Undertale

Undertale

Clord Oct 18, 2015 @ 1:38pm
Maybe the monsters history about the war is wrong
Now, when nation goes to war, not everyone actively particate in it and the history is written by the survivors.

The truth could be that there were heavy casualties on the both sides but the monsters ultimately lost and those who surrendered had no real clue what was going on, believing only what they were told or something.

Then after the humans defeasted the last remaiming monster troops, they gave mercy to their civilians but wanted to make sure that they will not threaten them again anytime soon, so they imprisoned them to the mountain.

Now what the monsters know and wrote about it, makes them sound like "good guys" but they have no idea of truth.
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musicalcakes Oct 18, 2015 @ 1:50pm 
There's no evidence for this. We know from both lore and gameplay that monsters are weak enough that a child with a stick can kill them. If a monster took a human's soul in the war, they would probably be lauded as a hero.

However, the game tells us that not a single human soul was taken. There's no reason to believe this is a lie.
Pizzarugi Oct 18, 2015 @ 1:57pm 
I'd like to know what sparked the humans into starting the war. The signs say it was the discovery of monsters being able to take human souls.

How was this discovered? Who was the first monster to take a human soul? What did the monster do with all of that power, to scare the humans into going to war?
Diesel Oct 18, 2015 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:
I'd like to know what sparked the humans into starting the war. The signs say it was the discovery of monsters being able to take human souls.

How was this discovered? Who was the first monster to take a human soul? What did the monster do with all of that power, to scare the humans into going to war?

Probably natural reasons, human died of old age > Monster absorbed soul for some reason> Monster turned into a demonic beast > Humans thought that if to many of them died for natural reasons the monsters would be more powerful than them. So the humans acted first while they were still more powerful so this never happened.

Thats my most reasonable guess. Also, it depends on the soul of the human, if a sociopath like chara died and took control of a monster through it's sole like chara tried to do to Asriel it might of gone on a killing spree.
Last edited by Diesel; Oct 18, 2015 @ 4:02pm
R3sistance Oct 18, 2015 @ 5:33pm 
It was basically just fear, as it says. Humans feared that monsters would absorb human souls and become stronger than humans for doing so.

Of course this all shows how Asgore didn't really want war considering he had 6 souls and didn't consume even a single one. If he absorbed all 6 he could have gone outside killed a single person (or found a soul) and broke the Barrier.... he really just didn't want to deal with humans anymore

Naturally some of the monsters aren't happy about all that the humans have done to them, even tho monsters in undertale aren't a match to humans since humans have something the majority of monsthers do not, DETERMINATION, most monsters only have very small amounts of determination.... since their magical bodies can't handle much.
Last edited by R3sistance; Oct 18, 2015 @ 5:36pm
Strider VM Oct 19, 2015 @ 7:31am 
The biggest issue with that is that a single human (A child even) has the capability to kill every monster in the underground if it wants so.
Daimoknight Oct 19, 2015 @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by StriderVM:
The biggest issue with that is that a single human (A child even) has the capability to kill every monster in the underground if it wants so.

Frisk/Chara only capable of that through their SAVE ability. Realistically they probably would have at least died to Undyne without the ability to undo their own deaths. Monsters are weak but at the same time Frisk/Chara are HAX.
Clord Oct 19, 2015 @ 8:23am 
To be honest, it seems that monsters can stand up to humans, but it isn't their overall nature to defend themselves with violence.

Imagine your army be made out of pacisifts facing an army who is willing to do what they "must" do.

MusicalCakes, this is just something called "speculation." Speculation often is not rooted to some in-game proof, thus speculation.
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