Frisk is from the FUTURE!?

[BeePup]

ok so this has been on my mind for awhile and I felt like asking you guys for your opinion. you may have heard the theory before, but I believe Frisk, the 8th Fallen Human may be hundreds of years into the future. And it all begins when we first see the opening story to Undertale.
It begins with the story of the humans and monsters living in harmony before a war broke out between them. Monsters lost this battle and were sealed away in Mount Ebott. Now it heas been many years later and it shows us the year 201X and we see a human walk up to Mount Ebott and fall down the hole. What eats away at this though is that we assume that this is the character we play as, Frisk.
Problem is, this child has only a single stripped sweater which leads this to be Chara or whatever you decided to name the fallen child. Proof of this is when we see during the flashback that Asriel has during the Pacifist Run. that Same fallen child with the sweater being found by Asriel and taken in to be with the Dreemurr family before their death.
Now before Frisk, there were 6 other humans to fall down to the Underground but none survived.
When Frisk comes in though. Toriel said "I just realized it has been awhile since I have cleaned up. I was not expecting to have company so soon." In other words, Toriel has not had a human come down in awhile and wasn't expecting one more to come but she had still often checked the flowerbed for anyone there. That means quite some time has passed between since the Justice Soul fell and when Frisk showed up.
Speaking of Justice, the empty gun they hold is a Revolver and from the description given. It was said to be antique. Meaning at least 100 years or more has passed since then.
Moving on to the Pacifist animation ending we see everyone watching the Sun in the distance, but between the sun we see a Mountain on the left, and a very tall building as tall as the mountain on the right, Meaning humans must've advanced somewhat. Though during the ending there aren't any other humans to be seen. None at the beach, no one at the school. not even on the highway. It is empty.
Makes you wonder where all the humans are at? Perhaps so much time has passed that Humans are on the near brink of extinction and are unable to reproduce fast enough. This could be a result of something similar to the Black Death or over pollution. And what would be left of them would probably be in that large building acting as a hospital for the sick/dying/recovering. Everyone else would be gone. This may be also the reason why Frisk went to Mount Ebott. As Asriel may have asked "It may have not been for a happy reason" Frisk was most likely trying to die because of everyone else dying around them. But when Frisk found out about Monsters, they wanted to return home and tell everyone that there may still be a chance at living. Frisk could be happy again. Have a new family, save everyone.
Now you guys may say that this is flawed but here is another reason. Think about Papyrus. He has never seen a human before and is shocked to see Frisk. Undyne however may or may not have encountered a human before because it is uncertain. Sans has clearly been down there since day 1 of the barrier and he has given up for quite awhile.
Next for Future Proof would be Mettaton. Alphys first made Mettaton's body out of the trash she gathered from the dump but once she became the Royal Scientist she worked on a better model for his body. She would have to find advanced technology and it seems like Asgore would be the one to have it and leaves it with the carpentry monsters to build things like the magic stoves and other things so nothing but junk would be found at the dump. For things to be taken to the dump, it would have to be out of date or useless to the user. Which leads to the saying "One Man's trash is another Man's treasure." Many things can be seen there: Astronaut Food, TV's with antennas, dressers, stuffed animals, coolers, etc. Alphys seems to have knowledge on anime and has even managed to create Mettaton's body, the media extraordinaire. Robots are very advanced things to make. to Make one with a human like body, one of the japanese AI's would've had to have fallen down for Alphys to have a base on what they look like to get the anatomy correct.
Ok now I'm done. Please give me your opinion on what you all think.

[Covfefe]

Very interesting, but I'd rather not believe it.

[Covfefe]

Frisk is really from future, but this future is not so far. We can speak of it since Chara had fallen in 201X (this decade) and we also know that Frisk falls later.

[ditt_25]

OK. I'm bored. paragraph by paragraph time

Para 1-3: OK, state the base theory and otherwise absolutely nothing seems out of the ordinary or contradicted in game yet. VHS tapes and AD fight confirm most of Para 2-3.

Para 4: Either another child fell somewhat recently (in relation to Boss Monster time, not to Underground random citizen time), or your conclusion.

Para 5: Not sure if antique is being used THAT literally. and even if it was, it could just be 100+ years old by the time Justice aquired the gun.

Para 6: Could be. Or it may be either laziness like the bed in alphy's lab. Or wanting to avoid having the a potential human-monster relations fiasco potential dampen the ending. I know To the Moon intentionally AVOIDED certain moral/eithical issues within the main game and saved them for the Holiday themed free DLCs in order to keep the narrative focus of the main game on the main storylines. So this point is inconclusive in either direction until Toby informs us otherwise.

Para 7: If your theory on para 6 is correct, then this would make sense. Plus the whole default armor = bandage thing.

Para 8: Not sure where it confirms 100% Sans has been around since day one (Snowdin shop says something about how the brothers just appeared and asserted themselves one day). In theory, Frisk COULD have been Sans' first human too (after all, who knows how much he has implied from your face and Toriel's door talks.

Papyrus has either never seen a human or is REALLY good at the naive fool act. I prefer to believe his naive act is real though, so I'll give that to you. Undyne could go either way (and which way doesn't really matter for this theory). After all if she HASN'T seen a human, she HAS trained with Asgore enough to have heard all about them.

In addition, VERY FEW (if any?) civilians seem to even be aware what humans look like and several mistake Frisk for a monster. Although Asgore not even recognizing Frisk as a human in Geno seems a bit weird if you use that angle.

Para 9: Not really sure how I feel on this one yet. Never really thought about how they got stoves and such made. although part of alphys' MTT body research could have actually just been anime combiend with her own experimentation instead of an actual AI dropping down.

OTHER DETAILS, potentially relevant?: Toriel's laugh during the MTT hotel scene is stated to be like someone who hasn't laughed for a hudnred years. Although that COULD just be a figure of speech. And Catty and Bratty say monsters have been imprisoned for millenia. As in 1000[s] of years. But again, potential figure of speech and I wouldn't put it past thsoe two to exaggerate.

Only childless Boss Monsters (Asgor and Toriel) are explicitly stated to be immortal, though Gerson is OLD and has been around since before the barrier. Although, perhaps turtle like monsters just have naturally longer lifespans compared to most other monsters, so that's not immediate disproof either.

Final result: Pluasible. Couple assumptions, but noen which require super glaring holes and no super obvious without refering to text dump contradictions from ingame.

Better supported then S = N (largely easter egg/they like EB and has a few significant "facts" that are directly in conflict with ingame text).
But not nearly as well supported Chara = Neutral/Pacifist Narrator theory.

[Weeblebeeb]

tl:dr

[Thundercracker]

first off, there is no indication that undertale takes place on earth.

second, there's nothing indicating what calender is being used. it is not marked as the year "201x AD". it could be 201x of the reign of asgore, 201x after the horus heresy.

ditt_25 has the ticket for the antique gun.... it might have already been antique when it entered the underground.

sans has not been around since day one. skellebros have only somewhat recently shown up. of note, sans "gave up trying to go back" as opposed to the surface (next line is "going to the surface doesent appeal either")

dont forget, monsters use magic. monsters are MADE of magic. alphys probably use magic in the creation of mettaton's body, a very easy way out of your point.

i do agree that it's been a "long time" since any human fell into the underground, possibly 21XX or beyond.

here's a little thing i like to put forward. frisk is dead. that's chara's body walking around. chara was removed from their coffin, and buried under that flower patch you start on. fris has at least one flashback of one of chara's memories. the game over screen gives you asgore's words as chara lay dying. i put forward that frisk is hellow and squinty because they are in chara's mumified corpse.

oh, and ditt_25, that's a callback to sans earlier in the geno run. the lines about "keep pretending to be human". also, think about it. other humans might call the player on genocide a monster. what would monsters call such a human?

[BeePup]

I know the theory is long and I do go off topic a little. My grammar isn't even all that good. To be honest theories can have holes in them, some not as noticeable as others. But that is the point. To create something that will catch the eyes of the viewer to be more interested and think about it.
I really did enjoy your little idea Your Best Friend. And I kinda believe that theory. But what I have trouble believing is that Chara is in full control of a dead Frisk. And there are quite a bit of speculations that Chara is following Frisk as spirit yet is capable of sharing consciousness with Frisk, thus the memory being shared and some of the text box information. I've even watched a theory on how Chara isn't a bad person.
I know it's hard to think about but sometimes I like to put my mind in a child's perspective.

[Thundercracker]

chara isnt in control, frisk's soul is animating chara's mumified corpse. i dont put much meaning to the few times your character does an action without your input in genocide. it's an extremely common thing in the kinds of RPG undertale is generally taking a dig at.

this is why in genocide (even if it's your first run) flowey calls you chara and mentions your "stolen soul". and also why chara themself claims that your soul and determination were your own the whole time.

[Petil]

it starts interesting but is way too dark