How does Frisk cross the barrier in a neutral run?

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How does Frisk cross the barrier in a neutral run? To cross the barrier both a monster soul and a human soul are needed. Flowey killed Asgore and Frisk could not have taken his soul because we see it destroyed by Flowey's last pellet before either Frisk or Flowey can do anything. Also, Flowey has no soul, so Frisk taking his soul is not an option. A human cannot consume another human soul, so Frisk taking the other 6 is out of the question. The possiblility of Frisk taking another monsters soul before crossing the barrier is a possibility but highly unlikely, as when a monster dies, we dont see their soul fade away. Or we could have ourselves a plothole! Tell me what you think in the comments about how Frisk escapes the underground in neutral! If he does at all.

[David]

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[Beardo Brando]

My guess is that when Flowey gains the power of 6 human souls, he ends up bring Frisk across the barrier before/during/after the Photoshop Flowey fight.

It isn't that it HAS to be a human soul and a monster is needed, just the power of both.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av sans 99randomgamer is crazy lazy:

My guess is that when Flowey gains the power of 6 human souls, he ends up bring Frisk across the barrier before/during/after the Photoshop Flowey fight.

It isn't that it HAS to be a human soul and a monster is needed, just the power of both.

the thing is, Flowey doesnt have a soul, no monster soul, no human soul until he gathers the 6 which are soon released

[Beardo Brando]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av sans 99randomgamer is crazy lazy:

My guess is that when Flowey gains the power of 6 human souls, he ends up bring Frisk across the barrier before/during/after the Photoshop Flowey fight.

It isn't that it HAS to be a human soul and a monster is needed, just the power of both.

the thing is, Flowey doesnt have a soul, no monster soul, no human soul until he gathers the 6 which are soon released

Doesn't mean he couldn't have transported Frisk during the fight.

I mean, he had a lot of SOUL power at that point.

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6 power
































im done here.

[Leg]

Ursprungligen skrivet av sans 99randomgamer is crazy lazy:

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the thing is, Flowey doesnt have a soul, no monster soul, no human soul until he gathers the 6 which are soon released

Doesn't mean he couldn't have transported Frisk during the fight.

I mean, he had a lot of SOUL power at that point.

like




6 power
































im done here. :sans:

Human souls absorb one another, only a monster and a human soul. A monster and a human soul are needed to cross the barrier, not any amount of human souls.

[cringe master]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av sans 99randomgamer is crazy lazy:

Doesn't mean he couldn't have transported Frisk during the fight.

I mean, he had a lot of SOUL power at that point.

like




6 power
































im done here.

Human souls absorb one another, only a monster and a human soul. A monster and a human soul are needed to cross the barrier, not any amount of human souls.

AT LEAST a monster and a human soul are needed to cross the barrier. Flowey can absorb 2 human souls and cross the barrier. Monster souls are much, MUCH less powerful than human souls. 1 human soul isn't enough, 2 human souls are much more than enough

[Kptn Howdy]

It's not confirmed Frisk even crosses the barrier, since Sans and company gets to call him/her, while you can't call people outside the barrier, meaning the Cell Phone was either left behind or Frisk is still in the underground somewhere.

[Leg]

Ursprungligen skrivet av roboticdude9000:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Flowey:

Human souls absorb one another, only a monster and a human soul. A monster and a human soul are needed to cross the barrier, not any amount of human souls.

AT LEAST a monster and a human soul are needed to cross the barrier. Flowey can absorb 2 human souls and cross the barrier. Monster souls are much, MUCH less powerful than human souls. 1 human soul isn't enough, 2 human souls are much more than enough

No, no, you are getting it all wrong, 2 human souls cannot break the barrier, 5 cant, 1 million cant, there needs to be a monster soul to break the barrier, yes they are much less powerful than human souls, but a monster soul is needed. If only 2 human souls were needed, Flowey would have crossed the barrier and killed everyone himself.

[cringe master]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av roboticdude9000:

AT LEAST a monster and a human soul are needed to cross the barrier. Flowey can absorb 2 human souls and cross the barrier. Monster souls are much, MUCH less powerful than human souls. 1 human soul isn't enough, 2 human souls are much more than enough

No, no, you are getting it all wrong, 2 human souls cannot break the barrier, 5 cant, 1 million cant, there needs to be a monster soul to break the barrier, yes they are much less powerful than human souls, but a monster soul is needed. If only 2 human souls were needed, Flowey would have crossed the barrier and killed everyone himself.

Then why did he destroy ASGOREs SOUL?

[Kptn Howdy]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Flowey:

No, no, you are getting it all wrong, 2 human souls cannot break the barrier, 5 cant, 1 million cant, there needs to be a monster soul to break the barrier, yes they are much less powerful than human souls, but a monster soul is needed. If only 2 human souls were needed, Flowey would have crossed the barrier and killed everyone himself.

Then why did he destroy ASGOREs SOUL?

To get access to the Human Souls, to defeat you, get your soul and become God.


Flowey spent years doing 'playthroughs' with his power of accessing saves and he's done things like Genocide runs and Pacifist runs, but he never got to get to the Human souls, so why couldn't he leave after just murdering everyone?

[Salem]

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Then why did he destroy ASGOREs SOUL?

To get access to the Human Souls, to defeat you, get your soul and become God.


Flowey spent years doing 'playthroughs' with his power of accessing saves and he's done things like Genocide runs and Pacifist runs, but he never got to get to the Human souls, so why couldn't he leave after just murdering everyone?

He never got past Sans though.

[Kptn Howdy]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Salem:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Kptn Howdy:

To get access to the Human Souls, to defeat you, get your soul and become God.


Flowey spent years doing 'playthroughs' with his power of accessing saves and he's done things like Genocide runs and Pacifist runs, but he never got to get to the Human souls, so why couldn't he leave after just murdering everyone?

He never got past Sans though.

That too.

[Naelyon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Salem:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Kptn Howdy:

To get access to the Human Souls, to defeat you, get your soul and become God.


Flowey spent years doing 'playthroughs' with his power of accessing saves and he's done things like Genocide runs and Pacifist runs, but he never got to get to the Human souls, so why couldn't he leave after just murdering everyone?

He never got past Sans though.

How do you figure he never got past Sans? When doing a genocide run, Flowey tells Frisk/Chara that he had already done every possibility... He had played and lost every game, he had read and burnt every book, he had appeased and killed every monster (this would mean he had killed Sans already at least once, probably more than that if he really did every single possibility)

[afantius]

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He never got past Sans though.

How do you figure he never got past Sans? When doing a genocide run, Flowey tells Frisk/Chara that he had already done every possibility... He had played and lost every game, he had read and burnt every book, he had appeased and killed every monster (this would mean he had killed Sans already at least once, probably more than that if he really did every single possibility)

flowey gives dialogue after you reset the game, depending on where you actually reset. I believe in one of these diologues, flowey states how sans gave him his share of game overs, and he decided to avoid him entirely or something

[cringe master]

Ursprungligen skrivet av jonastroll:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Salem:

He never got past Sans though.

How do you figure he never got past Sans? When doing a genocide run, Flowey tells Frisk/Chara that he had already done every possibility... He had played and lost every game, he had read and burnt every book, he had appeased and killed every monster (this would mean he had killed Sans already at least once, probably more than that if he really did every single possibility)

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