FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

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mirta000 Mar 14, 2018 @ 6:05pm
Eureka is the worst piece of content since 1.0
I really hope that this is not the direction that the game is taking, but rather a one off, as it is seriously anger inducing and dissappointing. 1 year ago I wrote a very positive review for FFXIV. I have 4000 hours in it and Eureka really sucked any joy out of me at a snap of a finger. It's just so bad. Like playing an MMO from 20 years ago. Sorry, but I don't get it.

https://youtu.be/Wagr7uSV5CU
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Oberon Mar 16, 2018 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by Outlaw Star:
At this point it's plainly obvious Murder Town is just trolling people's opinions. Not much left to further this conversation unfortunately. Hell he barely skimmed over my post before responding. xD.

But it's understandable, at 5K hours he's specifically one of the players i'm referring to. :steammocking:

"Our baseless complaints are falling on deaf ears, clearly the person we're talking to must be trolling or a fanboy."

Typical.

Originally posted by Outlaw Star:
Edit -> Claims no games focus on end-game pvp, plays DC Universe for nearly 2k hours. GG checkmate.

PVP is endgame in DCUO the same way PVP is endgame in this, in that I've only played about 20 minutes of it in both. Whoever told you DCUO's endgame was PVP was lying to your face.

Also, yes, that is checkmate, specifically because you chose to try and mock me over something in my games list rather than defend your ideas.
Last edited by Oberon; Mar 16, 2018 @ 9:38am
Originally posted by xd:
Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:

You got banned because you used a parser as an excuse to give other people ♥♥♥♥ for their DPS. That's not carebear, that's you breaking TOS and blaming the game.

Never got banned lol, stop making assumptions.

Also another thing, not allowing addons because?
Addons are forbidden. It's as bad as rmt.
Nerevar Mar 16, 2018 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by xd:
Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:

You got banned because you used a parser as an excuse to give other people ♥♥♥♥ for their DPS. That's not carebear, that's you breaking TOS and blaming the game.

Never got banned lol, stop making assumptions.

Also another thing, not allowing addons because?

dont waste your time with him. its like talking to a zealot. EDIT : see the way beyond stupid response below.... says all. just ignore him.

to answer your question :

the reason this mmo allows no addons is sadly quite simple :

its the console limitations. addons work on pc only mmos as all pc only mmos have them to some degree (some have more than others). and since they dont want console players to be at a disadvantage because they cannot access addons by default they dont allow them in generel. its sad but the console is holding the game back in certain areas due to its limitations. but money matters more to them and consoles are more popular in japan than in the west.

as for the tc : i wouldnt call it the worst tbh. its certainly not creative yeah but that was to be expected given its yoshi we are dealing with here. but eurekas major flaw is the rewards. relic has never been this useless in its enitre history of existence. the armors ilvl are a joke at this point in time and definitly not worth grinding for. the fact they made them this low shows that there is no plan to make relic reach comparable ilvl to upgraded tome stuff in 4.3 either. so eureka is imo just a giant waste of time. its grind without reason which imo is the most stupid grind you can add to an mmo.
Last edited by Nerevar; Mar 16, 2018 @ 10:02am
Oberon Mar 16, 2018 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by Nerevar:
Originally posted by xd:

Never got banned lol, stop making assumptions.

Also another thing, not allowing addons because?

dont waste your time with him. its like talking to a zealot.

to answer your question :

the reason this mmo allows no addons is sadly quite simple : its the console limitations. addons work on pc only mmos. and since they dont want console players to be at a disadvantage because they cannot access addons by default they dont allow them in generel. its sad but the console is holding the game back in certain areas due to its limitations. but money matters more to them and consoles are more popular in japan than in the west.

Oh yes, that's why online games ban people for using third-party programs. You nailed, it, you cracked the code. Cheating, hacking? Psh, no, it's gotta be because of console players!
mirta000 Mar 16, 2018 @ 3:12pm 
think I'll add to the conversation, as it is my thread after all:

I believe that what FFXIV does good is story and raids. Unfortunately the best story is locked away at heavensward and stormblood. I did say that developers should shorten and re-do the story in the early levels, but unfortunately their approach was to offer a money potion to just skip a lot of it. I don't think that skipping is a good solution, especially not when they introduced the solution just to make money off it.
I like Savage raiding (though no longer have time for it, or can do it), because of the difficulty that they're at, because of the creative strategies that you can make when playing with friends and because you only need 8 people, making it one of the smallest hard raids in any MMO. Though if they made 4 man savage dungeons as alternative content, I would probably be all over that instead. Simply put organizing large amounts of people is a nightmare, but difficult co-operative play is fun.

Allowing 3rd party programs makes running such things as wall hacks and bots fairly easy. Not that we don't get that now, we would simply get more of it. However, no matter how friendly they're trying to be to people in game, I think the best solution would be an inbuilt parser, even if a vague or a personal one. If after every dungeon the player was greeted with a screen telling them "you did this much healing, this much damage, this much damage mitigation, here's where you stand compared to other players that did this content on the same class", I think far more players would love to shape up. However it is a bit of a "catering" game by being afraid to hurt their players feelings. It is not entirely carebear though, as you can kick someone with low DPS on the basis of "different gameplay goals".

I would not want this game to be driven by open world guild based PvP. There is a market for that, however I would not want them to reshape existing games to suit that direction. Sometimes we all want a bit of competitive PvP environment. Sometimes we just want a good themepark PVE focused MMO. FFXIV is the latter. If every MMO was the former, I believe we would greatly lack variety and choice.
Twesley1992 Mar 17, 2018 @ 3:40am 
Originally posted by xd:
Yoshi is killing the game, dev team only cares about outfits and roleplaying.

Wish they add some fun new content, since we're getting the same ♥♥♥♥ since 2.0

You know you don't have to play the game right or even touch the content? If you're that bored enough to talk ♥♥♥♥ on something, go play another MMO. I switch between this and WoW and glad I do. You should probably do something about your salt.
Tivz Mar 18, 2018 @ 12:48pm 
I actually really like it and I feel it is a somewhat change of pace, the last relic was just tome grind after tome grind and was generally very uninteresting to do in my opinion. Just my 2 cents on the matter
xyz Mar 18, 2018 @ 1:41pm 
This is the only content outside of raiding til 5.0 that is really relevant. Yes we might get another potd, or PvP map, but if you don't raid there is no point subscribing til the next expansion, Eureka taught me that.
Nico Yazawa Mar 18, 2018 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:
Originally posted by xd:

Never got banned lol, stop making assumptions.

Then why are you complaining? Are you just mad you're not allowed to use third-party programs as an excuse to harass other players?

Originally posted by xd:
Also another thing, not allowing addons because?

Because online games don't do that.

WoW does.

WoW openly welcomes addons, be they parsers, (because the players aren't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that can't handle being told their dps sucks) UI addons, roleplay addons, boss databases, etc.
Oberon Mar 18, 2018 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by Koishi Komeiji:
Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:

Then why are you complaining? Are you just mad you're not allowed to use third-party programs as an excuse to harass other players?



Because online games don't do that.

WoW does.

WoW openly welcomes addons, be they parsers, (because the players aren't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that can't handle being told their dps sucks) UI addons, roleplay addons, boss databases, etc.

Then go play WoW.
Last edited by Oberon; Mar 18, 2018 @ 3:55pm
xxxaziexxx Mar 18, 2018 @ 4:38pm 
I dunno, I kinda like it.

It reminds me of when I used to play Guild Wars 2 and they had an event train like the NM one that runs in these. I had fun talking to people while we ran them.
Oberon Mar 18, 2018 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by xxxaziexxx:
I dunno, I kinda like it.

It reminds me of when I used to play Guild Wars 2 and they had an event train like the NM one that runs in these. I had fun talking to people while we ran them.

From what I'm hearing, the longer you stick with it, the better it gets. It's just that I don't want to start it much less stick with it.
Nico Yazawa Mar 18, 2018 @ 9:12pm 
Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:
Originally posted by Koishi Komeiji:

WoW does.

WoW openly welcomes addons, be they parsers, (because the players aren't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that can't handle being told their dps sucks) UI addons, roleplay addons, boss databases, etc.

Then go play WoW.

That's a really dumb arguement though. Why would you disregard things that make something better and say "just go play that instead lol"
galacticcorgi Mar 19, 2018 @ 1:37am 
Originally posted by Koishi Komeiji:
Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:

Then why are you complaining? Are you just mad you're not allowed to use third-party programs as an excuse to harass other players?



Because online games don't do that.

WoW does.

WoW openly welcomes addons, be they parsers, (because the players aren't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that can't handle being told their dps sucks) UI addons, roleplay addons, boss databases, etc.
You say this, but I have multiple friends who outright hate the in-game parser because of the toxicity it spawns.
Tivz Mar 19, 2018 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:
Originally posted by xxxaziexxx:
I dunno, I kinda like it.

It reminds me of when I used to play Guild Wars 2 and they had an event train like the NM one that runs in these. I had fun talking to people while we ran them.

From what I'm hearing, the longer you stick with it, the better it gets. It's just that I don't want to start it much less stick with it.


pssssst, start it ;)
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