Two weird things I noticed.

[D YellowMadness]

1: The last 2 terminal entries in the true lab (the ones that have a red smiley face on them & only turn on right before you leave) don't seem to have been typed by Alphys. They say the flowers were planted right before the queen left but Alphys makes it pretty clear, later on, that she didn't even know about the queen. I think Gaster typed those entries just like some of the others. It raises a question. Was Flowey in the lab before Alphys started working there & she never knew how he got there?

2: The boat person told me to beware the man who came from another world. In the true lab, if you check a certain spot in the foggy room, the narration says you feel something shaped like a man but the only notable thing near that spot is an empty twitching fridge. Man shaped things are rare in the underground & words like "man" are uncommon down there. Is the man Gaster or someone else entirely?

[Dummpkopf (ako)]

About [1]: Why do you think that Alphys didn't know about the queen? I think everybody in the underground knows the story, and knows that there was a queen. They just never saw her. So, I think those two entries were written by Alphys too, not by Gaster, and the smiley face is just "because they tell of how Alphys created Flowey, and Flowey disguises his dark intentions with an innocent smile" as the wikia says.

About [2]: That could have been Gaster or an amalgamate... But yeah, could have been.

[D YellowMadness]

Aplhys says "There are two of them?" when meeting Toriel &, if I remember right, later asks why you didn't tell her about her. That doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't at least know that the queen existed but I think it would be odd for her to know the flowers were planted right before the queen left if she doesn't even know who the queen is.

[Crystalitar]

Hmm neat observation, hadn't heard about this yet, or i live under a rock, or this game is so amazing we still discover things a year later.

1. Flowey was probably not in the lab before, flowey as far as we know can reset from his start, if he was there when other humans had falled (from queens leave till current) he would have gotten a soul way sooner. but.. i think im incorrect, could you quote again what those entries in red said?

2... i really dont know what to do woth this ... in the way i dont know how to react at this.. hm...what if gaster was never a monster but acted like one?

[D YellowMadness]

Originally posted by Crystalitar - NYEH:

1. Flowey was probably not in the lab before, flowey as far as we know can reset from his start, if he was there when other humans had falled (from queens leave till current) he would have gotten a soul way sooner. but.. i think im incorrect, could you quote again what those entries in red said?

Oh yeah. You have a point.