What does Megalovania REALLY mean? (Spoilers, I guess?)

[Eros]

As most people know at this point, Megalovania is sans' theme at the end of the geno run.
Yet, I keep hearing people say "It's your theme," because of how they automatically assume Megalovania = Megalomania (Obsession with power and stuff). I can see how it can be your theme if it was spelled Megalomania, but then what's the point of using the word Megalovania? I mean there has to be a reason in the word's definition that explains as to why it's given to sans.

[rorgfist]

From where did you get that "once upon a time" is charas theme?

Because i firmly think its just the opening theme and thats pretty much it.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Escrito originalmente por rorgfist:

From where did you get that "once upon a time" is charas theme?

Because i firmly think its just the opening theme and thats pretty much it.

Because it plays in the intro where it shows Chara fall into the Underground.

Also the titular song "Undertale" = "Once Upon A Time" + "His Theme"

Chara's Theme + Asriel's Theme

"Undertale" plays in New Home when the monsters talk about Chara and Asriel merging into one being.

[rorgfist]

It plays in the intro because its the intro music, duh.

Nice way of thinking about that, but nothing more than a theory, his theme is asriel theme, but there is nothing pointing to once upon a time being charas theme, even in the soundtrack we can see asriel in "his theme" but not chara in "once upon a time"

Thats a theory, nothing more, nothing less.

Its a good theory, i give you that, and i wouldnt be surprised if it was true, just like i wouldnt be surprised if the megalovania theory was.

Not to mention megalovania resonates much more with the violent demon that loves the feeling of killing people than the intro.

The intro could be the theme of chara when it was alive, and megalovania after they died and went evil, just like asriel and flowey have different themes.

That would make both theories truth at the same time.

It truly makes me think.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Escrito originalmente por rorgfist:

It plays in the intro because its the intro music, duh.

Nice way of thinking about that, but nothing more than a theory, his theme is asriel theme, but there is nothing pointing to once upon a time being charas theme, even in the soundtrack we can see asriel in "his theme" but not chara in "once upon a time"

Thats a theory, nothing more, nothing less.

Its a good theory, i give you that, and i wouldnt be surprised if it was true, just like i wouldnt be surprised if the megalovania theory was.

Not to mention megalovania resonates much more with the violent demon that loves the feeling of killing people than the intro.

The intro could be the theme of chara when it was alive, and megalovania after they died and went evil, just like asriel and flowey have different themes.

That would make both theories truth at the same time.

It truly makes me think.

But Megalovania can't be a theme specific to Undertale because the song has been used in previous works that Toby has done. It started as a final boss theme for his Earthbound fan hack, and was retweaked for use in Homestuck. The name comes from the fact in his original Earthbound hack he wanted to use "Megalomania", the boss theme from the game "Live A Live", but when he couldn't, he instead made his own song giving it a similar name.

[rorgfist]

Escrito originalmente por (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Escrito originalmente por rorgfist:

It plays in the intro because its the intro music, duh.

Nice way of thinking about that, but nothing more than a theory, his theme is asriel theme, but there is nothing pointing to once upon a time being charas theme, even in the soundtrack we can see asriel in "his theme" but not chara in "once upon a time"

Thats a theory, nothing more, nothing less.

Its a good theory, i give you that, and i wouldnt be surprised if it was true, just like i wouldnt be surprised if the megalovania theory was.

Not to mention megalovania resonates much more with the violent demon that loves the feeling of killing people than the intro.

The intro could be the theme of chara when it was alive, and megalovania after they died and went evil, just like asriel and flowey have different themes.

That would make both theories truth at the same time.

It truly makes me think.

But Megalovania can't be a theme specific to Undertale because the song has been used in previous works that Toby has done. It started as a final boss theme for his Earthbound fan hack, and was retweaked for use in Homestuck. The name comes from the fact in his original Earthbound hack he wanted to use "Megalomania", the boss theme from the game "Live A Live", but when he couldn't, he instead made his own song giving it a similar name.

Oh, understood then.

Such a pity, i liked that theory.

Oh well. Thanks anyway, got it.

[Sp4rt4n1295]

Escrito originalmente por rorgfist:

Escrito originalmente por (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

But Megalovania can't be a theme specific to Undertale because the song has been used in previous works that Toby has done. It started as a final boss theme for his Earthbound fan hack, and was retweaked for use in Homestuck. The name comes from the fact in his original Earthbound hack he wanted to use "Megalomania", the boss theme from the game "Live A Live", but when he couldn't, he instead made his own song giving it a similar name.

Oh, understood then.

Such a pity, i liked that theory.

Oh well. Thanks anyway, got it.

The theme is still a play on the word “Megalomania”, which Megalovania as a theme was inspired by. A megalomaniac is defined as a person who is obsessed with power, so it’s pretty fitting to play as the final battle theme for the Genocide run, where they player character(s) (Frisk and Chara) become so obsessed with power that they kill everyone in the Underground simply because they see them as a means to become stronger, much like how RPGs traditionally have the players see common mooks as just a means of grinding up levels to get stronger.

I think it’s less Chara’s or Sans’s theme, and more just the theme for the climax of the Genocide run in general, much like how Hopes and Dreams/Save the World is Asriel’s theme, but is technically also the theme for the climactic final battle for the fate of the world between Frisk and Asriel. Same with Finale being the theme for the climactic battle of the Neutral ending between Frisk and Flowey. It fits the scenario, so Toby decided to put it there. It was put there for some reason, and I doubt it was simply to be a meaningless callback to his previous uses of the theme in his Halloween Hack and Homestuck.

[CTheRex]

Escrito originalmente por Death Defy Vendetta:

Before I start to talk, I have no idea if anybody still caring about this. But I do. That's why I'm writing this.

Let's make a quick answer before things get much bigger than now. Megalovania doesn't belongs to sans at this point (there is so many clues in boss battle to prove this idea but I bet you heard all of them already. You trigger the battle and etc).
The meaning of word (lots of people already said that but believe me. They are true) basically explains why the name of this music is megalovania and why it is appearing in only at the end of geno run. I mean,seriously. Omega flowey had more desire for power but chara just wants to destroy. That's why they like power. They NEED power. Flowey knew "save" and "reset" but one of their point is breaking the barrier when they take the souls. So flowey was a little more "innocent" than Chara. And as Frisk,(in geno run) you are telling that you want power. You are merciless at this point.
All you care is "torturing" (we will need this word) or killing people. You want L.O.V.E . You want to use L.O.V.E. And Chara guides you to gain more power as a "partner". And at the way to Judgement Hall, for each person you've killed, Chara gains more power with you. At one point, she begins to guide you to suicide. She tries to drive you crazy, make you addicted to power. She "dominates" you. You and Chara become one mind at Sans' boss battle. You want to "torture" him because he isn't letting you to gain more power. "In your way",for that matter. You don't want to kill him because death isn't scary enough for Sans. He knows that you will reset. He knows that Papyrus will come back.


You are "torturing" Sans in "domination" of Chara.
That's why the song called "Megalovania".

I hope this was helpful and good enough to make you glad for reading this. Have a nice day. ^^

NECRO!!!

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Escrito originalmente por gloopy:

its the sense of sins crawling on your back yes I looked it up its in the urban dictionary

Megalovania
The feeling of your sins crawling down your back
After hearing about the bad time they where about to have, they started to experience a sharp sense of Megalovania.

the exact words from the urban dictionary

You do know that anyone can make urban dictionary entries, right?

[joshuabaker121]

Escrito originalmente por gloopy:

its the sense of sins crawling on your back yes I looked it up its in the urban dictionary

Megalovania
The feeling of your sins crawling down your back
After hearing about the bad time they where about to have, they started to experience a sharp sense of Megalovania.

the exact words from the urban dictionary

That entry was added in 2016 - the year after Undertale was released - as a specific reference to the song's use in the game (it's a near-verbatim line from the Sans fight, after all).

So that "definition" was created because of the song's name; not the other way around.

[jambi]

"Megalomania" means something along the lines of being obsessed with power, or thinking you're way more important than the rest.

Which, as someone already pointed, that is not Sans.

It's you.

When you're doing genocide run, you are drunk on power and think nothing else matters but yourself, and the Sans fight is the culmination of that expression of Megalomania.

Doing a genocide run also means your LOVE also has got to be very high, like mega high, hence the wordplay, resulting in Megalovania.

well that sounds reasonable enough for me at least.