Macros reqed for 50+ dungeons ?

[nobrien]

is it me or is this a thing ? im starting to get told off for not doing what everyone else is doing, yet im surviveing without macros and manageing to do most of the right things DESPITE haveing to move AND hit the right keys ect while the others seem to just be moving about and macros doing all of their other actions, AND in many cases its the first time ive been in said dungeon.

it seems to me like they are one step removed from just watching a video of someone else play a game lol, something i myself detest in new MMOs seem to be doing, turned me off WoW big time because with the so called class options in the game to play only a hand full of them where considered viable and you wouldnt get into groups.

i played DAoC for 10+ years on 3 diff servers to play all 3 realms and i had 42 chars and each of them was viable useable and usefull.

now with FF14 the dungeons are short no content its just run the same small path to finish and then boom done, that is so boreing and i cant imagine how ppl are ok with it lol.

Anyway i have played many games MMOs ect and the trend is getting worse or better ? do you like the fact that your so called content doesnt even really need your input ?

[xxxaziexxx]

Macros aren't required in any instanced content in this game. I don't actually know a single real person who macros their way through a dungeon other than adding sound and text queues to certain abilities like immunities or raises. Whoever is telling you off for not doing that is probably pretty bad since macors are often slow and break easily with any amount of latency, like Shirayuki stated.

I am sort of wondering exactly what you mean by "told off for not doing what everyone else is doing" now though. Things like not using a Tank stance when you have them available to you or not dumping aggro or using Diversion as a DPS aren't play-style choices, they just hurt your party and make content more difficult than it needs to be. If you want to do something like that, make a Party Finder for it, but definitely don't force self-imposed "challenges" like that on Duty Finder players, if that's what you're doing.

You seem to have made up your mind about instanced content in this game already however. I doubt you've actually seen Extreme trials, Savage raids, or any of the Ultimate fights yet because those absolutely require all your input. Pre-endgame content is pretty easy compared to that.

[Zaphre]

Every game has an optimal way to play. If you want to be competitive, you go meta, nothing wrong with that. Even PVE can be competitive with DPS rankings such as https://www.fflogs.com/

You may think you are playing your class right, but most often is the case, you are not.

[Lord Doober De La Goober MXI]

Macros aren't required but they do help quite a bit...(if you know how to use them)
(I.E scholar macroing their moves with Eos/Selene for better heals... or any class that wants to save on button pressing)

but...just like what azie said, are you doing in said dungeons that makes players tell you off for not "doing what everyone else is doing"?

[Elazul]

The only macro I'd ever advocate in this game would be the Swiftcast/Raise macro for Healers. Even then that is entirely optional as you can just put the two skills next to each other. Any other macro is going to harm you more than help.

[Meltankos]

Only class that would require them is Summoner (DPS) and Scholar (Healer) for their pet actions that you may need to macro them. It's the only place I see them useful tbh.

[Not Sure]

Originally posted by Shirayuki Z:

Originally posted by Meltankos:

Only class that would require them is Summoner (DPS) and Scholar (Healer) for their pet actions that you may need to macro them. It's the only place I see them useful tbh.

You really like make things oversimplistic, every job in the game can benefit from macro, some less, some more

It's been proven a few times that macros hurt dps roles, especially those with a lot of a ogcd skills, like bard. They can automate a few 2 button combos, but if you are using them for more than that, then you are doing it wrong.

Why would you need macros in FFXIV anyways? It's not like this has fast or complex combat.

[Akkarin]

Originally posted by Elazul:

The only macro I'd ever advocate in this game would be the Swiftcast/Raise macro for Healers. Even then that is entirely optional as you can just put the two skills next to each other. Any other macro is going to harm you more than help.

I would NOT recommend that, I had multiple times where the macro broke and I just got a swiftcast without raise, it's very frustrating when it happens

[nobrien]

ok good to see the diversity here seems to be mostly against full macro use, but sometimes im unable to see the AoE buildups bosses-mobs use because of how i have to be sitting with the camera to see what my char is doing and that means i get popped.

[xxxaziexxx]

Originally posted by nobrien:

ok good to see the diversity here seems to be mostly against full macro use, but sometimes im unable to see the AoE buildups bosses-mobs use because of how i have to be sitting with the camera to see what my char is doing and that means i get popped.

If you want to be able to see AOE's as clearly as possible, you're gonna have to zoom out.

[SirSmellz]

Ive never used macros

[Stevie Wonder]

the only time I use a macro is for ground targeted aoe skills. I have it setup so when I push the button it automatically places it under the target for me. no need to mind my mouse over there and click

[Tivz]

Originally posted by Stevie Wonder:

the only time I use a macro is for ground targeted aoe skills. I have it setup so when I push the button it automatically places it under the target for me. no need to mind my mouse over there and click

this could be useful thinking about it