Undertale

Undertale

Chellfish Dec 11, 2015 @ 7:10am
Is Frisk even human?
I don't know if this has already been brought up yet, but it's a question that's been on my mind for a while now. The main reasoning is this; every time you die in game, your soul doesn't maintain itself, just like a monster's sould would. All the other human soulds we see in game sustained themselves after death. There's also the fact that many charaters in game have trouble recognizing you as a human. Of course, Frisk probably isn't entirely monster, either, what with the whole Determination thing. I'm kinda leaning towards Frisk being a Flowey antithesis, with flowey being neither human nor monster and souless, while Frisk is both monster and human with a soul.
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Kain Dec 11, 2015 @ 7:14am 
Did pursuit the other endings? It's explained why the humans are so much more powerful than well, humans from our world.
Chellfish Dec 11, 2015 @ 7:35am 
I do get that, as far as the story goes, humans are in general much stronger than monsters. My point is that it's rather weird that the other six human souls are always intact whilst Frisk's ends up breaking upon death.
paegodude Dec 11, 2015 @ 7:50am 
SPOILERS (so people don't get pissy)
I'd assume that the human souls that the Kings has were harvested and preserved by whoever the Royal Scientist was at the time (many speculate that it was Gaster). When Asgore fights you, be brings you to the barrier, where the other souls are ready to be brought up in their own containment tubes. I'm assuming that he has a way to harvest the soul before it shatters. Also, only boss monsters like Toriel and Asgore show their soul after they die, and it acts just like Frisk's. The other monsters just turn to dusk straight away and you never see their soul. I also think Frisk's ability to save and reset effects their soul a bit as well, but I don't really have anything to back that theory up.
Also, Frisk's soul is red, and only human souls are colored. Monster souls are white/grey
Crystalitar Dec 11, 2015 @ 7:55am 
I think frisk could be mistaken for a mummy.... could indicate why frisk is yellow :p
Chellfish Dec 11, 2015 @ 8:18am 
yeah, I guess its kinda hard to prove it either way honestly, so its best just to assume that Frisk is human and be done with it.
It is interesting how that is in the game, though. Surely there could have been a way to show the heart dying without it breaking up in about the same way as Toriel and Asgore.

Another thing that has always bugged me is the absence of Chara's body in game. We know that Asriel brought it back with him to the underworld, so where is it? It's not in the coffin with his/her name on it, we know that too. Maybe Toriel took it with her into the Ruins?
FlaringK Dec 12, 2015 @ 4:10am 
Originally posted by Kain:
Did pursuit the other endings? It's explained why the humans are so much more powerful than well, humans from our world.
Well considering how much stronger humans are, added with monsters only attacking Frisk's soul (for some reason?), it's possible that frisk never died but just lost his soul and survided like flowey. Then again, Flowey only lived because of the doctor... this theory makes no sense but hey it was a valid point.
Jamchow Dec 12, 2015 @ 6:34am 
Originally posted by Chellfish:
Another thing that has always bugged me is the absence of Chara's body in game. We know that Asriel brought it back with him to the underworld, so where is it? It's not in the coffin with his/her name on it, we know that too. Maybe Toriel took it with her into the Ruins?

There's a theory that the pile of leaves you land on are Chara's grave.
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Date Posted: Dec 11, 2015 @ 7:10am
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