What's the big deal with Muffet?

[The late Christmas demon]

I'll be honest, I'm not too sure why so many people like here?

Though that isn't to say I think she's a bad character, I just don't feel as attatched to her as I do someone like Papyrus.

[Pizzarugi]

I find the fight with her to be forced and unneeded, same with the mad dummy. They have no impact with the story, they only serve to slow you down.

At least you can completely avoid the fight if you eat a spider donut or spider cider.

They should move Muffet and the mad dummy to an optional area.

[The late Christmas demon]

Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:

I find the fight with her to be forced and unneeded, same with the mad dummy. They have no impact with the story, they only serve to slow you down.

At least you can completely avoid the fight if you eat a spider donut or spider cider.

They should move Muffet and the mad dummy to an optional area.

I guess they were both there to pad out the game?

Difference between the two is that I found the fight with the mad dummy enjoyable.

[Doggy Davis]

She is the only bosses who changes the heart's colour who isn't a major character.

[Pizzarugi]

Originally posted by Merlin | trade.tf:

Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:

I find the fight with her to be forced and unneeded, same with the mad dummy. They have no impact with the story, they only serve to slow you down.

At least you can completely avoid the fight if you eat a spider donut or spider cider.

They should move Muffet and the mad dummy to an optional area.

I guess they were both there to pad out the game?

Difference between the two is that I found the fight with the mad dummy enjoyable.

Yeah, that makes sense. At least the fight with the dummy was fun and not all that difficult. It was still padded and forced.

Since you meet him anyway as the training dummy at Undyne's house, maybe you can initiate the fight with him there, optionally of course.

[Doggy Davis]

Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:

Originally posted by Merlin | trade.tf:

I guess they were both there to pad out the game?

Difference between the two is that I found the fight with the mad dummy enjoyable.

Yeah, that makes sense. At least the fight with the dummy was fun and not all that difficult. It was still padded and forced.

Since you meet him anyway as the training dummy at Undyne's house, maybe you can initiate the fight with him there, optionally of course.

Maybe make it so you only fight him if you killed the first dummy. That's how I thought it worked at first.

[Samael]

The design's pretty endearing if thats your kind of thing and she's kind of a punchline to a joke established way back in the ruins. The fight has unique mechanics (but pretty much every boss-type enemy does) and it goes really well with the music. Pacingwise, there's kind of the feel to need a boss there after the puzzley stuff, much like Mad Dummy earlier on.

Honestly, a lot of the things with Mad Dummy also occurr with Muffet and, even earlier, a little with Napstablook - an inescapable battle you need to do to progress with and, generally speaking, is thematically linked as a miniboss you have to get through. They even use variants of the same theme no less. Muffet is the culmination of this reccurring riff (musically and mechanically) through the game. Combined with being adorable, something about the character just clicks for people with the game and its timing.

I know a bunch of people who find the encounter kind of frustrating but I'm not one of them - I think its a pretty fun battle and I already love the variants of the theme and the Mad Dummy fight was probably my favourite battle up to that point. I think its a really nicely designed boss fight that answers echoes from earlier in the game but that's absolutely subjective and not gonna be the case for everyone.

To echo things said earlier in the topic though, some people do just like her cos she's a cute character in a frilly dress and that just works for them, I guess.

[-vox dirae-]

muffet's fight has the best music in the game.

[Dazeychain]

I'm very passionate about spiders.

[Dread Arkive]

Wasn't she created by a backer or something? Probably gave her that battle segment as part of her "purchase".

[dat_potatoe]

She's a minor character for sure, but still an enjoyable one.

[Dazeychain]

Originally posted by Dread Arkive:

Wasn't she created by a backer or something? Probably gave her that battle segment as part of her "purchase".

I think it was the highest reward tier, too.

Doesn't hurt that she's a new character and does fit reasonably well in the game, unlike the pre-existing So Sorry and Glyde who's kind of random.

[Inny【🐭】Nazrin]

Fantroll insert. Reward tier kickstarter character.

infinitely better than So sorry

[Pizzarugi]

Originally posted by Fusion:

Originally posted by treboucher:

muffet's fight has the best music in the game.

Nopls
nonono
Asgore
yudodis

Asgore and Stage 1 Omega Asriel

[Pizzarugi]

Originally posted by Fusion:

Originally posted by T Fur 2 Pizzarugi:

Asgore and Stage 1 Omega Asriel

I also really like True Hero

That's the name? Sounds better.

[Chara the Explorer]

I liked her, especially since she was designed by a kickstarter backer who donated a lot of cash. She brings a new playstyle, her music is awesome, and her character is rather endearing.

Though it is a shame that, aside from the bake sale in the ruins, she pretty much exists in a vacuum.