Undertale

Undertale

Boag 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 2:12
SPOILERS: Papyrus JUST (or almost) as powerfull as Sans.
THIS IS CRAZY BUT IT MIGHT JUST BE TRUE. STICK WITH ME HERE.
(THIS PART HAS BEEN REMOVED AS IT IS COMPLETE BS AND IM A IDOIT. rest is still fine tho :P). Another thing that makes me think that he is just as powerfull as sans. is that he shares attacks. In the fight with papyrus he uses a move which is one long blue bone followed straight after a normal smaller bone. The same attack is used in the sans battle. He also shares the same gravity ability sans does.

Your most likely asking why doesnt papyrus throw you around with gravity and possibly even use gaster blasters. This is proboly because he wants to capture you not kill you. Obvoisly their is no telling HOW powerfull he could be as we were never shown the extent of his power. But as he is brothers with Sans and uses alot of the same attacks and abilitys it wouldnt be that far fetched to think that Papyrus is just as powerfull as Sans.

But what makes me think this is true the most is one line of text in the sans fight were he says this "our reports showed a massive anomaly in the timespace continuum. timelines jumping left and right, stopping and starting..." Note the word OUR. This makes me suspect that Him and Papyrus noticed something was wrong. Of course gaster could be involved in all this but I want to stay away from him for now cause he is a whole diffrent nutshell. And he also died LONG before frisk came into the underground so he couldnt of been part of the our.

Though this would fit in nicely with the theory that Sans and Papyrus are actually two parts of W.D Gaster. As it would make sence the power would be split 50/50 between them.

What do you think? Utter horse ♥♥♥♥ or not? Please tell me I have no clue if Im going crazy or not :P
最后由 Boag 编辑于; 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 2:24
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filler text 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 2:47 
引用自 Officer Tex
//I actually think Papyrus is not even that tough at all.

Sans is possibly a scientist, he managed to get himself the knowledge about the SAVE ability and the quantum physics books and the workshop also work as a reference.

Sans being a scientist, he would probaly use this to his advantage, searching about the monster's abilities before searching about Human's. This way he learned how to use certain useful spells like Teleportation and possibly gravity manipulation. I think when he got to the SAVE part, he just realized how useless is to search or do anything, because someone can just reset it, and because of this he became lazy and stopped searching.

Papyrus, however, don't have any reference that points out he also obtained the knowledge to use certain spells or anything like that.

Just a theory, though. Maybe i'm overlooking something...
//Tex it's called magic, and from what I know. They don't even use spells. Magic is connect to their souls.
Well, if someone's memories can get trapped in a living flower, then why the hell not?
Mother of Exiles 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 2:48 
引用自 Officer Tex
//Tex it's called magic, and from what I know. They don't even use spells. Magic is connect to their souls.
//I'm brazilian, for me spells and magic are the same thing.
//For just about everyone else in the world, it's difference.
fake nightmare house 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 4:43 
Why wouldn't he go all out in genocide? If he is as powerful and knows as much as Sans, wouldn't he know that monsters become white powder when killed? Asriel uses fire attacks sometimes, so, following your similar attzck logic, wouldn't Toriel and Asgore be as strong?

Yeah, you didn't think this through.
BarpleBapkins 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 5:15 
Papyrus can also prevent your death in game as well, say you have 2 hp and his attack does 4 damage, you just get knocked down to 1 hp and he holds you captive. Hell, he even heals you when he's done fighting. It's like he can control your health value.
RangedSpider 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 5:22 
Papyrus can also walk on water.
Mother of Exiles 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 5:35 
引用自 BLUEATTACKER6669
//Why wouldn't he go all out in genocide? If he is as powerful and knows as much as Sans, wouldn't he know that monsters become white powder when killed? Asriel uses fire attacks sometimes, so, following your similar attzck logic, wouldn't Toriel and Asgore be as strong?

Yeah, you didn't think this through.
//Did you pay attention to the game at all? Pap always believes in you. He has faith in everyone, that they can be good if they just try.
Mr. Thumper23 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 5:55 
The thing is that papyrus is probaly as strong or stronger than sans but probably holds back because hes SUCH A LITTLE CINNAMON BUN :3
jo 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 6:35 
引用自 Mr. Thumper23
The thing is that papyrus is probaly as strong or stronger than sans but probably holds back because hes SUCH A LITTLE CINNAMON BUN :3

So true :3
Absolution 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 7:51 
The way Undyne describes Papyrus, together with the way he trains and generally how motivated he is, leads me to believe he outclasses Sans (although in a more brute force sense, lacking dodge, QUANTUM PHYSICS and Gaster blasters.)

I consider Undyne the strongest monster, but in honesty, it could very well be Papyrus- we'll just never know because there's no way to push him into a corner like you can his brother.

On the subject of Sans, he does not remember what happened in other timelines. He's just very good at poker.
I strongly object to the idea that he's some kind of lazy slacker, however. I don't remember the specific dialogue that allowed me to see through the act, but he's actually working hard the entire time, even if he doesn't look like it. Truly Sun Tzu-tier;
-Presents himself as harmless but is actually the deadliest fight that exists.
-First one to discover you outside of the Ruins (I'm not counting Alphys- Sans is likely the one that pinpointed the ruins as the source of the humans trickling in. There's a camera IMMEDIATELY outside of the ruins exit, by the way.)
-Mans multiple guard posts+unknown other lookout areas AT THE SAME TIME
-Incredible quantum physicist
-Uses humor as a weapon (his jokes are a litmus test to tell when someone is suspicious, as in they look like they've "heard it before")
-Likely the one responsible for the deaths of several, if not all, humans in the underground. You find human gear in out-of-the-way places, far and away from Asgore whom does not seem to wander much.
-Sans is the guy Flowey warns you about. The details are not known, but Sans had been smart enough to forestall Flowey's worst playthroughs several times in spite of Flowey's obvious advantage. (This means both flushing him out, as well as killing him.)

When Sans takes you out to dinner, he appears to lose his cool briefly and indicate that you should already be dead. It is strongly implied that the only reason that you're not, is because of the promise he made to Toriel.


I'm not claiming that Sans isn't horrifically depressed, though. Lazy? That's a front.
burntfrenchfries 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 9:23 
//Papyrus is most likely more powerful than sans, as he has some defense and health, along with he most likely holds back during your fight with him.
Naaah
Itzcoatl 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 11:36 
I belive sans weakness is due to his lack of determination. As for Papyrus' power, he does sort of wear out after only a few regular attacks as where sans could probably go on forever if he hadn't fallen asleep.
RangedSpider 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 11:40 
引用自 Spektrei
I belive sans weakness is due to his lack of determination. As for Papyrus' power, he does sort of wear out after only a few regular attacks as where sans could probably go on forever if he hadn't fallen asleep.

They both become exhausted after a certain amount of turns. Must be a skeleton weakness.
Itzcoatl 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 11:42 
They could use some meat on those bones.
RangedSpider 2016 年 3 月 22 日 下午 11:44 
引用自 Spektrei
They could use some meat on those bones.

They should eat lots of ribs.
Boag 2016 年 3 月 23 日 上午 12:51 
引用自 BLUEATTACKER6669
Why wouldn't he go all out in genocide? If he is as powerful and knows as much as Sans, wouldn't he know that monsters become white powder when killed? Asriel uses fire attacks sometimes, so, following your similar attzck logic, wouldn't Toriel and Asgore be as strong?

Yeah, you didn't think this through.

He doesnt go all out genocide because he directly says he believes in you to you when you go genocide so it wouldnt make much sence for him to try and kill you. secondly asriel used the fire attacks because he was related to asgore and toriel. But yeah it is just as likely that its because their related but i wouldnt be suprised if it werent.

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