Undertale
Zeox 2016년 1월 28일 오후 4시 00분
What will happen if the human stayed in the ruins
So, think about this for a sec... Toriel and the human, living together, in such a small place, with no other monsters than a bunch of froggits and talking carrots... and at first maybe everything will be fine, Toriel can be a mother, a friend and a teacher for the human, and the human will not need anything more than friends, family and education... that... until puberty.... then, the human will need a love interest because that's what usually happens, and since the human is gonna live in the ruins for all their lifes... well.... I don't think i need to say anything more.
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Zeox 2016년 1월 29일 오전 3시 56분 
StigmataErrata님이 먼저 게시:
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The only ones who will know about the human will be the monsters from the ruins... that don't leave the ruins, a ghost that i doubt it would say anything... and a skeleton that it's too lazy to say anything.
If the human dies of old age, Toriel could just leave the ruins with the Soul, give the soul to Asgore and destroy the barrier.

But how would Toriel even carry the soul? as a single touch would just make Toriel absorb the soul.
Well, Asgore have the 6 souls inside containers, she can put the soul in something similar.
Igƞis 2016년 1월 29일 오전 3시 59분 
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
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But how would Toriel even carry the soul? as a single touch would just make Toriel absorb the soul.
Well, Asgore have the 6 souls inside containers, she can put the soul in something similar.

How would she get a hold of them? as the ruins so far i have seen does not have anything like that.
Zeox 2016년 1월 29일 오전 4시 54분 
StigmataErrata님이 먼저 게시:
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
Well, Asgore have the 6 souls inside containers, she can put the soul in something similar.

How would she get a hold of them? as the ruins so far i have seen does not have anything like that.
Well, if she can grab a soul or put the soul in a box ox with a spoon, then she can absorb the soul, go to Asgore home, absorb the other 6 souls, destroy the barrier and then liberate the souls.
RAGLOKO 2016년 1월 29일 오후 1시 32분 
Another possibility is that Frisk grows old, decides to free the monsters, and willingly goes to Asgore to destroy the barrier right before he/she dies.
Zeox 2016년 1월 29일 오후 2시 35분 
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:
Another possibility is that Frisk grows old, decides to free the monsters, and willingly goes to Asgore to destroy the barrier right before he/she dies.
So, living his/her last days of life in new home...
And now a question... what if after the best neutral ending possible, Frisk decided to NOT leave the underground? I mean, everyone thought it was Frisk the one who killed Asgore, maybe they get mad, but at the same time, everyone is Frisk friend, they know her/him, so maybe if he/she explains about the flower, they will believe her/him.
RAGLOKO 2016년 1월 29일 오후 3시 09분 
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:
Another possibility is that Frisk grows old, decides to free the monsters, and willingly goes to Asgore to destroy the barrier right before he/she dies.
So, living his/her last days of life in new home...
And now a question... what if after the best neutral ending possible, Frisk decided to NOT leave the underground? I mean, everyone thought it was Frisk the one who killed Asgore, maybe they get mad, but at the same time, everyone is Frisk friend, they know her/him, so maybe if he/she explains about the flower, they will believe her/him.

I can imagine while his/her friends will believe him/her. Most of the monsters may either attack Frisk out of anger for seemingly killing Asgore, or others may decide that Toriels plan of being nice to the humans is asanine. So they may take matter into their own hands. While it's possible for the human to live happily under ground. Frisk would have to hide in the ruins, walk outside with 24/7 protection.
RAGLOKO 2016년 1월 29일 오후 3시 14분 
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:
Another possibility is that Frisk grows old, decides to free the monsters, and willingly goes to Asgore to destroy the barrier right before he/she dies.
So, living his/her last days of life in new home...
And now a question... what if after the best neutral ending possible, Frisk decided to NOT leave the underground? I mean, everyone thought it was Frisk the one who killed Asgore, maybe they get mad, but at the same time, everyone is Frisk friend, they know her/him, so maybe if he/she explains about the flower, they will believe her/him.

Oh, and their might be a uprising. As do remember that not only will most of the monsters will be angry that Toriel still protects humans despite what they did (and supposedly with Asgores death). But most would see her as trying to take away the one chance of freedom they have, and most don't even know her as she was gone for years. So as a result, outside of those who know her. They may see her as a stranger trying to undermine thwir freedom. And if she is overthrown, then she and Frisk will have to hide out in Snowdens forest, or will have to hide in Alphys secret lab for the rest of their lives.
Zeox 2016년 1월 29일 오후 3시 15분 
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
So, living his/her last days of life in new home...
And now a question... what if after the best neutral ending possible, Frisk decided to NOT leave the underground? I mean, everyone thought it was Frisk the one who killed Asgore, maybe they get mad, but at the same time, everyone is Frisk friend, they know her/him, so maybe if he/she explains about the flower, they will believe her/him.

I can imagine while his/her friends will believe him/her. Most of the monsters may either attack Frisk out of anger for seemingly killing Asgore, or others may decide that Toriels plan of being nice to the humans is asanine. So they may take matter into their own hands. While it's possible for the human to live happily under ground. Frisk would have to hide in the ruins, walk outside with 24/7 protection.
But when Frisk leaves, Toriel says that every human that falls down should be treated as a friend, and if they believe her when Frisk is not there, then if Frisk is there i think they will end accepting what he/she said.
I mean, probably at first there is some problems, but c'mon, if Frisk didn't leave the undeground with Asgore's soul, he/she have a good excuse to say that the one who killed Asgore wasn't her/him.
Zeox 2016년 1월 29일 오후 3시 17분 
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
So, living his/her last days of life in new home...
And now a question... what if after the best neutral ending possible, Frisk decided to NOT leave the underground? I mean, everyone thought it was Frisk the one who killed Asgore, maybe they get mad, but at the same time, everyone is Frisk friend, they know her/him, so maybe if he/she explains about the flower, they will believe her/him.

Oh, and their might be a uprising. As do remember that not only will most of the monsters will be angry that Toriel still protects humans despite what they did (and supposedly with Asgores death). But most would see her as trying to take away the one chance of freedom they have, and most don't even know her as she was gone for years. So as a result, outside of those who know her. They may see her as a stranger trying to undermine thwir freedom. And if she is overthrown, then she and Frisk will have to hide out in Snowdens forest, or will have to hide in Alphys secret lab for the rest of their lives.
But that's just when you kill Papyrus because Undyne convices the monsters, or when you kill Papyrus and Undyne because the monsters are scared, if even Undyne is with the human, i think they can convice the monsters about the good intentions of Frisk
RAGLOKO 2016년 1월 29일 오후 3시 29분 
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:

Oh, and their might be a uprising. As do remember that not only will most of the monsters will be angry that Toriel still protects humans despite what they did (and supposedly with Asgores death). But most would see her as trying to take away the one chance of freedom they have, and most don't even know her as she was gone for years. So as a result, outside of those who know her. They may see her as a stranger trying to undermine thwir freedom. And if she is overthrown, then she and Frisk will have to hide out in Snowdens forest, or will have to hide in Alphys secret lab for the rest of their lives.
But that's just when you kill Papyrus because Undyne convices the monsters, or when you kill Papyrus and Undyne because the monsters are scared, if even Undyne is with the human, i think they can convice the monsters about the good intentions of Frisk

Perhaps. Though it would take time. And even then some may still want to see all humans burn for attacking them unprovoked, sealing them underground, killing Asriel, and Asgore dying. Finally most were raised under the idea of going to war with humans, so I wouldn't be suprise if a group of monsters plan, and manage to assasinate Frisk just to escape.
Zeox 2016년 1월 29일 오후 3시 36분 
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
But that's just when you kill Papyrus because Undyne convices the monsters, or when you kill Papyrus and Undyne because the monsters are scared, if even Undyne is with the human, i think they can convice the monsters about the good intentions of Frisk

Perhaps. Though it would take time. And even then some may still want to see all humans burn for attacking them unprovoked, sealing them underground, killing Asriel, and Asgore dying. Finally most were raised under the idea of going to war with humans, so I wouldn't be suprise if a group of monsters plan, and manage to assasinate Frisk just to escape.
Probably the Underground will start with civir wars, but since Frisk become friends with the full royal guards, the most famous monster (mettaton) the queen and almost every monster from snowdin, waterfall and hotland, i think it would be a small group.
And let's be honest, i doubt anyone will be brave enough to go against Undyne, she is the heroine from the underground.
RAGLOKO 2016년 1월 29일 오후 4시 36분 
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:

Perhaps. Though it would take time. And even then some may still want to see all humans burn for attacking them unprovoked, sealing them underground, killing Asriel, and Asgore dying. Finally most were raised under the idea of going to war with humans, so I wouldn't be suprise if a group of monsters plan, and manage to assasinate Frisk just to escape.
Probably the Underground will start with civir wars, but since Frisk become friends with the full royal guards, the most famous monster (mettaton) the queen and almost every monster from snowdin, waterfall and hotland, i think it would be a small group.
And let's be honest, i doubt anyone will be brave enough to go against Undyne, she is the heroine from the underground.

True. Though it's possible that if a small group did form, they would probably try other ways of taking Undayne out such as planting a bomb in her house, or poisoning her. The Same With Frisk as unless he/she is kept under watch. Someone can easily do the same things to him/her, or perhaps cause a "accident " such tearfully telling Toriel that the bridge in Snowden collapsed right when Frisk was halfway through. And how they heroically tried to save Frisk but "failed".
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Zeox 2016년 1월 29일 오후 4시 43분 
RAGLOKO님이 먼저 게시:
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Probably the Underground will start with civir wars, but since Frisk become friends with the full royal guards, the most famous monster (mettaton) the queen and almost every monster from snowdin, waterfall and hotland, i think it would be a small group.
And let's be honest, i doubt anyone will be brave enough to go against Undyne, she is the heroine from the underground.

True. Though it's possible that if a small group did form, they would probably try other ways of taking Undayne out such as planting a bomb in her house, or poisoning her. The Same With Frisk as unless he/she is kept under watch. Someone can easily do the same things to him/her, or perhaps cause a "accident " such tearfully telling Toriel that the bridge in Snowden collapsed right when Frisk was halfway through.
Only a souless creature like flowey will do something that awful.
Monsters are not like humans, i mean, nobody tried to kill Frisk when he/she was in snowdin and they where supposed to kill every human they see, they are not that evil, they will never kill their heroine, and i doubt they will kill the human. and since the 6 other human souls are gone, killing just Frisk will be useless.
Dragon Fist Ent 2016년 1월 29일 오후 5시 16분 
you guys realize they have a way to check and see if a human has killed anyone. LV remember and if this truely is the best outcome for nutral route frisk should have next to no exp. I think frisk would be fine after explaining the situation.
Tim Timsen 2016년 1월 29일 오후 5시 18분 
Frisk님이 먼저 게시:
So, think about this for a sec... Toriel and the human, living together, in such a small place, with no other monsters than a bunch of froggits and talking carrots... and at first maybe everything will be fine, Toriel can be a mother, a friend and a teacher for the human, and the human will not need anything more than friends, family and education... that... until puberty.... then, the human will need a love interest because that's what usually happens, and since the human is gonna live in the ruins for all their lifes... well.... I don't think i need to say anything more.
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