Wtf is with the levelling in this game??

[Goblin Lord]

Been playing for a few days for hours on end doing MSQ and all daily roulettes, got 5 levels from 50-54, and i gotta get 70/80, in BDO which people say is more grindy i can reach the softcap level of 61 from lvl 1 in a few solid days of grinding and carry on doing what i find fun, because who in their right mind enjoys levelling in games(Unless you have no brain), i hear all these ffxiv sweats say its not slow because they played some game decades ago that took years(exaggeration) to level.

Guild wars 2 for exampl, levelling was slow as ♥♥♥♥ but atleast you got to farm tomes of knowledge on your main toons to level alts, why do i have to grind for weeks(more if you have a life) on end to experience the content everyone says is so amazing when i have to slog through all this low level ♥♥♥♥, sure the quests and story are interesting and can keep me occupied but boy am i tired of repeating all these ♥♥♥♥ low level dungeons and trials that lock my skills away so they're not even fun doing and i have no sense of even getting stronger as a character(so much for an rpg when i always just feel weak), all just so i can get a tiny slither of xp.

But wait there's more!, this is only while im still playing through MSQ, how ♥♥♥♥ing slow and boring is it going to be to level a fresh alt? like are you kidding me? to be honest i wouldnt be too mad if sync didnt take my skills away it wouldnt be that bad grinding low level ♥♥♥♥ because atleast you'll have new skills to play with, but nope, they take them away because woo that is what fun is about, oh but wait you can just Q your highest level dungeon? what so i can wait 20-30 mins? lmfao, or maybe 40+ mins off peak? because of the dumb role trinity ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t and nobody wants to play healer and tank because they get flamed if they ♥♥♥♥ up, why when you can just sit and spam skills as dps and not be bothered.

This game is a complete joke for new players and is why this game will die, who tf wants to play through this boring ♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ for weeks just to get to the good stuff? im currently using the 8 days of free game time to try get some levels and experience the content but at this rate i am probably not going to resub and put this game in the trash, probably the most new player un-friendly game i have played.

EDIT:
Because people seem to either not read or misunderstand, i don't hate levelling nor i dislike grinding, every game i play is a grindfest pretty much, this is MY personal opinion, i'm venting because im bored and not exactly looking for a resolution unless there's any tips on quick levelling for my future characters, in MY opinion i don't think being forced to do story and being timegated by dungeons especially when DPS Qs can take up to an hour for specific dungeons is a fun way to play, so for me it seems like a long time because i don't enjoy the way i have to level, the only reason im mentioning BDO and GW2 is because thats the other main MMOs i spent many hours on, im not comparing the games im only comparing the leveling experience that i had, BDO for the freedom it gives you and GW2 for the alternative ways of levelling aka tomes of knowledge, i'm just wondering why something that calls itself an MMORPG nowadays has such a lack of freedom, i just feel like im playing a linear singleplayer game that is made up of fetch quests and talking to NPCs, theres no skill builds, no interesting gear builds every person that plays a class plays the EXACT same, there's no difference, because of sync taking away skills, everyone is the EXACT same, want to get anywhere you HAVE to do these quests and Q for dungeons nobody wants to do with 40 min DPS Q times, but obviously this might just not be the game for me and there's people who enjoy playing like this but since im more of a new generation gamer im too used to modern mechanics and most modern MMOs and other games being sandboxy of sorts.

[Nico Yazawa]

Escrito originalmente por Hellbound Heart:

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

This game has 2 types of players.

Raidloggers because lack of content to do.

social MMOer's who treat it like VRchat.

And those who get banned for cheating like you did.

Funny. Too funny.

Never got reported. Never got banned.

Cool assumption though, 10/10. Troll harder.

[Mandodo]

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

Escrito originalmente por Hellbound Heart:

And those who get banned for cheating like you did.

Funny. Too funny.

Never got reported. Never got banned.

Cool assumption though, 10/10. Troll harder.

Hey, you can lie to me all day long but don't lie to yourself.

[treos100]

me: main is monk, currently lvl 55

queue times for duties is anywhere from 15-120+ minutes... (JUST because i don't play tank or healer since the duty queue system is very heavily biased against DPS role)

considering lvling, not an alt character, but other classes and... -_- finish the hall of the novice for the exp boosting ring...good till lvl 30 on whatever class has it equipped...

after that...yeah, your exp rate is going to tank if you don't rely primarily on the roulettes...and even then, your exp grinding is going to be downright abysmal when grinding DPS classes even if using the roulettes.

levequests are for crafting classes specifically...

blue mage lvls ridiculously fast out in the field but can only do unsynced duty runs.

exp wise ffxiv has DPS classes but is VERY heavily biased against them. people seem to just do tank/healer when they need to and otherwise don't which just destroys queue times for everything in general.

maybe if you could queue unsynced parties...but nooo...gotta rely on an automated system with a bias.

[treos100]

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

This game has 2 types of players.

Raidloggers because lack of content to do.

social MMOer's who treat it like VRchat.

as much as i know the who "there's only 2 types of people" logic is just incredibly...dim...

i have encountered the latter of those 2 types of people in roulette parties and it's just...really creepy.

it's like... game, are my long DPS queue times not punishment enough for wanting to use the duty finder? just...why this?

[Seera1024]

Escrito originalmente por treos100:

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

This game has 2 types of players.

Raidloggers because lack of content to do.

social MMOer's who treat it like VRchat.

as much as i know the who "there's only 2 types of people" logic is just incredibly...dim...

i have encountered the latter of those 2 types of people in roulette parties and it's just...really creepy.

it's like... game, are my long DPS queue times not punishment enough for wanting to use the duty finder? just...why this?

Because more players want to play DPS than tanks or healers.

Tanks or healers are the limiting factor usually for group content. It's why Square Enix gives bonuses if you queue as whatever role is the limiting factor. I think that bonus is awarded even if you've done that roulette for the day (not 100% sure here).

[Kay]

Escrito originalmente por Seera1024:

Escrito originalmente por treos100:

as much as i know the who "there's only 2 types of people" logic is just incredibly...dim...

i have encountered the latter of those 2 types of people in roulette parties and it's just...really creepy.

it's like... game, are my long DPS queue times not punishment enough for wanting to use the duty finder? just...why this?

Because more players want to play DPS than tanks or healers.

Tanks or healers are the limiting factor usually for group content. It's why Square Enix gives bonuses if you queue as whatever role is the limiting factor. I think that bonus is awarded even if you've done that roulette for the day (not 100% sure here).

It is, though it's not large it does compensate for running lower level content all day

[Patchuun]

>BDO
>Guild wars 2
Stopped reading there

[Aphelium]

Escrito originalmente por GoodVodkaTV:

Been playing for a few days for hours on end doing MSQ and all daily roulettes, got 5 levels from 50-54, and i gotta get 70/80, in BDO which people say is more grindy i can reach the softcap level of 61 from lvl 1 in a few solid days of grinding and carry on doing what i find fun, because who in their right mind enjoys levelling in games(Unless you have no brain), i hear all these ffxiv sweats say its not slow because they played some game decades ago that took years(exaggeration) to level.

Guild wars 2 for exampl, levelling was slow as ♥♥♥♥ but atleast you got to farm tomes of knowledge on your main toons to level alts, why do i have to grind for weeks(more if you have a life) on end to experience the content everyone says is so amazing when i have to slog through all this low level ♥♥♥♥, sure the quests and story are interesting and can keep me occupied but boy am i tired of repeating all these ♥♥♥♥ low level dungeons and trials that lock my skills away so they're not even fun doing and i have no sense of even getting stronger as a character(so much for an rpg when i always just feel weak), all just so i can get a tiny slither of xp.

But wait there's more!, this is only while im still playing through MSQ, how ♥♥♥♥ing slow and boring is it going to be to level a fresh alt? like are you kidding me? to be honest i wouldnt be too mad if sync didnt take my skills away it wouldnt be that bad grinding low level ♥♥♥♥ because atleast you'll have new skills to play with, but nope, they take them away because woo that is what fun is about, oh but wait you can just Q your highest level dungeon? what so i can wait 20-30 mins? lmfao, or maybe 40+ mins off peak? because of the dumb role trinity ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t and nobody wants to play healer and tank because they get flamed if they ♥♥♥♥ up, why when you can just sit and spam skills as dps and not be bothered.

This game is a complete joke for new players and is why this game will die, who tf wants to play through this boring ♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ for weeks just to get to the good stuff? im currently using the 8 days of free game time to try get some levels and experience the content but at this rate i am probably not going to resub and put this game in the trash, probably the most new player un-friendly game i have played.

First mistake: Treat this game as anything symilar to BDO

[treos100]

Escrito originalmente por Aphelium:

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forgive my ignorance but what is this BDO you guys speak of?

[Aphelium]

Escrito originalmente por treos100:

Escrito originalmente por Aphelium:

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forgive my ignorance but what is this BDO you guys speak of?

Black desert online. Another MMO but full of bull and p2w practices. Instead of being a "TAB" target MMO is more of an action one. If you ever played Blade and souls is quite simmilar to it.
Tho waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more grindy. And full or RNG, let's not forget that RNG... ¬¬

[Nico Yazawa]

Escrito originalmente por Aphelium:

Escrito originalmente por treos100:

forgive my ignorance but what is this BDO you guys speak of?

Black desert online. Another MMO but full of bull and p2w practices. Instead of being a "TAB" target MMO is more of an action one. If you ever played Blade and souls is quite simmilar to it.
Tho waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more grindy. And full or RNG, let's not forget that RNG... ¬¬

Weren't you going to bed? More lies?

[Aphelium]

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

Escrito originalmente por Aphelium:

Black desert online. Another MMO but full of bull and p2w practices. Instead of being a "TAB" target MMO is more of an action one. If you ever played Blade and souls is quite simmilar to it.
Tho waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more grindy. And full or RNG, let's not forget that RNG... ¬¬

Weren't you going to bed? More lies?

And here is why i consider you a stalker and i'm not gonna give you anything remotely private xD
Yes, i'm laying on bed,Treos asked for a question and i answered.
Problem? deal with it you dirty dirty stalker ^^

[Nico Yazawa]

Escrito originalmente por Aphelium:

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

Weren't you going to bed? More lies?

And here is why i consider you a stalker and i'm not gonna give you anything remotely private xD
Yes, i'm laying on bed,Treos asked for a question and i answered.
Problem? deal with it you dirty dirty stalker ^^

Stalker? Please, I just have the thread subscribed so whenever a new message appears it notifies me? Don't believe me? I posted in it earlier.

[Nico Yazawa]

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

Escrito originalmente por Hellbound Heart:

And those who get banned for cheating like you did.

Funny. Too funny.

Never got reported. Never got banned.

Cool assumption though, 10/10. Troll harder.

Right here.

Edit: Real egotistical to think that I care that much for you though.

[Aphelium]

Escrito originalmente por Koishi Komeiji:

Escrito originalmente por Aphelium:

And here is why i consider you a stalker and i'm not gonna give you anything remotely private xD
Yes, i'm laying on bed,Treos asked for a question and i answered.
Problem? deal with it you dirty dirty stalker ^^

Stalker? Please, I just have the thread subscribed so whenever a new message appears it notifies me? Don't believe me? I posted in it earlier.

And you decided to answer to me specifically, right.
Bu bye^^