FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

Tsar Alexis Jul 19, 2017 @ 1:02pm
Mind and Intelligence
The wiki calims that Mind increases cure potency AND attack magic potency, whilst Intelligence only increases Attack Magic Potency. Is this accurate? If so then Inteliigence would be a useless stat......
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Tsar Alexis Jul 19, 2017 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Shirayuki474:
Int is main stat of casters while mind is main stat of healers.

But it seems mind would be better to stack since it increase both cure and attack magic potency. Why only stack Int when you can stack Mnd and have more diversity? That is why I am confused. Because if you have one character and you want to level all magic jobs you are better off stacking mind each time you level up.
Ruse Jul 19, 2017 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Emperor Nicholas I:
Originally posted by Shirayuki474:
Int is main stat of casters while mind is main stat of healers.

But it seems mind would be better to stack since it increase both cure and attack magic potency. Why only stack Int when you can stack Mnd and have more diversity? That is why I am confused. Because if you have one character and you want to level all magic jobs you are better off stacking mind each time you level up.

Your got your answer. I can't tell if you're trying to start a flame war or just not smart at all.
Tsar Alexis Jul 19, 2017 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by Theresa Barkskin:
Originally posted by Emperor Nicholas I:

But it seems mind would be better to stack since it increase both cure and attack magic potency. Why only stack Int when you can stack Mnd and have more diversity? That is why I am confused. Because if you have one character and you want to level all magic jobs you are better off stacking mind each time you level up.

Your got your answer. I can't tell if you're trying to start a flame war or just not smart at all.

I am not trying to start anything. The wiki says Mnd increase magic attack potency AND cure potency. So why would you invest in Int as Mnd also increase attack magic potency. What is the point of Int if Mnd does the same thing?
Tsar Alexis Jul 19, 2017 @ 1:22pm 
Are attack spells dependent on Int exclusively? Because the wiki makes it sound like Mnd will also increase attack magic potency.
Last edited by Tsar Alexis; Jul 19, 2017 @ 1:23pm
Tsar Alexis Jul 19, 2017 @ 1:33pm 
Never mind, I thought this was like FF XI where you higher level stats from one job carry over to a new level job stats.
nope, this is ffxiv lol. however that said. usually INT is for magic dps as they need attack while MND is for healers as they need it for better healing but in ffxiv unlike a lot of mmo's the healers here also have the ability to dps so the MND stat gives some of both because of that.

A magic dps class however wants as much attack power as it can have so dividing the stat and I'm guessing that MND does not give the same measure of attack power as INT alone, wouldn't really be all that useful for a magic dps.

anyway I didnt' see your post as something to start a 'flame' thing over so thought I'd try to just add my own observation to it. happy gaming o/
Fhaerron Jul 19, 2017 @ 2:56pm 
When playing DPS caster INT increases attack potency
When playing Healer MIND increases healing potency, there was a skill called cleric stance to swap MIND to INT so healers could DPS, with SB they changed it so that healers no longer need to stance dance but having their attack potency depended on MIND.
oh forgot one thing though. we dont' even put points into base stats anymore so it's a moot point really come to think of it. I mean I suppose that materia stuff has stats but I haven't used them yet and I"m not up on all of it. I assume most use that for end game gears. but anyway to points since we dont' need to do that anymore the base stats are already given to each class according to what they use.
Bad_Conduct Jul 19, 2017 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by Emperor Nicholas I:
The wiki calims that Mind increases cure potency AND attack magic potency, whilst Intelligence only increases Attack Magic Potency. Is this accurate? If so then Inteliigence would be a useless stat......

Stats lost their meaning even more in 4.0

MND is only for healer classes
INT is only for DPS classes, basically. Exception being summoner's healing move.

With the cross class skills and going from class to job, I think this game had a much different direction on the drawing board, but today you are basically just locked in a class with pre-set stats.
Tempus animae Jul 19, 2017 @ 8:52pm 
I looked for that Wiki... Copied this:

Mind

Mind is the primary stat for healers such as White Mage, Scholar, and Astrologian. Higher Mind means higher Healing Magic Potency and more healing your spells will do. Mind also means higher Attack Magic Potency and more damage a your spells will do.


Its just realy bad writing XD The wiki is wrong here. Ingame its does say its only the
"Attack Magic" of healers that get stronger by Mind stats^^
RopeDrink Jul 19, 2017 @ 8:55pm 
It tells you that IN-GAME. Mouseover MND - the potency increase of damage via MND is exclusive to Healers due to the removal of Cleric Stance, thus the old MND to INT swap mechanic no longer exists. You gain absolutely nothing by stacking MND on any caster DPS - and no, just because some are healing capable do NOT make it worth it. Leave that to your actual healers and stick to your job of killing things.
Sephrax Jul 20, 2017 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by RopeDrink:
You gain absolutely nothing by stacking MND on any caster DPS

Can you even do it?
I mean, all gear I've seen after level 50 is for specific job or role
For example "BLM" or "BLM, SMN, RDM"

Through materia?
BLM would benefit more from Spell Speed materia
SMN's only heal is so pathetic it's only useful for healing Garuda and Ifrit.
RDM's Vercure is based on Int?
Last edited by Sephrax; Jul 20, 2017 @ 1:57am
Ryoku Jul 20, 2017 @ 2:36am 
Originally posted by Emperor Nicholas I:
The wiki calims that Mind increases cure potency AND attack magic potency, whilst Intelligence only increases Attack Magic Potency. Is this accurate? If so then Inteliigence would be a useless stat......

No Int is Atk Potency for DPS Caster, And Mind is for Healers. I tested this on my SMN I equipped another chest piece and looked at my atk potency and then I melded a mind materia in it and there was no change to atk potency.
Tsar Alexis Jul 20, 2017 @ 6:46am 
Interesting, thanks for the info, I am coming back to this since last played 2014.

When we level do we get to pick a stat to raise anymore?

Races have base stats. So do classes and jobs also have base stats that stack with the race stats when you first start?

Do we essentially need to rely on equipment and traits to raise stats?
Tsar Alexis Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by ロスヴァイセ:
Originally posted by Emperor Nicholas I:
Interesting, thanks for the info, I am coming back to this since last played 2014.

When we level do we get to pick a stat to raise anymore?

Races have base stats. So do classes and jobs also have base stats that stack with the race stats when you first start?

Do we essentially need to rely on equipment and traits to raise stats?

No. It's automated now.

Race stats are negligible. Don't worry about that.

Yes. As an example, if you want to have more damage on a tank class the only way to do that now is through equipment that gives strength over vitality. You cannot give points to str anymore.

Thank you, Kindly.
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