Rouge/Ninja

[TheMeowster]

So, i was wondering how hard is it to play as a rouge? i know the pre-requisites for it but i just want to know is it hard, average, easy when you unlock it? also how is the ninja play? is it all about setting up with buffs and then attacking by crits? or it is it more of a support DPS that is nice to see but not helpful

[Shadezzz]

A ninja is a pure dps class. However it is tricky to master because of mudra (ninjutsu). You have to combine mudra to make an ability for you to cast.

It is a huge leap from rogue. I remember rogue was fairly easy to learn but when you hit ninja, its a whole new game

Tip: dont use macro for your mudras. It is way to slow. You will have to memorize it for quicker dps

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

Boy, playing as a Ninja. You're going to break your fingers with the amount of Combo and Mudra you need and memorized to do not to mention getting Tunnel Vision like playing a Monk x.X

[Vileoxe]

Ninja is fun to play when you learn the rotations.

[TheMeowster]

引用自 Shadezzz：

A ninja is a pure dps class. However it is tricky to master because of mudra (ninjutsu). You have to combine mudra to make an ability for you to cast.

It is a huge leap from rogue. I remember rogue was fairly easy to learn but when you hit ninja, its a whole new game

Tip: dont use macro for your mudras. It is way to slow. You will have to memorize it for quicker dps

would using macros for moves and then having mudras assigned per macro work (mudra used manually)?

[Promestein]

引用自 SicariusSenpai：

引用自 Shadezzz：

A ninja is a pure dps class. However it is tricky to master because of mudra (ninjutsu). You have to combine mudra to make an ability for you to cast.

It is a huge leap from rogue. I remember rogue was fairly easy to learn but when you hit ninja, its a whole new game

Tip: dont use macro for your mudras. It is way to slow. You will have to memorize it for quicker dps

would using macros for moves and then having mudras assigned per macro work (mudra used manually)?

It will but inefficiently. And if someone knows about it, you will be told to not do that anymore.

[TheMeowster]

引用自 Promestein：

引用自 SicariusSenpai：

would using macros for moves and then having mudras assigned per macro work (mudra used manually)?

It will but inefficiently. And if someone knows about it, you will be told to not do that anymore.

this is sounding like a hassle, but fun. going to be a nusiance though since i turn of the giant pop up window that tells me what the move is, its damage, etc etc. rather just print everything out and highlight things then have that window up all the time blocking view

[Raiseo]

Hey there.
I do play ninja fairly regularly and I have to say, it was a nightmare to learn the rotation at first, but I'm having lots of fun with it.

What Shadezz said is false btw (he probably meant well), Ninja is a great dps, but out of the three melee ones, it's the most support and utility oriented (Monk is more like a "pure dps" class).

At level 60 you can somewhat control aggro, do decent AoE damage, do a cool backstab move to the boss that gives him a strong vulnerability debuff that your other party members can gladly and happily use, apart from that, it has hectic gameplay where you need to keep track of several things.
Easiest way to explain it is, you manage to put up your dots and then it's a game about keeping the vulnerability and the dots up, while you maintain your Huton, while you do mudras (by hand oh lord I use some useful macros but don't ever do mudras on macros, they're like 3x slower, besides why would you want to? That's no fun), while you do those damage combos.

But yeah, Ninjas are valued by parties because they can bring the slash debuff, the vulnerability debuff and Goad to restore TP of another party member, as I already said, the most support and party oriented melee dps class there is at the moment.

I'm going to be honest with you, I saw a lot of bad ninjas and very few good ones, but if you want to take a stab at it (lol) prepare to spend at least some hours at the mannequin once you hit 50, but man, in the end it's worth it, the flow of a good combo paired with mudras makes it addicting to play.
Every rotation can be mastered if you put enough time in it, but I would say it's between medium-hard, to play properly that is.

[Lusus Symphonia]

引用自 ♋️LunarCainEX🐶：

do not to mention getting Tunnel Vision like playing a Monk x.X

Easiest and the most simple rotation in FFXIV once you've got it as muscle memory, the only things you need to concentrate on is keeping twin snakes, dragon kick etc up at all times which might modify your combo a slight bit.

[TheMeowster]

with all these things to look out for is there a certain hotbar style i should have set up? would the basic 2 long hotbar and side hot bars work or should i go to the controller style hotbar? i dont mind clicking things just not sure what hotbar style is recommended or easier to use to keep track of everything and for rotations.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

引用自 SicariusSenpai：

with all these things to look out for is there a certain hotbar style i should have set up? would the basic 2 long hotbar and side hot bars work or should i go to the controller style hotbar? i dont mind clicking things just not sure what hotbar style is recommended or easier to use to keep track of everything and for rotations.

Unless you want a messy Hotbar like mine. Though it's outdated and I did some hotbar organizing. This was 2 Years ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=665021094

[duEprocEss]

I recently started a ninja and am forseeing an issue with mudra. I only have two currently and I usually can't get the ninjitsu off before the GCD has refreshed. I can imagine I'll have a DPS drop when I have to deal with 3 mudra! Any tips?

[Kitsune]

In most cases, you don't have to worry about clipping your GCDs with 3 mudra ninjutsus at that point, and when you get later on you'll have Armor Crush which will help. Generally, I don't use my 3 mudra jutsus unless the situation calls for it(vuln up with sneak attack or starting with Huton), mainly rely on Katon for AoE, Raiton for burstdown, and Fuma Shuriken for extended fights against bosses(the slash debuff you put up benefits it).