Undertale

Undertale

shinyswablu Oct 14, 2015 @ 8:23pm
Full timeline? [Spoilers!!]
So the only thing I'm confused about anymore is exactly how long all the stuff happened. I first got the impression that Chara fell a long, long time ago, like medieval times long ago, but then after a genocide run realized it could be no longer than 10 years between Chara and Frisk, so that puts every human that fell in an at most ten year time line.
So how long ago were the monsters trapped under there? Most of the monsters make it sound like they had never seen the surface, so it had to of been a while ago. And since Chara is the 'First Child' how did no other human fall in, then suddenly in a short span 7 other children fell in? Further more, who's letting these kids explore a dangerous mountain, especially after the first one didn't come back?
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Randomiser Oct 14, 2015 @ 8:50pm 
I'm curious, what are you judging 10 years off of? I don't think there's a set date the game takes place in. The only year we see is 201X, and that turns out to be only in reference to the date Chara fell, not the current year. It also had to have been long enough that most of the people forgot about Toriel. Monsters have technology that is considered obsolete and thrown away by humans. Frisk's arrival may actually be in the future.

I'm guessing the monsters were originally sealed under the mountain in old times, as you said. As for why there were no humans between that and Chara, I can only guess. Maybe erosion caused the ground to wear down until someone would eventually fall through? And of course, even 1 child disappearing would be enough to cause rumors and legends about it on the surface to grow exponentially. We don't know much about the other humans' personal lives, but it's doubtful they tell their parents they're about to explore a dangerous mountain.
Dread Arkive Oct 14, 2015 @ 8:55pm 
It's a bit depressing, but I tend to lean to the concept that each of the fallen humans has in some way become distraught of life, either in a suicidal or simply "get away from this crap" sort of way. It's most likely that some were abandoned or ran away, possibly going to the mountain due to the rumors. The only fault with this idea is that if they had sought escape from the above world (or life in general), why would they have each then tried to leave the Underground to return to such a place...especially if they were each cared for by Toriel as she suggests? Possibly, having regained a sense of worth thanks to her, they felt renewed Determination to move on with their lives, with which they still felt connected to the surface.
shinyswablu Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:02pm 
Originally posted by Randomiser:
I'm curious, what are you judging 10 years off of? I don't think there's a set date the game takes place in. The only year we see is 201X, and that turns out to be only in reference to the date Chara fell, not the current year. It also had to have been long enough that most of the people forgot about Toriel. Monsters have technology that is considered obsolete and thrown away by humans. Frisk's arrival may actually be in the future.

I'm guessing the monsters were originally sealed under the mountain in old times, as you said. As for why there were no humans between that and Chara, I can only guess. Maybe erosion caused the ground to wear down until someone would eventually fall through? And of course, even 1 child disappearing would be enough to cause rumors and legends about it on the surface to grow exponentially. We don't know much about the other humans' personal lives, but it's doubtful they tell their parents they're about to explore a dangerous mountain.
In the intro, it states the day Frisk fell being some time in 201X, so unless they're 1,000 years apart, it can't be any more than 10 :s So that's even more confusing, that they forgot about her just like that... hrm. But the shopkeep in waterfall who's name escapes me remembers her. I think all the characters we run in to are just fairly young still. But ye.

That's a viable theory, hrm. It just seems strange, but I remember seeing a theory about how Frisk was from an orphanange, and was able to leave because of bad supervision. Maybe all of the kids were from an orphanage. Oh man, that would add a whole new level. If all of them knew each other...
brickey.8 Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:13pm 
Originally posted by shinyswablu:
In the intro, it states the day Frisk fell being some time in 201X, so unless they're 1,000 years apart, it can't be any more than 10 :s So that's even more confusing, that they forgot about her just like that... hrm. But the shopkeep in waterfall who's name escapes me remembers her. I think all the characters we run in to are just fairly young still. But ye.

That's a viable theory, hrm. It just seems strange, but I remember seeing a theory about how Frisk was from an orphanange, and was able to leave because of bad supervision. Maybe all of the kids were from an orphanage. Oh man, that would add a whole new level. If all of them knew each other...

Wrong. The human falling in the intro is the same human you name at the beginning of the game, which is NOT Frisk. In Toriel's house you can find an "old calendar" dated 201X, aka the year that the first human fell.

The intro and the naming sequence is designed to be intentionally misleading without actually lying.
Randomiser Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:15pm 
Originally posted by shinyswablu:
In the intro, it states the day Frisk fell being some time in 201X, so unless they're 1,000 years apart, it can't be any more than 10 :s
As I said, I believe the intro does not portray Frisk, but Chara. Compare their clothes to Frisk, then Chara's clothes. Frisk's shirt has two stripes and matches their pants, while Chara has dark pants and a single stripe on their shirt. Also, the mention that there has only been 1 war between humans and monsters, it's not counting the raid that started after Chara died.

Originally posted by shinyswablu:
That's a viable theory, hrm. It just seems strange, but I remember seeing a theory about how Frisk was from an orphanange, and was able to leave because of bad supervision. Maybe all of the kids were from an orphanage. Oh man, that would add a whole new level. If all of them knew each other...
The orphanage theory comes from how Asriel implies Frisk and Chara must have come for depressing reasons, and that Frisk apparently has no family to return to.
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Space Punk Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:53pm 
201X could mean anything. I know it's common for old school games to have "20XX" or whatever to avoid giving a specific date, but Undertale is the kind of game where you shouldn't take things for granted.
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