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Goatcheese Jan 21, 2016 @ 3:26pm
[SPOILERS] Undyne the Undying Giving you a spear.
So in the pacifist fight with Undyne if you get hit with all of her attacks and try to mercy her she eventually say "Look. I gave you a spear to block the bullets with. Do I have to explain this any more clearly?" She gave you a spear to block her bullets with and the player sees this spear as a straight blueish line with another line coming down from one end.

But in the fight with Undyne the Undying's fight you have that exact same spear that you use to defend youself with.

So why would she still give you the spear if she truly wanted to kill you?
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Punsexual Jan 21, 2016 @ 3:30pm 
Probably so that it would be fair fight,other then that I don't really know
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Goatcheese Jan 21, 2016 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by Flowey the Flower:
Probably so that it would be fair fight,other then that I don't really know
Ya I thought of that. But it seems like she really wants you dead and if that's the case she would give you a spear. So I almost feel like it was taken by force.
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CyperAleksi Jan 21, 2016 @ 3:36pm 
That's possible. :flowey:
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Punsexual Jan 21, 2016 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by TheSkyUppercutBlaziken:
Originally posted by Flowey the Flower:
Probably so that it would be fair fight,other then that I don't really know
Ya I thought of that. But it seems like she really wants you dead and if that's the case she would give you a spear. So I almost feel like it was taken by force.
That could be a possibilty as well
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Goatcheese Jan 21, 2016 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by Flowey the Flower:
Originally posted by TheSkyUppercutBlaziken:
Ya I thought of that. But it seems like she really wants you dead and if that's the case she would give you a spear. So I almost feel like it was taken by force.
That could be a possibilty as well
And if you did take it by force when. My best guess is during the time where she is talking to monster kid and is fading.
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Miles Bluefalls Jan 21, 2016 @ 4:23pm 
Pacifist: she's giving it to you
Genocide: she's trying to hit your with it and you're yoinking it.

How's that?
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fernquest Jan 21, 2016 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by Miles Bluefalls:
Pacifist: she's giving it to you
Genocide: she's trying to hit your with it and you're yoinking it.

How's that?

makes sence i think she give it to u just cause you didnt do any thing bad but they need your soul so she doesnt want to kill a child who was defence less at least now its somewhat fair:demoticon:
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Goatcheese Jan 21, 2016 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Miles Bluefalls:
Pacifist: she's giving it to you
Genocide: she's trying to hit your with it and you're yoinking it.

How's that?
Maybe. But I feel like if that is what actually true Toby would have made blocking with the spear feel more resistive. Idk, I was just wondering thinks and trying to find meaning where there might not be any.

None the less I still love to hear other peoples theories as to why this is.
Last edited by Goatcheese; Jan 21, 2016 @ 4:39pm
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LuckyN13 Jan 21, 2016 @ 4:42pm 
She truely doesnt want to hurt you, explains this in the game. She learned how to fight from Asgore, who never fought back during their fights and never struck her once. She is tough but actually merciful.
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Local58 Jan 21, 2016 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by Miles Bluefalls:
Pacifist: she's giving it to you
Genocide: she's trying to hit your with it and you're yoinking it.

How's that?


what does 'Yoinking' mean????
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Goatcheese Jan 21, 2016 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by LuckyN13:
She truely doesnt want to hurt you, explains this in the game. She learned how to fight from Asgore, who never fought back during their fights and never struck her once. She is tough but actually merciful.
This does make a lot of sense, but the only thing holding me back from 100% accepting this theory is that right before the fight starts she says to you
"I, UNDYNE, will strike you down!"
If that doesn't have killing intentions I don't know what does.
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Goatcheese Jan 21, 2016 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by SCCronotekk:
Because if you didn't have the spear you wouldn't be green.
If you weren't green then half her attacks would be useless.
Maybe it is just as simple as, you have the spear in the genocide run because that game mechanic was introduced with Undyne in the pacifist run so keep it the same for consistency.

But I would find it really cool if having the spear in the genocide run had some more significance.
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ManlyMan (Banned) Jan 21, 2016 @ 5:35pm 
Because then the fight would literally be impossible.
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JodiYF Jan 21, 2016 @ 5:38pm 
Perhaps the spear is a side effect of turning you green?(So she didn't literally give you the spear, but it came with the green SOUL)
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Goatcheese Jan 21, 2016 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by ManlyMan:
Because then the fight would literally be impossible.


Originally posted by TheAvengingGamer:
Perhaps the spear is a side effect of turning you green?(So she didn't literally give you the spear, but it came with the green SOUL)
Ya these are both probably why you have the spear. But i would find it really cool if it had more significance.
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