I just want to know WHO IS Frisk?!

[Bananarchist]

At first I chose to mercy Asgore and he was killed by Flowey. Then I beaten Flowey and it told me that I could have got a better ending. So I went back to date with Alphys. And after that I again beat Asriel and he told me that I was not of my character's name but Frisk. Then every NPC began to call me Frisk!
Anyone knows who is Frisk? Does this mean that though I reloaded, my character just have been dead? So Toby Fox use this way to tell me that I'll never be my character again?

[NixXxoN]

From what I understand the character you named (I named her Loli) is already dead at the start of the game, and is at least partially possessing Frisk after he fell. Once you get to the endgame of a pacifist run, Frisk breaks free of that spirit. As for the player I think it can go either way. You're either playing as the spirit controlling Frisk during an evil run, or as Frisk resisting the dark urges of the spirit on a neutral/pacifist one.

The named character is the one who first fell into the underworld, and is the one who befriended Asriel and led him astray.

If you hike all the way back to very start of the game, you can have a final chat with what's left of Asriel, and he'll imply Frisk could have been going through a really bad time in his/her life to willingly go to a place where no humans ever return from. I'm kind of surprised that Asriel himself doesn't ask you to put him/Flowey out of his misery for good after the true end. He'll be stuck forever down there stewing in hatred like some biblical figure.

[Arlyeon [Crit Hit]]

Frisk is your character. The person you named was the -first- child who fellow into the undergrounds. (Who was a complete ♥♥♥♥♥, btw. Like, sociopathic, if you watched all the files in the lab, and talked to Asriel).

[Igƞis]

Originally posted by ~*Arlyeon*~:

Frisk is your character. The person you named was the -first- child who fellow into the undergrounds. (Who was a complete ♥♥♥♥♥, btw. Like, sociopathic, if you watched all the files in the lab, and talked to Asriel).

The true lab videos are about Chara not Frisk.

[Arlyeon [Crit Hit]]

I know. Hence why I specified, the perosn you name was the first child. There were -7- children before frisk. Six of which were killed by Asgore, and Co.

Chara effectively commited suicide. For diabolical and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ reasons.

[CrashFu]

I don't think Frisk's origins have been established in detail, BUT my personal headcanon / theory is that Frisk actually is the revived body of Chara. There are clues all over that support this theory, if not conclusively prove it.

For example, if you found the coffins off to the side of Asgore's throne room, the one with Frisk's-color heart on the lid has Chara's name, and is empty. You find out that this is because Chara's body was taken and buried under some flowers after their death. Those flowers were the same type as the ones used in Alphys' Determination-injection experiments, and so its possible they could have actually BEEN determination-infused flowers.

If that was the case, it would be entirely possible that the Determination seeped out of the flowers, into Chara's body underneath, bringing it back to life, but missing MOST of their memory (and thus having a clean start) because Chara's soul had already left their body and gotten absorbed by Asriel.. that explains the flashes of dialogue you get directed towards Chara here and there, it's old memories resurfacing.

Another clue to support this theory is that you start the game wearing bandages, and if you went back and examined Chara's coffin AFTER beating the game, there's an added line about there being some sort of bandages on the floor beside it... although I can't recall if it was possible to open the Stat menu before meeting Flowey/Toriel that first time, so it could very well be those bandages were applied by her when she heals your (possible) flower-inflicted wounds... or for wounds you might have sustained if this theory is completely bogus and Frisk DID fall into the Ruins.

Also consider that some characters "mistakenly" recognize you as Chara, and only later say things like "But you couldn't be them, you're too much nicer". Unless Frisk just happens to look THAT much like Chara. I guess they could have been from the same village, or maybe all humans just look alike to monsters.

That gives a REALLY sad twist to what Asgore says during his fight, if he's killed you once and you talk to him. "You tell him he's already killed you once before. Asgore says he believes you." Or something close to that. It's possible that Asgore really does think you're Chara, and this line could be reference to the guilt he feels over Chara dying while he was taking care of them... and why he doesn't think he deserves your mercy. Asgore definitely seems like he's seeing a ghost the whole time leading up to the fight, although that could just be because of his apprehension towards taking any human's life.


But yeah, that's my theory, that Frisk could be Chara's remains reanimated 1000 years later.

[Bananarchist]

Originally posted by SigFloyd:

From what I understand the character you named (I named her Loli) is already dead at the start of the game, and is at least partially possessing Frisk after he fell. Once you get to the endgame of a pacifist run, Frisk breaks free of that spirit. As for the player I think it can go either way. You're either playing as the spirit controlling Frisk during an evil run, or as Frisk resisting the dark urges of the spirit on a neutral/pacifist one.

The named character is the one who first fell into the underworld, and is the one who befriended Asriel and led him astray.

If you hike all the way back to very start of the game, you can have a final chat with what's left of Asriel, and he'll imply Frisk could have been going through a really bad time in his/her life to willingly go to a place where no humans ever return from. I'm kind of surprised that Asriel himself doesn't ask you to put him/Flowey out of his misery for good after the true end. He'll be stuck forever down there stewing in hatred like some biblical figure.

Yeah, I tried to think this way, but for the whole over 16 hours' playing process, I was called with my character name every time I died. I am not good at STG so at last even temy's armor offered me a big discount($750). That makes me believe that I am the character. So it is really disturbing that they keep calling me Frisk.

[Bananarchist]

Originally posted by CrashFu:

I don't think Frisk's origins have been established in detail, BUT my personal headcanon / theory is that Frisk actually is the revived body of Chara. There are clues all over that support this theory, if not conclusively prove it.

For example, if you found the coffins off to the side of Asgore's throne room, the one with Frisk's-color heart on the lid has Chara's name, and is empty. You find out that this is because Chara's body was taken and buried under some flowers after their death. Those flowers were the same type as the ones used in Alphys' Determination-injection experiments, and so its possible they could have actually BEEN determination-infused flowers.

If that was the case, it would be entirely possible that the Determination seeped out of the flowers, into Chara's body underneath, bringing it back to life, but missing MOST of their memory (and thus having a clean start) because Chara's soul had already left their body and gotten absorbed by Asriel.. that explains the flashes of dialogue you get directed towards Chara here and there, it's old memories resurfacing.

Another clue to support this theory is that you start the game wearing bandages, and if you went back and examined Chara's coffin AFTER beating the game, there's an added line about there being some sort of bandages on the floor beside it... although I can't recall if it was possible to open the Stat menu before meeting Flowey/Toriel that first time, so it could very well be those bandages were applied by her when she heals your (possible) flower-inflicted wounds... or for wounds you might have sustained if this theory is completely bogus and Frisk DID fall into the Ruins.

Also consider that some characters "mistakenly" recognize you as Chara, and only later say things like "But you couldn't be them, you're too much nicer". Unless Frisk just happens to look THAT much like Chara. I guess they could have been from the same village, or maybe all humans just look alike to monsters.

That gives a REALLY sad twist to what Asgore says during his fight, if he's killed you once and you talk to him. "You tell him he's already killed you once before. Asgore says he believes you." Or something close to that. It's possible that Asgore really does think you're Chara, and this line could be reference to the guilt he feels over Chara dying while he was taking care of them... and why he doesn't think he deserves your mercy. Asgore definitely seems like he's seeing a ghost the whole time leading up to the fight, although that could just be because of his apprehension towards taking any human's life.


But yeah, that's my theory, that Frisk could be Chara's remains reanimated 1000 years later.

Wow thanks for such a long explaination! I haven't checked the bandage yet, maybe later. But what confuses me is that every time I die, the GAME OVER scene will call my chara name. So you mean that this is because the soul of Frisk is a fusion of himself and chara? And also, if the chara was the first human child to fall underground, and the one who made friends with Asriel, why should his coffin be at the outside rather than inside of the room? The position of the coffin made me think that it is just prepared for my chara.

[Arlyeon [Crit Hit]]

Actually. them calling your character name is a flashback.

[Arlyeon [Crit Hit]]

You are -possessed- by Chara. So you get flashes of their memories when you die.

[Jake the Human]

Originally posted by 九脂神钙:

Originally posted by CrashFu:

I don't think Frisk's origins have been established in detail, BUT my personal headcanon / theory is that Frisk actually is the revived body of Chara. There are clues all over that support this theory, if not conclusively prove it.

For example, if you found the coffins off to the side of Asgore's throne room, the one with Frisk's-color heart on the lid has Chara's name, and is empty. You find out that this is because Chara's body was taken and buried under some flowers after their death. Those flowers were the same type as the ones used in Alphys' Determination-injection experiments, and so its possible they could have actually BEEN determination-infused flowers.

If that was the case, it would be entirely possible that the Determination seeped out of the flowers, into Chara's body underneath, bringing it back to life, but missing MOST of their memory (and thus having a clean start) because Chara's soul had already left their body and gotten absorbed by Asriel.. that explains the flashes of dialogue you get directed towards Chara here and there, it's old memories resurfacing.

Another clue to support this theory is that you start the game wearing bandages, and if you went back and examined Chara's coffin AFTER beating the game, there's an added line about there being some sort of bandages on the floor beside it... although I can't recall if it was possible to open the Stat menu before meeting Flowey/Toriel that first time, so it could very well be those bandages were applied by her when she heals your (possible) flower-inflicted wounds... or for wounds you might have sustained if this theory is completely bogus and Frisk DID fall into the Ruins.

Also consider that some characters "mistakenly" recognize you as Chara, and only later say things like "But you couldn't be them, you're too much nicer". Unless Frisk just happens to look THAT much like Chara. I guess they could have been from the same village, or maybe all humans just look alike to monsters.

That gives a REALLY sad twist to what Asgore says during his fight, if he's killed you once and you talk to him. "You tell him he's already killed you once before. Asgore says he believes you." Or something close to that. It's possible that Asgore really does think you're Chara, and this line could be reference to the guilt he feels over Chara dying while he was taking care of them... and why he doesn't think he deserves your mercy. Asgore definitely seems like he's seeing a ghost the whole time leading up to the fight, although that could just be because of his apprehension towards taking any human's life.


But yeah, that's my theory, that Frisk could be Chara's remains reanimated 1000 years later.

Wow thanks for such a long explaination! I haven't checked the bandage yet, maybe later. But what confuses me is that every time I die, the GAME OVER scene will call my chara name. So you mean that this is because the soul of Frisk is a fusion of himself and chara? And also, if the chara was the first human child to fall underground, and the one who made friends with Asriel, why should his coffin be at the outside rather than inside of the room? The position of the coffin made me think that it is just prepared for my chara.

I will have to agree that the coffin for Chara is perplexing. But...

Have either of you seen/noticed the other coffins in the Pacifist ending?

....

They are all open. The six dead humans are all alive again.

So, the whole Jesus-style reanimation thing that I first thought of when it said there were only wrappings left in the tomb may have well been another biblical reference.

[Bananarchist]

Originally posted by ~*Arlyeon*~:

You are -possessed- by Chara. So you get flashes of their memories when you die.

I have just covered a long journey back to the ruin and saw Asriel again. It seems like that from his words.
I don't know how to judge but this may not be a perfect design for me. The changing of Chara is some kind of ludonarrative.
Now I am going to step on my way back to castle. What the hell~

[Bananarchist]

Originally posted by Jake the Human:

Originally posted by 九脂神钙:

Wow thanks for such a long explaination! I haven't checked the bandage yet, maybe later. But what confuses me is that every time I die, the GAME OVER scene will call my chara name. So you mean that this is because the soul of Frisk is a fusion of himself and chara? And also, if the chara was the first human child to fall underground, and the one who made friends with Asriel, why should his coffin be at the outside rather than inside of the room? The position of the coffin made me think that it is just prepared for my chara.

I will have to agree that the coffin for Chara is perplexing. But...

Have either of you seen/noticed the other coffins in the Pacifist ending?

....

They are all open. The six dead humans are all alive again.

So, the whole Jesus-style reanimation thing that I first thought of when it said there were only wrappings left in the tomb may have well been another biblical reference.

Oh I am now on my way from the very beginning back to the castle. I'll see if I could find anything. This game just made me spare everything during my spare weekend. Now my weekend ends~

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Chara was the first human that fell into the underground in 201X. Chara's determination to break the barrier and destroy humanity was so strong they lived on as a spirit of pure DETERMINATION.

Chara led all 6 humans before Frisk giving them hope by momentarily giving them the power to SAVE and RESET. Only to abandon each one of them to die at the hands of Asgore so Chara could eventually gain all 7 human souls they needed to break the barrier.

Frisk happened to be the 7th and final human Chara needed for their plan. Instead of abandoning him like the others. Chara (observing Asriel/Flowey's actions) decided to allow Frisk to use their SAVE and RESET ability as they pleased. However, in the end Chara would always reset everything until Frisk became bored and curious enough after the relentless cycles.

Eventually Frisk would break and murder every single monster just to see how it would change things. Then with the combined powers of the human souls, including Frisk's, and all the monster souls Frisk absorbed by murdering every boss monster... Chara would become a god able to destroy everything, humans and monsters.

YOU as the player are role-playing as Chara throughout every cycle of the game, leading Frisk with your DETERMINATION. Frisk is just the avatar you happen to be using. Of course however, when the Genocide Ending happens and Chara comes back, they're so strong that even your role-playing can't control them anymore.

[Bananarchist]

Originally posted by DarkLordWiggles:

Chara was the first human that fell into the underground in 201X. Chara's determination to break the barrier and destroy humanity was so strong they lived on as a spirit of pure DETERMINATION.

Chara led all 6 humans before Frisk giving them hope by momentarily giving them the power to SAVE and RESET. Only to abandon each one of them to die at the hands of Asgore so Chara could eventually gain all 7 human souls they needed to break the barrier.

Frisk happened to be the 7th and final human Chara needed for their plan. Instead of abandoning him like the others. Chara (observing Asriel/Flowey's actions) decided to allow Frisk to use their SAVE and RESET ability as they pleased. However, in the end Chara would always reset everything until Frisk became bored and curious enough after the relentless cycles.

Eventually Frisk would break and murder every single monster just to see how it would change things. Then with the combined powers of the human souls, including Frisk's, and all the monster souls Frisk absorbed by murdering every boss monster... Chara would become a god able to destroy everything, humans and monsters.

YOU as the player are role-playing as Chara throughout every cycle of the game, leading Frisk with your DETERMINATION. Frisk is just the avatar you happen to be using. Of course however, when the Genocide Ending happens and Chara comes back, they're so strong that even your role-playing can't control them anymore.

Wow...it seems that this explanation makes the Chara just out of the game...maybe Toby Fox just like this...