Relationship between Frisk and Chara.

[Supreme™ [Kef]]

Are Frisk and Chara the same person? There seem to be a number of clues that have led me to this conclusion.

When we see Chara in the genocide ending, s/he is an overworld sprite, despite the player not having finished a battle, and no other character interacts with her/him. Could it be possible that this is some kind of figment of the imagination, meaning that the scene with Chara is not in the physical world. Does this mean that Chara is Frisk's alter ego, or vice versa? (The same could be said about in-game Asriel, simply a memory? However, what would explain the barrier breaking?)

After a genocide run, Frisk's reflection in the water will appear as Chara and during the scene in Waterfall where we have a flashback of Asriel. This seems to come as a result of Frisk falling down from the platform and if so, these must be his/her memories. Also, the fact that Frisk and Chara have 'similar fashion sense', and look almost completely identical (in the drawings depicting them in the intro and pacifist ending, they are completely indistinguishable ) can be no coincidence. In fact, his/her 'best friend' is unable to tell the two apart by appearance alone.

Was Chara reincarnated, and then chose a new identity, Frisk, when the player revealed to them how good life could be if they learnt how to be merciful? After all, we only learn that Frisk is Frisk if we spare every monster in the game. Please feel free to discuss below.

[Supreme™ [Kef]]

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How can they both be the same person if Chara's been gone long ago, then other six humans fell, and Frisk is the 8th?

Human souls persist after death, so Chara's soul must have gone somewhere after Asriel's death.

[Kuratheris]

I wouldn't say they have the same soul. They just both have a soul with a huge amount of determination. I doubt every human in the world has a different kind of soul.

I think I have a nice theory for them being the same person.

Frisk became a vessel for Chara's soul when he/she fell into the flower bed where Chara's body was buried. How? Chara's body still had part of their soul inside it, left over through the power of determination, also a reason why the Chara/Asriel fusion didn't ever reset until more determination was injected into Flowey by Alphys: because some of the determination/soul was left in Chara's body.
It's proven that souls can act on their own and even leave a body if the body is weak enough, so the Chara half of Flowey eventually reset on it's own, leaving Flowey without enough determination to reset anymore, and becoming Frisk who jumped into the Underground and lost their memory doing so. Also ending up resetting to the last time the world reset - which was when Flowey did it, resetting to the present time instead of the past. Frisk looks slightly different because part of a different human's determination was used to reset - also possibly a reason for losing memory and/or being a good person. But Frisk's soul was essentially the same as evil Chara's, so evil Chara was able to reside inside Frisk and take over if Frisk's soul got strong enough.

[Supreme™ [Kef]]

Escrito originalmente por Kuratheris:

Frisk became a vessel for Chara's soul when he/she fell into the flower bed where Chara's body was buried.

Wasn't Chara buried in the throne room?

[Kuratheris]

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Escrito originalmente por Kuratheris:

Frisk became a vessel for Chara's soul when he/she fell into the flower bed where Chara's body was buried.

Wasn't Chara buried in the throne room?

Asriel was buried in the throne room. And I feel like I heard someone say Toriel took Chara's body to the ruins, but I'm not sure. Where they were buried doesn't really need to matter anyway.

[Supreme™ [Kef]]

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Wasn't Chara buried in the throne room?

Asriel was buried in the throne room. And I feel like I heard someone say Toriel took Chara's body to the ruins, but I'm not sure. Where they were buried doesn't really need to matter anyway.

Of course it does! Otherwise if Frisk landed on just a normal flowerbed, then surely doesn't that discredit the theory?

[thespooniest]

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Escrito originalmente por Kuratheris:

Frisk became a vessel for Chara's soul when he/she fell into the flower bed where Chara's body was buried.

Wasn't Chara buried in the throne room?

There's a coffin for Chara in the crypt near the Throne Room, and it appears to have once been used. We can't be totally certain that Chara was ever laid to rest there, but there don't seem to be any other possibilities:

• The other six humans all have their own coffins.
  
• Frisk is still alive, and is generally known not to be Chara, even if no one knows their real name (only Flowey/Asriel ever actually makes that mistake). Asgore's plans would presumably have ended with Frisk needing a coffin, but it is unlikely that Asgore would have ordered the wrong name to be written on it. He sucks at naming things, but not THAT much.
  
• We never hear about any other humans falling

.But we also know that Toriel definitely took Chara's body to the Ruins and buried it there. My guess is that Chara's body was initially entombed in the castle, but Toriel took it when she left Asgore and buried it in the Ruins.

Are we sure that Chara's body is buried at the spot where Frisk landed, though? I got the impression it was buried under the ominous black tree near Toriel's house.

[Supreme™ [Kef]]

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Escrito originalmente por uroparopa:

Wasn't Chara buried in the throne room?

There's a coffin for Chara in the crypt near the Throne Room, and it appears to have once been used. We can't be totally certain that Chara was ever laid to rest there, but there don't seem to be any other possibilities:

• The other six humans all have their own coffins.
  
• Frisk is still alive, and is generally known not to be Chara, even if no one knows their real name (only Flowey/Asriel ever actually makes that mistake). Asgore's plans would presumably have ended with Frisk needing a coffin, but it is unlikely that Asgore would have ordered the wrong name to be written on it. He sucks at naming things, but not THAT much.
  
• We never hear about any other humans falling

.But we also know that Toriel definitely took Chara's body to the Ruins and buried it there. My guess is that Chara's body was initially entombed in the castle, but Toriel took it when she left Asgore and buried it in the Ruins.

Are we sure that Chara's body is buried at the spot where Frisk landed, though? I got the impression it was buried under the ominous black tree near Toriel's house.

Purely out of curiosity, where is this mentioned?

[Zeox]

Frisk represents you as a person (You didn't choose your own name, but you can choose the actions that will define you as a person)
Chara represents the character that you create (you choose their name, you make them strong, get exp, LV up, and if the game consumes you, you will end thinking that you are your own fictional character and you will hurt everyone that you love)

[Kuratheris]

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Asriel was buried in the throne room. And I feel like I heard someone say Toriel took Chara's body to the ruins, but I'm not sure. Where they were buried doesn't really need to matter anyway.

Of course it does! Otherwise if Frisk landed on just a normal flowerbed, then surely doesn't that discredit the theory?

It's a soul, it doesn't have to be in the body, they can move around. Part of the reason they're in the capsules is probably so they don't just float off.

[JRokujuushi]

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Purely out of curiosity, where is this mentioned?

Flowey in Genocide.

How did you get back to the RUINS from here...?
... wait, I know.
She must have taken you when she left.
And decided to give you a proper burial, rather than...
Hanging out in the basement forever.
... but, why then...?
What made you wake up?
Did you hear me calling you...?

[CE_2438]

I believe Frisk and Chara's relationship is something similar to Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde's. So basically, they're either way the same person, or their soul somehow combined.