Check your DPS.

[Diablo2604]

I know that DPS meters are frowned upon in FFXIV community, but how do you benchmark yourself in group instances? How do i know if i'm slacking in a raid or if i'm popping off?

[zennight]

DPS meters are more of a grey area, you can use them just don't impose the information on them to others in the game.

[Oku]

They aren’t frowned on, the most common is ACT. What’s frowned on, and what will get you banned, is talking about them in-game and using them to harass or berate other players.

As for how you know if you’re slacking or popping off is just clear times. “Always Be Casting”. As long as you’re at iLvL for the dungeon you’re in, and you’re using AoE’s on groups of mobs and single target DPS on everything else, and you’re doing your main combos, you’ll be doing just fine.

The only time Parses are really necessary to understand performance is max level raids and harder difficulties.

If you really really want to know, get ACT, but keep it private. If you post logs or try to berate people in-game with that data, you will be banned.

[Diablo2604]

Thank you for the information. It was very helpful :)

[Insanity Factor]

Also for a very crude "dps check" look at your agro rating in the party list. If you're below the healer on the agro list, then you're probably not being the most efficient dps. You can also see your "progress bar" towards actually pulling agro / getting on top of the party list, though this will rapidly go to zero with any kind of actual tank in the party :D

[Diablo2604]

Originally posted by Insanity Factor:

Also for a very crude "dps check" look at your agro rating in the party list. If you're below the healer on the agro list, then you're probably not being the most efficient dps. You can also see your "progress bar" towards actually pulling agro / getting on top of the party list, though this will rapidly go to zero with any kind of actual tank in the party :D

Thanks for the tip 👍

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by Insanity Factor:

Also for a very crude "dps check" look at your agro rating in the party list. If you're below the healer on the agro list, then you're probably not being the most efficient dps. You can also see your "progress bar" towards actually pulling agro / getting on top of the party list, though this will rapidly go to zero with any kind of actual tank in the party :D

This also depends on how good the healer is though. If they're doing a tonne of overhealing and putting regen where it doesn't need to be, they're gonna have a buttload of enmity.

[SpongeBooz]

why you want dps meter? to get kicked or rejectef in every single party? also 1 run per week in a guild? if you're lucky

[Diablo2604]

Originally posted by SpongeBooz:

why you want dos meter?

Just to benchmark my progress.

[Cuponoodle]

ACT and just don't talk about it the enmity list thing isn't a bad way but if you want more exact results ACT or another one and don't talk about it in game or harass those who you do better than or feel should do better.

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

Nowadays it is easy to tell if someone is doing bad or not. There is this new trend that people don't use AoE's in big pulls or if you watch their attack animations that they are not doing the correct combo pattern.

People blame for the lack of DPS meter but no that is not it, it's just knowing how your job plays and don't half ass it. I also use ACT but everyday when using it, keeps getting more and more difficult to not get annoyed by the number of people just blatantly doing ♥♥♥♥ because they want to get carried.

So, use ACT to improve yourself but be careful not to give yourself away when you see someone just there for the ride without contributing to the team, be smart about it if you need to confront them.

[Diablo2604]

Originally posted by Om3ga-Z3ro:

Nowadays it is easy to tell if someone is doing bad or not. There is this new trend that people don't use AoE's in big pulls or if you watch their attack animations that they are not doing the correct combo pattern.

People blame for the lack of DPS meter but no that is not it, it's just knowing how your job plays and don't half ass it. I also use ACT but everyday when using it, keeps getting more and more difficult to not get annoyed by the number of people just blatantly doing ♥♥♥♥ because they want to get carried.

So, use ACT to improve yourself but be careful not to give yourself away when you see someone just there for the ride without contributing to the team, be smart about it if you need to confront them.

Thanks for the advice.

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by Om3ga-Z3ro:

People blame for the lack of DPS meter but no that is not it, it's just knowing how your job plays and don't half ass it.

use ACT to improve yourself

These statements directly contradict each other.

People don't know that they don't know how their job plays because they can't see that they're doing no damage compared to their teammates. As far as they're concerned, they're clearing content therefore they must be playing correctly. If the game had damage meters, people would be aware that they aren't performing well.

IMO the game would benefit from adding damage meters but staying strict on people who use those numbers to call others out.

[Aidenel]

I benchmark myself by looking at the threat meter, the closer I am to the tank the happer I am, I even went the extra mile to block my FF logs purely to piss off the "elites".

[duEprocEss]

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

Originally posted by Om3ga-Z3ro:

People blame for the lack of DPS meter but no that is not it, it's just knowing how your job plays and don't half ass it.

use ACT to improve yourself

These statements directly contradict each other.

People don't know that they don't know how their job plays because they can't see that they're doing no damage compared to their teammates. As far as they're concerned, they're clearing content therefore they must be playing correctly. If the game had damage meters, people would be aware that they aren't performing well.

IMO the game would benefit from adding damage meters but staying strict on people who use those numbers to call others out.

I would argue that people don't know they aren't doing well because.....they don't read tool tips and use their critical thinking skills. Well, this is just one possible cause out of many.

[Diablo2604]

Originally posted by duEprocEss:

I would argue that people don't know they aren't doing well because.....they don't read tool tips and use their critical thinking skills. Well, this is just one possible cause out of many.

Wait, how can you use your abilities in a MMO, if you don't read your tool tips ? :D