People who complain about tanks that single pull

[Oku]

If it's anything other than level 80 dungeons where everybody has mentor crowns, shut the ♥♥♥♥ up.

The reason so many people play DPS over healers and tanks is because people like you whine and grumble and cry like children because you aren't getting a world record parse/clear time in sastasha with a sprout tank and a sprout healer.

People learn at their own pace, people might not know a dungeon, people might be new to tanking in general, they might be in an FC or discord call with the healer who asked to go slow.

Most tanks start out with slow small pulls and gradually increase over time just to make sure the healer can keep up.

Even if a tank single pulls the entire dungeon, dungeons in FF14 don't last very long. If you don't like it, queue for tank yourself, otherwise sit down and shut up.

[Jin-]

Ok lol, but tank should learn multipack pull after ARR. At that point the dungeons are designed for that and the tanks and healers have tools to keep up with it.

They gave tanks aoe combos for this specific reason. Just a waste of everyones time to roleplay WoW Classic pulls

[Oku]

Originally posted by Jin-:

Ok lol, but tank should learn multipack pull after ARR. At that point the dungeons are designed for that and the tanks and healers have tools to keep up with it.

They gave tanks aoe combos for this specific reason. Just a waste of everyones time to roleplay WoW Classic pulls

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

[Tsundere Kanojo]

tbh as a DPS and healer player, I hope for tanks that mass pull

sure 1-50 (and maybe up to 60) is for learning, but they shouldn't be learning how to tank at 70

[Oku]

Originally posted by Tsundere Kanojo:

tbh as a DPS and healer player, I hope for tanks that mass pull

sure 1-50 (and maybe up to 60) is for learning, but they shouldn't be learning how to tank at 70

You don't get to determine how long it takes somebody to learn. If you don't like it, queue as a tank yourself.

End of discussion.

[Jin-]

Originally posted by Kethriss:

Originally posted by Jin-:

Ok lol, but tank should learn multipack pull after ARR. At that point the dungeons are designed for that and the tanks and healers have tools to keep up with it.

They gave tanks aoe combos for this specific reason. Just a waste of everyones time to roleplay WoW Classic pulls

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

I tank, 4 of the tank classes max. It's just incredibly selfish to single pull. Same applies to healers and dps players who single target dps in dungeons.

Tank has atleast 4 mitigation tools. They are INTENDED to be rotated.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Jin-:

Originally posted by Kethriss:

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

I tank, 4 of the tank classes max. It's just incredibly selfish to single pull. Same applies to healers and dps players who single target dps in dungeons.

Tank has atleast 4 mitigation tools. They are INTENDED to be rotated.

Originally posted by Kethriss:

Originally posted by Jin-:

Ok lol, but tank should learn multipack pull after ARR. At that point the dungeons are designed for that and the tanks and healers have tools to keep up with it.

They gave tanks aoe combos for this specific reason. Just a waste of everyones time to roleplay WoW Classic pulls

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

[DirtyMick]

As a healer I love when the tank goes for big pulls. And if they don't, I usually just ask for big pulls and they start doing it. Now if you complain about it without actually asking for big pulls, you're just being a clown. Use your words. And no I don't mean saying "omg can you go faster?!" Just ask them to pull bigger without sounding like an antisocial ass.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Turret Syndrome:

As a healer I love when the tank goes for big pulls. And if they don't, I usually just ask for big pulls and they start doing it. Now if you complain about it without actually asking for big pulls, you're just being a clown. Use your words. And no I don't mean saying "omg can you go faster?!" Just ask them to pull bigger without sounding like an antisocial ass.

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it's fine to want bigger pulls and ask for them but being a ♥♥♥♥ and whining about it is ridiculous. W2W pulls vs single pulls is a difference of just a few short minutes and if it your time is that precious that spending those couple extra minutes in a dungeon because the tank is still figuring things out or doesn't know that particular dungeon well is enough to get you angry and come here to steam to whine and cry about it, then you shouldn't be wasting said precious time on computer games to begin with.

[Gang Weed]

Originally posted by Kethriss:

Originally posted by Jin-:

Ok lol, but tank should learn multipack pull after ARR. At that point the dungeons are designed for that and the tanks and healers have tools to keep up with it.

They gave tanks aoe combos for this specific reason. Just a waste of everyones time to roleplay WoW Classic pulls

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

Why does one person get to decide the pace of the entire party? its selfish and rude for tank mains to waste other ppl's time just becuz they can its a team game. If you wanna solo dungeons and take your time thats fine we have squadrons and trusts for that but to do it with 3 other ppl is inconsiderate and rude

[Oku]

Originally posted by Gang Weed:

Originally posted by Kethriss:

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

Why does one person get to decide the pace of the entire party? its selfish and rude for tank mains to waste other ppl's time just becuz they can its a team game. If you wanna solo dungeons and take your time thats fine we have squadrons and trusts for that but to do it with 3 other ppl is inconsiderate and rude

Originally posted by Kethriss:

Originally posted by Jin-:

Ok lol, but tank should learn multipack pull after ARR. At that point the dungeons are designed for that and the tanks and healers have tools to keep up with it.

They gave tanks aoe combos for this specific reason. Just a waste of everyones time to roleplay WoW Classic pulls

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

[Overlord]

Originally posted by Kethriss:

Originally posted by Gang Weed:

Why does one person get to decide the pace of the entire party? its selfish and rude for tank mains to waste other ppl's time just becuz they can its a team game. If you wanna solo dungeons and take your time thats fine we have squadrons and trusts for that but to do it with 3 other ppl is inconsiderate and rude

Originally posted by Kethriss:

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

As a tank main in WoW, tanks DO in fact control the pace of the dungeon, the tank is the core of any one group, if a tank goes slow then the dungeon will take time, if the tank pulls the entire dungeon, it will be slow. A tank should pull a reasonable amount to pace at a decent rate in which your healer can keep up, same with the dps.

AoE spells are pretty ♥♥♥♥ in terms of overall damage and you only get 2 dps.

[Prankman]

You know, just saying "end of discussion" to try and shut down any and all dissenting opinions is actually pretty childish. Maybe try making an actual argument instead of stomping your feet?

[Overlord]

Originally posted by Jin-:

Originally posted by Kethriss:

You don't dictate the pace at which people learn. If you don't like it, tank yourself.

End of discussion.

I tank, 4 of the tank classes max. It's just incredibly selfish to single pull. Same applies to healers and dps players who single target dps in dungeons.

Tank has atleast 4 mitigation tools. They are INTENDED to be rotated.

Believe it or not, in smaller pulls some times single target dps IS faster because the AoEs are intentionally weak to compensate for the group damage. As a dps in this (specifically BLM) I noticed that pulls go that much faster if its single target dps in small groups of enemies vs groups of 10 (or more) enemies.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Prankman:

You know, just saying "end of discussion" to try and shut down any and all dissenting opinions is actually pretty childish. Maybe try making an actual argument instead of stomping your feet?

I already made the actual argument and any complaints to the contrary are ridiculous. There is no discussion here. If you throw a fit about people single pulling in anything other than full level 80 mentor groups in end game content, you're in the wrong. Objectively.

[Bomoo]

Originally posted by Kethriss:

If it's anything other than level 80 dungeons where everybody has mentor crowns, shut the ♥♥♥♥ up.

Couldn't have put it better myself.