proto ultima....

[Nerevar]

wow. what a joke. talk about wasted dev resources. also no reason to be delayed except sub money. gg SE... they are not even trying anymore it seems. the fanfest one was better than this and that one was already too easy. this one may aswell not exist.

[Oberon]

Dry those tears, take a deep breath, and explain what the actual problem is. Because nothing you're saying makes any amount of sense.

[Nerevar]

do dun scaith with the quest and youll see what i mean....

[Oberon]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

do dun scaith with the quest and youll see what i mean....

I fought him, beat him, got a fancy new ring out of it. I still have no idea what you're whining about. What do you mean by "no reason to be delayed except sub money"? Like the only reason people were subscribing was because they may one day get to fight Proto Ultima? Because that's as false as it is stupid.

[Nerevar]

the tank ring is utter garbage and may aswell not exist except for the necklace all tank accs are worse than shire actually. the fight may aswell not exist. beating it requires ZERO braincells and zero effort. they may aswell give the accs for logging in once per week instead of wasting resources on a trashboss fight.

what i mean is they delayed it to force people to renew thier subs for another month because its a weekly thing. adding a weekly thing this close to a level cap raise is plain dumb gameplay wise so the sole reason is sub money.

relic quest is also proof that what yoshida says cannot be taken serious at all. he said about 6 months ago he would never force players into a trial for relic ever again. now look what we got today.

[Oberon]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

the tank ring is utter garbage and may aswell not exist except for the necklace all tank accs are worse than shire actually. the fight may aswell not exist.

Do you seriously think every piece of gear is meant to be BIS?

Originally posted by Nerevar:

beating it requires ZERO braincells and zero effort.

So?

Originally posted by Nerevar:

they may aswell give the accs for logging in once per week instead of wasting resources on a trashboss fight.

Yeah, I'd bet you'd like that, considering how much you're complaining about weekly lockouts.

Originally posted by Nerevar:

what i mean is they delayed it to force people to renew thier subs for another month because its a weekly thing.

Again, I don't think you fully appreciate just how stupid it is to say that. You're suggesting people only pay for subscriptions out of anticipation of this one fight? You know why I renewed my sub a couple of weeks ago? It's because there's still a lot of stuff I want to get done before Stormblood comes out. Not the least of which is helping along a friend of mine who just joined the game.

But hey, if you were subbing because of one trial, well, that's cool too I guess...

Originally posted by Nerevar:

adding a weekly thing this close to a level cap raise is plain dumb gameplay wise so the sole reason is sub money.

Or to speed up the gearing process. Much like how they doubled the Poetics cap before HW came out.

Originally posted by Nerevar:

relic quest is also proof that what yoshida says cannot be taken serious at all. he said about 6 months ago he would never force players into a trial for relic ever again. now look what we got today.

First off, post proof he said this.

Second, what is it too hard for you? It takes like an hour tops. Idyllshire is already full of people with the Lux weapons.

[Oberon]

Also, as for "just giving the accessories to us" they are. Most people run Dun Scaith weekly for the Scripture augmentations, meaning you'd be running right past Proto Ultima anyway. So you really don't have an excuse not to pick up the weekly to get the free accessory anyway. it's like Wondrous Tails; it's giving you more bonuses for the stuff you were already doing.

[Nerevar]

i never said its too hard for me. i finished it already hours ago. i just said this is proof what he says doesnt mean its not gonna happen ever. and now remember what he said about f2p :) this is just proof what he says means nothing in the long run again just like what he said about housing and that he didnt want to take houses away from players for not paying thier house monthly. and 1 year later he added demolition timers. go figure.

anyone who defends this crap is beyond help. sorry.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Shirayuki474:

I was never so much dissapointed in FF XIV than with Proto Ultima... I will never forget that. They made such hype for 24 raid new boss and we got some kind of ♥♥♥♥ which just replaced trash mob from Dun Scath, it is not even the same as fanfest version, Irfit normal is harder than this piece of crap added without lore or without sense.

OP: Don't listem him, he is classic fanboy, Square Enix could make a new boss a poo and he would be worshiping it with the highest possible respect, any talk about any bad aspect of the game is completely pointless with this person because this game is absolute perfection.

i am not blind mate :) so dont worry about me in that regard^^

[zztoluca]

I too am dissapointed with the implemination of the first 24-man trial they hyped so much.
Odin at least had a story but this just replaced a trash mob as a trash mini boss.
I fear for the reintroduction of Diadem 2.0 now.

[Thejthar]

I understand why everyone is disappointed since everyone (including me) thought this was going to be a new trial. Now looking back they never said it was, everyone was assuming it would be since it was at the fanfests. He does have a reason to be there you just have to go looking for it and I don't like that it is hidden. Though I do like the idea that if you agree to something outside an instance that it could change the instance such as swiping out mobs for mini bosses. Though this first try was disappointing since we were expecting something bigger. This idea could lead to interesting things but we have to wait till Stromblood now to see if they actually do anything with it.

[Oberon]

Originally posted by Shirayuki474:

They made such hype for 24 raid new boss

When?

Originally posted by Nerevar:

i just said this is proof what he says doesnt mean its not gonna happen ever. and now remember what he said about f2p :) this is just proof what he says means nothing in the long run again just like what he said about housing and that he didnt want to take houses away from players for not paying thier house monthly. and 1 year later he added demolition timers. go figure.

Prove that he actually said any of this.

Originally posted by Shirayuki474:

Originally posted by zztoluca:

I too am dissapointed with the implemination of the first 24-man trial they hyped so much.
Odin at least had a story but this just replaced a trash mob as a trash mini boss.
I fear for the reintroduction of Diadem 2.0 now.

Some players are making excuses for them because Odin was very hard to clear but this? It is just trash mob, it is not even boss! It is like... I don't know, fighting first 3 birds on Void Ark... And we can't forget all of this is simple replacement of another trash mob with was before...

It is too early to make future judgmenets though, It is first fail since... I don't even remember, it happens...

See, now you're just exaggerating for the sake of n argument. Again.

[Oberon]

I'm still waiting on that proof that Yoshi-P said we'd never have to do trials for relics again. My request for it was 10 hours ago.

[Chibi-Moogle]

Originally posted by Thejthar:

I understand why everyone is disappointed since everyone (including me) thought this was going to be a new trial. Now looking back they never said it was, everyone was assuming it would be since it was at the fanfests. He does have a reason to be there you just have to go looking for it and I don't like that it is hidden. Though I do like the idea that if you agree to something outside an instance that it could change the instance such as swiping out mobs for mini bosses. Though this first try was disappointing since we were expecting something bigger. This idea could lead to interesting things but we have to wait till Stromblood now to see if they actually do anything with it.

I have to admit, it wasn't what I had in mind when I saw they were adding Proto Ultima. XD

I had kinda figured it would be like Odin again that he'd be a fate boss or something and you get loot that you can trade for better loot or just for glams. :P

But like you said, they never really stated it, they just said they were going to add it in the game, even so I have to admit that I was kind of disappointed. ^^;

Still, I won't let that stop me from loving the game. =3 Maybe they wanted to add a new trial challenge for next year's fanfest stuff, like adding a Proto Omega for the fan festival goers to challenge themselves against? Maybe?

I mean I'm pretty sure fan festival goers would get kinda bored beating just Proto Ultima every year. XD

So this was probably their way of giving Proto Ultima some purpose still (although I will admit they could of handled it better) but meh, it's really not that big of a deal for me. ^-^

Every MMO is bound to make some mistakes that will ruffle some feathers. I mean look at WOW, they've made a ton of mistakes (although that was by their own doing) and they're still going strong. XD

Ya just gotta go with the flow~ *makes wavy arms like ocean waves*

[Neiker]

I liked that they added it as a new boss in an old raid. But thats prety much it, the fight was patheticaly easy to the point i think they shouldnt have bothered adding it(seriously the ♥♥♥♥ 'boss' that was there before was more chalenging than this excuse of a "boss", it looks like they put a 8 man party boss on a 24 man raid). But at least it will make it easier to gear up, specialy side jobs, soo theres at least that.

[Drakanoth, One]

Have you guys considered that maybe they don't tell you the location because it doesn't have an exact one? It may spawn on different raids on trash areas. Its just my two cents, but when I saw the NPC hinting us where we could find him thats what came to mind.

But yea, they never did mention it was gonna be a trial. They only mentioned they would put it into the game, and so they did. At this point in the game it doesn't even matter getting i270 acc because you can already do it, weekly. I see it more like a "give away of free goodies" instead of a failure on game design.