They should remove the free trial

[Suddenly_A_Panda]

Some people are so entitled to "playing for free" they totally forget they're playing trials, then whine about fonctionnalities, saying their investment into the game and enjoyment depend on the limitation they face and argue they should be able to fully attest if they enjoy the game before even considering, not simply paying for it, but support the game and devs that allowed them that enjoyment in the very first place, and will try to do everything in order to circomvert an actual purchase.

I do think the ability to try a game is awesome, however, when you leave most of the main game available, people start to get entitled to paying the game for free and are even more relluctant as they can already enjoy themselves at contempt, and won't realistically feel the need to unlock their full experience.

Even now, as I was responding to some topics, one of them fell into that category, and the minute I said "from what you said, unlocking your class cap seem like what you want the most", and I was dismissed as a "passive-aggressive P2W indie not understanding what the discussion is about" and got banned from the discussion.

I feel like the balance between trial and actual free play is not managed well enough to avoid those kind of situation where somebody is so entitled to play for free, he will litterally be on the defensive when it comes to players that acutally bought the game and even go as far as to personnally attack them and try to cancel any discussion.

I feel there is something to dig there and tuning that could be made, ex, if the free trial would last a month, then they'd need a subscribtion like all of us, and could at any time remove the strict content limitation they purposelly chose to put on themselves whenever they're ready without them getting entitled to finish a free trial without any form of support and huge ammount of criticism.

[Suddenly_A_Panda]

Ik the title may seem litteral, but it's more about limiting it than removing it literrally, hoping this isn't too much of a hot topic, I just think some people restrain themselves from enjoying the full potential of the game trying to min-max something that is clearly not made for it

[Aluvian Darkstar]

let them come... people be people anyway, it's not SE fault that a lot of them act like this. there is some guy on my server literally advertising Genshin Impact by saying they have an event at their cafe stylzied based on it. maybe they will leave there and enjoy their free to play stuff

[☬ Sizzer ☬]

let them go

[aclyte]

Nah, free trial is the best thing square enix could make to advertise the game. 1% will whine about limitations, 99% will play for free the base game and some of them will buy expansions and start paying.
Guild wars 2 have the same system and it have been proved to be extremely effective. Only Blizzard is stubborn enough to not let players play it's base game for free.

[fracs]

aclyte の投稿を引用：

Nah, free trial is the best thing square enix could make to advertise the game.

Exactly!!
I hope that when the next expansion will come out SE will consider expanding the free trial content to the next old expansion which comes after HW.

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

We already getting people asking when Stormblood will be part of the free trial., there are people just waiting it out. They should not expand it because that would just attract more entitled freeloaders.

[Aegix Drakan]

If it wasn't for the free trial, I likely would not have started the game, as I've always been averse to subscription based games...

However.

In the week and a half that I've started FF14's free trial, I've started get real convinced.

Unless something happens that *completely* turns me off the game, I'm going to switch to paid as soon as one of the following happens:
1) I run out of inventory/Gil Space and decide I want more.
2) The buddy I'm playing with joins a really good and friendly FC that I also want to join.
3) I hit the end of the base game, get access to Heavensward, and decide I really really like the new classes that unlock there, and decide "You know what I've played enough to know it's worth it. I'm buying it"
4) If I fall hardcore in love with big Raids and decide this is my new online home.

So yeah, I suuuper appreciate the long-term free trial. With every passing day I play, I see more reasons to subscribe. I look forward to the day where it unequivocably makes me slap money on the table without any further thought.

[Aluvian Darkstar]

i honestly can't understand this desire of having everything for free and minmaxing f2p restrictions, and then, like some do, complain that these restirictions are too tight. everything needs to be paid for and contantly updating projects need a stable revenue so they can, well, update, get new content, etc.

[Suddenly_A_Panda]

I agree with all what's being said, the current trial is one of the best, and definitely give plenty of reasons to unlock the full experience, glad to know I may group with you guys.

But Om3ga pointed out a good point, some true F2P indie players are waiting/asking for previous expansion to become part of the "free trial" and thus devalue more content, it's not the same as waiting for the market to reach an acceptable price, it's waiting for it to be valueless, I truly believe that should not happen and that this specific expectation is an insult to the gaming industry itself. Why should playing video-games be set on "fun credit" until deserving their payment and support? This is what privilege feel like.

Like most of you guys said, we should just not give them more attention and let them figure out how to really min/max their videoludic experience, giving them tips or arguing with them actually just fuel their behavior, and without our intervention they'll probably fall back to playing their Emulators saying they're fine with 10-20 years old content as long as it's free, and the biggest harm they truly do is whine for more.

Thank you for sharing your viewpoint, I felt like some of us might want to share about their thought on the matter, and I'm glad to see it's done proportionatelly and with respect in mind ^^

[DaniTheHero]

Imagine not allowing free users to add friends or send party invites.
And even if a paid user adds you to friends instead, you can’t whisper them, or even return a whisper if they do nor can you invite them to party then.

These restrictions are moronic and encourage solo play through the entire trial, in an MMORPG that already has less communication in the “open world”.

The argument of “this helps against bots” is just not true, as these features aren’t being abused by bots.
Which is why these restrictions don’t exist in GW2 free period.

Which means these restrictions are either completely arbitrary or made intentionally to frustrate users to buy the game early so they could actually play with people.

[Etraux]

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

Imagine not allowing free users to add friends or send party invites.
And even if a paid user adds you to friends instead, you can’t whisper them, or even return a whisper if they do nor can you invite them to party then.

These restrictions are moronic and encourage solo play through the entire trial, in an MMORPG that already has less communication in the “open world”.

The argument of “this helps against bots” is just not true, as these features aren’t being abused by bots.
Which is why these restrictions don’t exist in GW2 free period.

Which means these restrictions are either completely arbitrary or made intentionally to frustrate users to buy the game early so they could actually play with people.

They are not 'free users'. They are 'trial users'. It's not a free game, it's a trial.

[GeminiEclipse]

Trials often have a lot of limits. A paid player can add a trial player to a party. And a person can use party chat to chat with people in their party.

You know Dani. The very behavior you blame FF14 players from doing, which is only being able to look at how "perfect" FF14 is, is the same behavior you show here for GW2.

[DaniTheHero]

GeminiEclipse の投稿を引用：

Trials often have a lot of limits. A paid player can add a trial player to a party. And a person can use party chat to chat with people in their party.

You know Dani. The very behavior you blame FF14 players from doing, which is only being able to look at how "perfect" FF14 is, is the same behavior you show here for GW2.

GW2 is far from perfect.

I’m completely fine with trial limits.
I have been only complaining about the social restrictions (party/friends/returned whispers).
I only brought up GW2 to this argument because people keep saying it’s to combat bots which isn’t true as they don’t exist there and it works fine.
The last thing bots are gonna do is spam invite people to parties
Nor can a bot abuse RETURNING a whisper.

[Walkerk19]

I caught several RMT sellers in FFXIV spamming ad. Thank God, they can only spam /say. And I just report them anyway

From my experience with F2P MMO with Neverwinter, the annoying ones will actually spam whisper you for ad. Worse spam chat globally in cities. One time I got griefed by spam invites while in dungeon. Which should be bannable offense, but griefers can just create new account and spam anyway.

The chat limitation in FFXIV is actually refreshing. I see less RMT agents in this game compared to other MMOs that are F2P

[GeminiEclipse]

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

GeminiEclipse の投稿を引用：

Trials often have a lot of limits. A paid player can add a trial player to a party. And a person can use party chat to chat with people in their party.

You know Dani. The very behavior you blame FF14 players from doing, which is only being able to look at how "perfect" FF14 is, is the same behavior you show here for GW2.

GW2 is far from perfect.

I’m completely fine with trial limits.
I have been only complaining about the social restrictions (party/friends/returned whispers).
I only brought up GW2 to this argument because people keep saying it’s to combat bots which isn’t true as they don’t exist there and it works fine.
The last thing bots are gonna do is spam invite people to parties
Nor can a bot abuse RETURNING a whisper.

And we who play FF14 know the game is far from perfect as well.

Returning a whisper isn't for bots. Sending a whisper is for bots.