if everything I go do results in fails, I'm the common denominator and the cause.

While, being the common denominator is confirmation bias, the cause couldn't be further from the truth.

You blaming, something that works perfectly. It's like if you have a fully functioning PC, one part, let's say the Graphics Card overheats and you need to replace it. The whole PC doesn't work without it. So, you throw away the whole thing? All the working parts except for the 1 faulty one?


In group content, the team is only as strong as its weakest link. It doesn't matter how good 7 other people are, if the weak link is that weak, you can't clear. Why do you think I mentioned when people do clears of Ultimate, they link their discord, they discuss everything there. They *need* to account pilot, they are not clearing Ultimate for you with 7 people and 1 corpse on the ground.

[Nico Yazawa]

引用自 The Mayor of Murder Town：

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

You're the toxic casual that blames dps check enrage fails on everyone but you, you play SAM big dps, not my fault, kick the dancer, they're a dancer they are low dps. We can't clear with them.

Kind of a bold statement to make when your entire argument thus far has been "It's everyone else's fault I couldn't clear on my own skill and had to pay for someone else to carry me."

You're really hung up on that. I guess to moral grandstand and hide your own skeletons in the closet, huh?

[Oberon]

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

引用自 Aylon：

Well not exactly. You couldn't clear with 7 other people, while clearing Emerald with 1 person is currently impossible. You're a quitter Koishi just admit it.

Look man, if I wanted to wipe for several hours because trap parties filled the PF for Duty Incomplete, or if I could pay to get into the VIP club, I will. I'll make that money back faster than the time I waste with bad parties.

Everyone loves to laugh it up "lolol you had to buy a clear" it was a shortcut, I had 2 options
1. Continously wipe because of bad parties because I came back to the game late, meaning everyone good was already just doing farm parties (which didn't allow Duty Incomplete people)
2. Wait a long ass time until it gets nerfed with echo and people's ilvl makes the fight a joke


I wanted the mount sooner rather than later, so while I'm 100% sure everyone here would opt for number 2, I went with 1.

You're the toxic casual that blames dps check enrage fails on everyone but you, you play SAM big dps, not my fault, kick the dancer, they're a dancer they are low dps. We can't clear with them.

That's you.

[Your Friend Jesus]

I don't know what data centre you're on but I don't ever really run into these issues on Japanese ones.

[Nico Yazawa]

引用自 The Mayor of Murder Town：

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

You're the toxic casual that blames dps check enrage fails on everyone but you, you play SAM big dps, not my fault, kick the dancer, they're a dancer they are low dps. We can't clear with them.

That's you.

Ohhhhh?~ Are you blaming wipes on the healer not dpsing enough? Sounds TOXIC to me~

Or, are you gonna backpedal now that you said something dumb?

[Oberon]

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

引用自 The Mayor of Murder Town：

Ohhhhh?~ Are you blaming wipes on the healer not dpsing enough? Sounds TOXIC to me~

Or, are you gonna backpedal now that you said something dumb?

No, I'm saying it's funny that you call it being a "toxic casual" to blame the rest of the party, when you've been blaming every party you couldn't clear with.

[Oberon]

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

You died? Wowee, looks like I did better than you. I researched and perfected the fight and never died because it's not that hard of a fight, you're right.

But try that fight with 7 sandbags. Not so easy.

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

You're the toxic casual that blames dps check enrage fails on everyone but you, you play SAM big dps, not my fault, kick the dancer, they're a dancer they are low dps. We can't clear with them.

[Nico Yazawa]

引用自 The Mayor of Murder Town：

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

Ohhhhh?~ Are you blaming wipes on the healer not dpsing enough? Sounds TOXIC to me~

Or, are you gonna backpedal now that you said something dumb?

No, I'm saying it's funny that you call it being a "toxic casual" to blame the rest of the party, when you've been blaming every party you couldn't clear with.

I mean, if the healer that does every mechanic right and never dies is being blamed, yeah.

My analogy was that the people who are quick the blame others (much like you are doing now) are usually the ones at fault.

Keyword here being usually.

Imagine a group excerise, whether it's classmates, co-workers, whatever the situation. You are in a team of 3, you each must put in 33% of the workload to complete the assignment.

A does 65% of the work
B does 20% of the work
C does 10% of the work

unfortunetly, not a completed assignment, adding up to a 95% completed project. No matter how close it may be it's not done.

Now, C might complain and say if A is so smart and good he should have done just a little bit more, we would have finished.

Is he right? Is it A's fault for not doing just that tiny bit more to bring him up to 70% of the work?

Or is B and C at fault for not even doing their EXPECTED 33%?

As far as I am concerned A did double his fair share of work, but because the other 2 did less, they failed.


See any similiarities?

[Oberon]

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

引用自 The Mayor of Murder Town：

No, I'm saying it's funny that you call it being a "toxic casual" to blame the rest of the party, when you've been blaming every party you couldn't clear with.

I mean, if the healer that does every mechanic right and never dies is being blamed, yeah.

My analogy was that the people who are quick the blame others (much like you are doing now) are usually the ones at fault.

Keyword here being usually.

"It's bad to do this, except when I do it it's okay! But it's bad when everyone else does it!"

Grow up, hypocrite. I'm not the one blaming others, you are.

[Oberon]

引用自 Koishi Komeiji：

See any similiarities?

The only similarities I see are between your rambling example and the early symptoms of a stroke.

[BigCatRob]

引用自 mitzieter IFN.GG：

why

Because too many people want easy runs with little effort in content that actually requires a slight amount of teamwork and party coordination in a MMO. It's hard to get people to even run CLL even though it's actually fairly easy. I main tanked the entirety of the thing in my first ever run of CLL, save for the first part cause of top and bottom areas in which I covered bottom tanking and coordinated HP %'s with top because that seemed like a good idea to do, and also noticed that the second and third bosses quite literally telegraph cycle their mechanics in forms of opening AoE sequences before becoming actual mechanics later on in the fight. Nothing about any of this so far is hard at all to be honest and the fact that guides are made for this just baffles me. I haven't attempted to run DR yet as I've just been aimlessly wandering Bozja for relic stuff, lockboxes, skirmishes, critical engagements, possible duels, attempts to rerun CLL for the hell of it, etc but I plan to sometime this week cause it seems pretty neat.

[Knight Wolfe]

引用自 Drakzen：

Because people want carries and are obviously highly skilled whilst the rest of us are peasants

引用自 NightShiftFur：

引用自 mitzieter IFN.GG：

why

Because too many people want easy runs with little effort in content that actually requires a slight amount of teamwork and party coordination in a MMO.

Those to comments right there.

I actually stopped playing because on top of the whole other player running after a single wipe, there is also when you need to do a dungeon the other members of your party are there only because they are doing a leveling roulette and by the holy those said players are only there for a speed run. No time for speed running, watching cut scenes. I am guessing such is the nature of MMO's as this is the first one I ever played.