FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

FINAL FANTASY XIV Online

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Zoob Mer 2016 年 12 月 29 日 下午 9:19
too expensive?
so I did some research, and apperantly this game requires you buy it, then requires a subscription, then includes microtransactions. WTF? who thought such a greedy cash grab could possibly be a good idea? you're supposed to pick one or two of of those monatization methods and stick to it, not all three! I wanted this game, but if this is true, that makes the game trash.

is it true?

edit: here's the best respounce in the tread:
引用自 I.C.E Shadezzz
Dont play the game. simple as that. This type of game are usually for the committed and have some cash they can spend each month. Yes, the total adds up but so is the stuff you buy every month like new clothes and nifty gadgets. You dont have to spend money on those things but you choose to.

The microtransaction are purely cosmetic and it doesn't give any advantage whatsoever. It is hardly a microtransaction compared to some games which give boosts and power.

Also the subscription will allow the game to live a long time unlike some AAA games like call of duty and battlefield (talking about each individual game and not the entire series). Most game will last about a year tops. Subscription game can last up to however long they like as long they keep pumping out contents. Check out WoW, they run similar setup as FFXIV and they lasted about 10 years i believe. Normal games doesn't even come near it.
最后由 Zoob Mer 编辑于; 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 5:59
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Asphe 2016 年 12 月 30 日 上午 10:32 
Buy the game [and expansions]. Pay a monthly [actually it's in 30 day increments] subscription. Has a cash-shop [since when did $30 for a mount become a "micro-transaction"?]. Special events that cost extra [and if you want all the possible in-game minions,,, you'd have bought all the Fan Fest streams] AND the cheaper cash shop items are stuff you could've gotten for free.

Yeah, this is a terrible game for the OP. He should stay away from this trash.

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His trash, our treasure. Why even bother to convince him otherwise? What next? Climate change is actually happening? Peace in the middle-east? All cats have fleas?

Just because you stuck-up snobs are willing to pay to avoid crying babies [who hate homosexuals yet are obsessed with having carnal knowledge of you] or monthly, weekly, daily and hourly cash-shop sales promotions doesn't meant the OP has to.
Oberon 2016 年 12 月 30 日 上午 10:45 
引用自 Asphe
Buy the game [and expansions]. Pay a monthly [actually it's in 30 day increments] subscription. Has a cash-shop [since when did $30 for a mount become a "micro-transaction"?]. Special events that cost extra [and if you want all the possible in-game minions,,, you'd have bought all the Fan Fest streams] AND the cheaper cash shop items are stuff you could've gotten for free.

Yeah, this is a terrible game for the OP. He should stay away from this trash.

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His trash, our treasure. Why even bother to convince him otherwise? What next? Climate change is actually happening? Peace in the middle-east? All cats have fleas?

Just because you stuck-up snobs are willing to pay to avoid crying babies [who hate homosexuals yet are obsessed with having carnal knowledge of you] or monthly, weekly, daily and hourly cash-shop sales promotions doesn't meant the OP has to.

Did a cash shop kill your parents or something?
Zoob Mer 2016 年 12 月 30 日 上午 11:23 
引用自 Asphe
Buy the game [and expansions]. Pay a monthly [actually it's in 30 day increments] subscription. Has a cash-shop [since when did $30 for a mount become a "micro-transaction"?]. Special events that cost extra [and if you want all the possible in-game minions,,, you'd have bought all the Fan Fest streams] AND the cheaper cash shop items are stuff you could've gotten for free.

Yeah, this is a terrible game for the OP. He should stay away from this trash.

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His trash, our treasure. Why even bother to convince him otherwise? What next? Climate change is actually happening? Peace in the middle-east? All cats have fleas?

Just because you stuck-up snobs are willing to pay to avoid crying babies [who hate homosexuals yet are obsessed with having carnal knowledge of you] or monthly, weekly, daily and hourly cash-shop sales promotions doesn't meant the OP has to.
why are you being such an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it?
Thejthar 2016 年 12 月 30 日 上午 11:50 
Yeah Warframe is F2P with a super long tedious farm fest to get anything good.
adobo 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 2:25 
What micro-transaction? It's not like you'll be needing that raindeer costume to keep up with all the pro raiders out there.

Seriously, after playing for a year, I've only spent a few dollars on the cash shop once for that broom mount I missed last year's halloween.

It's all about how willing you are to spend for pointless stuff like $140 for an emote and a bonus statue or $37 for a hat and an extra doll. Buy tickets for their online streams for in-game clothes. Then there's spending god knows what to attend their fanfests just to buy a book.
最后由 adobo 编辑于; 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 2:40
Gabby 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 5:24 
引用自 ZB
why are you being such an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it?

You're not exactly being a peach yourself.

Anyway, I'm sorry but the black and white claim that "Purchase + Sub + Micro = Bad" is just a farce. It's not like that. The Cash Shop in this game is mostly for services (like race change) and super cosmetics (like clothing dyes and outfits) as well as some mounts and minions.

The majority of what's found in the cash shop can be obtained in game in some way. For instance it sells a lot of seasonal rewards no longer available because the holiday has passed. If you think about it, a very appropriate response instead of eternally not allowing new players to get that stuff because they came into the game late. Nothing in the cash shop is P2W or gives you any type of special advantage. Some of the services, like race change, you're given 2-3 of the item that accomplishes that while you play for free, making the need to purchase that service something largely self inflicted.

Subscription Based MMOs trade a regular subscription fee for a larger amount of content developed between expansion packs, better service and support as well as a guaranteed quality to the servers you're playing on and overall gameplay experience.

It's not a matter of "any two is okay, three is bad", and simplifying it to that is somewhat immature and blinding oneself to more important, logical thinking. First of all, any MMO that follows the "only two of those, not three" ultimately suffers in some way. GW2 is a fun one shot experience, not requiring a sub fee, but ultimately it grows stale quickly and support for the game is absolutely terrible. The Old Republic has become a giant marketing tool to convince you to pay for microtransactions ever since the subscription fee became optional. I can go on.

FF14 is a Sub Based MMO that offers some microtransactions for stuff they never intended to actually be a part of the game, or things they never intended people to need constantly. It's offering additional services for a small fee, which is natural for any business to do.

Ignore the cash shop. You don't need it, there's no use for it to you, so it's not actually a factor in your decision unless you desperately need that horse or bird to fly around on. (You don't.)

Look at this as a subscription based MMORPG. And don't perscribe to the Jim Sterling "I've decided morality works only one way and reason won't sway me" mentality.
vishuspuss 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 7:10 
引用自 Thejthar
Yeah Warframe is F2P with a super long tedious farm fest to get anything good.

This. over and over and over and over...

Just like every other "F2P" rpg out there... or you can buy stuff to make you faster and stronger... lollll

So let us spend 100+++ bucks so I can be strong in less than a week in a game that has repetitive crap content OR pay 15 bucks a month for a game with a beyond HUGE amount of content that has no P2W whatsoever...

Guess people really are too poor for 15 bucks a month. Hell, my allowance in 1987 was 5 bucks a week.
最后由 vishuspuss 编辑于; 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 7:12
LZXio 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 8:36 
引用自 vishuspuss
引用自 Thejthar
Yeah Warframe is F2P with a super long tedious farm fest to get anything good.

This. over and over and over and over...

Just like every other "F2P" rpg out there... or you can buy stuff to make you faster and stronger... lollll

So let us spend 100+++ bucks so I can be strong in less than a week in a game that has repetitive crap content OR pay 15 bucks a month for a game with a beyond HUGE amount of content that has no P2W whatsoever...

Guess people really are too poor for 15 bucks a month. Hell, my allowance in 1987 was 5 bucks a week.

They just don't understand the return it gives to spend that money. Most people I see complaining about subscription either don't know we get updates in solid intervals or think those updates will come out of nowhere, like no one has to be paid for things to be actually made.

@OP

The said "microtransactions" doesn't give you any edge over other players, its mostly cosmetics or early game experience boosts (which makes no difference, because they also gave boost in experience for all the players because of expansion).

Game isn't expensive, you're getting new content in solid update intervals, thats the difference between subscription and pay only once. In pay only once you will get the game you paid for and it'll most likely not get any new content without you having to pay for it (DLC, season pass). Subscription based games are constantly getting new content, people wouldn't pay for it otherwise.
EQOAnostalgia 2016 年 12 月 31 日 上午 6:18 
Didn't read all the replies but i'm sure someone has told you the absolutely OUTSTANDING amount of free updates, and the quality of said updates by now yes? This game truly is amazing and of the highest quality. I played on PS4 for a year and moving over to PC soon.
Pending Doom 2016 年 12 月 31 日 上午 8:23 
This guy needs to just delete this thread out of embarassment already.
Zoob Mer 2016 年 12 月 31 日 上午 10:25 
引用自 Diabolical_Oblivion
This guy needs to just delete this thread out of embarassment already.
I would if I could.
PFC Demigo [29th ID] 2017 年 1 月 1 日 下午 3:12 
*replace WoW with FFXI
jjstraka34 2017 年 1 月 1 日 下午 3:47 
Both FF MMOs (11 and 14) have been able to maintain their subscription model because they are extremely high quality, I'd venture to say the best on the market, with WoW being the other candidate for games of this type. Trust me, if you are going to be play an MMO, you HAVE to be a subscriber. Free to Play models are great if you are just dabbling to see what it is like, but if you ever hope to actually acommplish anything in any game of this genre, you WILL end up paying. ESO is a nightmare without the crafting inventory, Everquest, LOTRO, etc, all have serious benefits to paying monthly. Final Fantasy XIV is of far superior quality to all these games, even ESO.
Tendou Arisu 2024 年 8 月 31 日 上午 10:20 
引用自 Asphe
Buy the game [and expansions]. Pay a monthly [actually it's in 30 day increments] subscription. Has a cash-shop [since when did $30 for a mount become a "micro-transaction"?]. Special events that cost extra [and if you want all the possible in-game minions,,, you'd have bought all the Fan Fest streams] AND the cheaper cash shop items are stuff you could've gotten for free.

Yeah, this is a terrible game for the OP. He should stay away from this trash.

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His trash, our treasure. Why even bother to convince him otherwise? What next? Climate change is actually happening? Peace in the middle-east? All cats have fleas?

Just because you stuck-up snobs are willing to pay to avoid crying babies [who hate homosexuals yet are obsessed with having carnal knowledge of you] or monthly, weekly, daily and hourly cash-shop sales promotions doesn't meant the OP has to.
But climate change is happening…
Otherwise the ITER project won’t be happening
Tendou Arisu 2024 年 8 月 31 日 上午 10:23 
It’s 15 dollars in the US
Maybe cheaper if in euro
But to many people in the world 15 USD is not cheap.
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