[spoilers here] True pacifist ending question

[NoWolfie]

What happens if you will kill/harm lost souls in end of pacifist route?

[CyperAleksi]

You will miss the attack. Thus it is impossible to harm them. Same with the boss (and lab enemies).

[NoWolfie]

Originally posted by CyperAleksi:

You will miss the attack. Thus it is impossible to harm them. Same with the boss.

Oh. Thanks

[Pizzarugi]

I don't think you can actually harm the amalgamates, but something tells me if it's possible, it probably won't make a difference.

Amalgamates are actually monsters still living, but fused together due to determination overload. However, given their spectral forms, fighting them would be like fighting Naptablook or the Mad Dummy. They can't die.

[NoWolfie]

Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:

I don't think you can actually harm the amalgamates, but something tells me if it's possible, it probably won't make a difference.

Amalgamates are actually monsters still living, but fused together due to determination overload. However, given their spectral forms, fighting them would be like fighting Naptablook or the Mad Dummy. They can't die.

I meant Toriel's soul/ Sans's soul / etc

[Pizzarugi]

Originally posted by IIWOLFII:

Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:

I don't think you can actually harm the amalgamates, but something tells me if it's possible, it probably won't make a difference.

Amalgamates are actually monsters still living, but fused together due to determination overload. However, given their spectral forms, fighting them would be like fighting Naptablook or the Mad Dummy. They can't die.

I meant Toriel's soul/ Sans's soul / etc

Oh, my bad. First time that question ever popped up for me.

Then yeah, no, you can't harm lost souls. You're pretty much locked into pacifism at that point.

[CyperAleksi]

A bit off-topic, but fun fact about the amalmagates: I messed with the stats with the use of Cheat Engine and managed to kill them. This seemingly changed nothing, however.

Did the same with nonkillable Mettaton.

[NoWolfie]

Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:

Originally posted by IIWOLFII:

I meant Toriel's soul/ Sans's soul / etc

Oh, my bad. First time that question ever popped up for me.

Then yeah, no, you can't harm lost souls. You're pretty much locked into pacifism at that point.

k then. Would be really good to get feels overflow by making it possible to harm they somehow

[NoWolfie]

Originally posted by CyperAleksi:

A bit off-topic, but fun fact about the amalmagates: I messed with the stats with the use of Cheat Engine and managed to kill them. This seemingly changed nothing, however.

Did the same with nonkillable Mettaton.

ok. Thanks

[KILAH4716]

I don't know if it's as soon as you receive the letter for Alphys or after you go on a date with her, but after one of those two points, you'll stop getting monster encounters with only a handful of special cases: the Amalgamates in the True Lab, Asriel Dreemurr, and the lost souls he's consumed, neither of them you can deal any kind of damage.

Once you receive Undyne's letter to Alphys/go on a date with Alphys, you are dedicated to the true pacifist route, and you cannot kill anything.

[NoWolfie]

thank you

[joshuabaker121]

Originally posted by KILAH4716:

I don't know if it's as soon as you receive the letter for Alphys or after you go on a date with her, but after one of those two points, you'll stop getting monster encounters with only a handful of special cases: the Amalgamates in the True Lab, Asriel Dreemurr, and the lost souls he's consumed, neither of them you can deal any kind of damage.

Once you receive Undyne's letter to Alphys/go on a date with Alphys, you are dedicated to the true pacifist route, and you cannot kill anything.

Actually, even after the Alphys date, you can still get a neutral ending by going to fight Asgore (and can even choose to kill him) without having entered the True Lab. I tried it once to see what would happen: it altered some of the ending phone-call dialogue, but it was still a neutral ending.

But other than that, yes: you're locked into pacifist once you've entered the True Lab (unless you reset, of course).

[Lushara]

how do i get to the dating alphys thing so i cant hit things

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by KILAH4716:

I don't know if it's as soon as you receive the letter for Alphys or after you go on a date with her, but after one of those two points, you'll stop getting monster encounters with only a handful of special cases: the Amalgamates in the True Lab, Asriel Dreemurr, and the lost souls he's consumed, neither of them you can deal any kind of damage.

Once you receive Undyne's letter to Alphys/go on a date with Alphys, you are dedicated to the true pacifist route, and you cannot kill anything.

I think random encounters for each section of the game stop once you beat the boss at the end of them. This is why you fail genocide if you beat the boss before meeting the kill quota.

So all random encounters stop once you beat Mettaton EX.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by alicorn2013:

how do i get to the dating alphys thing so i cant hit things

You have to defeat Asgore and get the neutral ending first. Afterwards, you can reload your save and backtrack to get the call and letter from Undyne.

But note that you’ll only get the call if you’ve already done Undyne’s “date”. If you haven’t, you’ll need to go do that, and she’ll give you the letter at the end of the scene.