Undertale

Undertale

HappyHam Jul 25, 2016 @ 10:08am
Why does Asgore speak to you when you die?
Spoilers ahoy
If you haven't finished Undertale Neutral then I'd suggest you get your determination on and finish it before reading.


So... I don't know how much theorizing has been done on this, but let's just think. Whenever the protagonist Frisk is killed they hear the voice of King Asgore telling them to not give up and stay determined. It seems like he's talking to the protagonist, but he addresses Chara. This could supposedly be heard by Frisk before the timeline is reset to allow him to progress anew.

As well as that, when the player stays in Toriel's house instead of progressing the voice of Asgore can be heard while in bed encouraging them to progress and face the trials ahead to fulfill their important role.

The important thing is why? Why do we here Asgore and why does he address Chara instead of Frisk?

Here's a detail to look back to: when the player is falling off the bridge into the garbage dump at waterfall, while they're unconscious they here the voice of Asriel asking their name and getting the responce of Chara's name. The music 'Memory' plays and the supposed Asriel tries to introduce himself when the scene ends and (I'm ending the spoiler wall now. XD) Frisk wakes up.
What this could mean is that Frisk received one of Chara's memories while unconscious; the key memory of being found by Asriel before being walked back to the castle.
Is this what Asgore's voice could be?
I couldn't imagine Asgore telling his adopted son/daughter "All the monsters depend on you, Chara," when Chara doesn't have a positive roll at all and probably wouldn't have had one anyway.

So... any theories people?
Go ahead and share your ideas about what this could mean. Why Asgore is heard seemingly addressing Frisk but calling Chara's name.
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Covfefe Jul 25, 2016 @ 10:17am 
1) Asgore's addressing Chara.
2) Frisk is kinda obsessed by Chara. Well, I think that Chara is the players's dark side (yeah, like in SW :P).
3) Hmmm... Asgore might had waited Chara to fulfil some plan, when they were alive.
Last edited by Covfefe; Jul 25, 2016 @ 10:20am
Thundercracker Jul 25, 2016 @ 10:18am 
i personally think that frisk is dead. their soul is in chara's mummified corpse, which was buried under the plot of yellow flowers you wake up on.
Jake the Human Jul 25, 2016 @ 6:58pm 
You would know why Asgore talks to Chara, because Asgore was there when Chara was on his deathbed at New Home. The home videos that Alphys has in the True Lab repeat Asgore's text word for word. You can't give up, stay determined, etc.

These memories are what you hear when you get a Game Over and are about to die.

This is very easy to explain.
HappyHam Jul 25, 2016 @ 7:21pm 
Originally posted by Jake the Human:
These memories are what you hear when you get a Game Over and are about to die.

This is very easy to explain.

I hadn't thought of it that way. That makes a lot of sense! :D
Thundercracker Jul 26, 2016 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Jake the Human:
You would know why Asgore talks to Chara, because Asgore was there when Chara was on his deathbed at New Home. The home videos that Alphys has in the True Lab repeat Asgore's text word for word. You can't give up, stay determined, etc.

These memories are what you hear when you get a Game Over and are about to die.

This is very easy to explain.
you dont play asgore, nor do you play chara. why would frisk "hear" it?
HappyHam Jul 26, 2016 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by Your Best Friend:
you dont play asgore, nor do you play chara. why would frisk "hear" it?
Probably because Chara has 'connected' with Frisk (or someting) causing such a thing to happen.
IDK. That's a bit vague.
Thundercracker Jul 26, 2016 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by TheGamerHam757:
Originally posted by Your Best Friend:
you dont play asgore, nor do you play chara. why would frisk "hear" it?
Probably because Chara has 'connected' with Frisk (or someting) causing such a thing to happen.
IDK. That's a bit vague.
what can that connection be?

could it be.....



Originally posted by Your Best Friend:
i personally think that frisk is dead. their soul is in chara's mummified corpse, which was buried under the plot of yellow flowers you wake up on.
Shoopshadoo Jul 27, 2016 @ 12:18am 
I believe that he doesn't adress Frisk, the character you play, and instead adresses Chara because Chara represents you, the player (hence the name-pun, your "CHARActer"). Asgore is talking to the person playing the game from the outside (the player).
This is probably why you are never told that Chara is evil until you go into the genocide run, where it turns out that you, the player, are in fact evil. If you, the player, will murder just out of curiosity, than Chara, who represents you, must also act like this.

I hope this helped! :)
HappyHam Jul 27, 2016 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by Shadoopee:
I believe that he doesn't adress Frisk, the character you play, and instead adresses Chara because Chara represents you, the player (hence the name-pun, your "CHARActer"). Asgore is talking to the person playing the game from the outside (the player).
This is probably why you are never told that Chara is evil until you go into the genocide run, where it turns out that you, the player, are in fact evil. If you, the player, will murder just out of curiosity, than Chara, who represents you, must also act like this.

I hope this helped! :)
Actually, that makes sense.
I guess that we ARE Chara. Thanks! :D
Thundercracker Jul 27, 2016 @ 4:30pm 
see, the problem with that is i dont look a thing like chara. chara has an ingame sprite, i do not. chara is a seperate entity from me.

also shadoopee made an error. go back to the room where the game starts in the ruins, in the true pacifist epiloge. asriel himself admits that chara both "was not the best person" and "hated humanity". so no, genocide isnt the only place you are informed that chara was/is evil. [/quote]
Strider VM Jul 27, 2016 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by Shadoopee:
I believe that he doesn't adress Frisk, the character you play, and instead adresses Chara because Chara represents you, the player (hence the name-pun, your "CHARActer"). Asgore is talking to the person playing the game from the outside (the player).
This is probably why you are never told that Chara is evil until you go into the genocide run, where it turns out that you, the player, are in fact evil. If you, the player, will murder just out of curiosity, than Chara, who represents you, must also act like this.

I hope this helped! :)

The only possible hole in that logic is that.... Why does no one recognize Chara except Flowey? Even Asgore an Toriel did not recognize Chara.
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Date Posted: Jul 25, 2016 @ 10:08am
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