Is Asreal really Asgore's child?

[KaleWesker]

I stumbled upon something really interesting today after completing the "True Pacifist" run. If you return to the shop in Waterfall with the old guy and talk to him about Asgore and whether or not he's a goat, he mentions that Asgore doesn't age and never would because (and I quote): "He never had a child".

So who was Asreal's father? And is Toriel really Asreal's mother? What connection does Asreal actually have to the king of the underground if Flowey's claim about being "the prince of the underground" still holds true?

This could be some excellent fuel for a sequel!

[Goblin]

There is 3 goats in the underground we see 2 are adults

They have a kid (Pun intended)
If Asgore were to have a child with someone else, the kid would look different.
King = Asgore
Queen= Toriel
Prince = Asriel

Are all titles they have.

[Goblin]

DudewingTodd の投稿を引用：

Gold Hearted Dreamer の投稿を引用：

There is 2 goats in the underground we see

They have a kid (Pun intended)
If Asgore were to have a child with someone else, the kid would look different.

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Updated.

[Dani]

SpectrumUK の投稿を引用：

The actual quote is "But ASGORE doesn't have a child."

Because Asriel is dead at the time.

[Spectrum]

Kat-Kun The Exotic Butter Basket の投稿を引用：

SpectrumUK の投稿を引用：

The actual quote is "But ASGORE doesn't have a child."

Because Asriel is dead at the time.

Exactly. Gerson never says that Asgore "never had" a child, just that he "doesn't have" one.
This entire topic is based on Volteer86's mistaken memory.

[knittinpal]

Well I think Asriel is Toriel and Asgore's son. But, I think that I'm the only one who notices that the As in Asgore is in Asriel and the riel is part of Toriel's name.

[Jamchow]

Naw, Asriel just appeared out of nowhere. He has no parents. Asgore and Toriel don't look like him, and the game doesn't support this "theory" of Asriel being Asgore and Toriel's parents. Anyone who thinks else must be idiots.

[Jern]

omg asriel is assgore"s child reason he doesnt age is because his child died idk why that is

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

The Dialogue is this. . .

ASGORE.
He’s a real interesting type of monster.
The strongest type of all.
We call ‘em Boss Monsters
When they have an offspring, the SOUL power of the parents flows into the child...
Causing the child to grow as the parents age.
But ASGORE doesn’t have a child.
So he’s been stuck at the same age...
And probably will be forever.

He means Asgore's son is dead, not that he never had a child at all, because he also says this. . .

Oh yeah!
Of course.
Toriel was queen, and Asgore was the king.
It was tragic when she left.
Since everyone knew she was really the brains behind the throne...
But it was also just a teensy, teensy bit relieving, you know?
Those two were really insufferable together...
Nuzzling noses, bein' all cute n' cuddly in public...
Embarrassing their children... (referring to Asriel and Chara)
They were so sweet it made me SICK.
Thank god those days are over!

[Supreme™ [Kef]]

(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr の投稿を引用：

The Dialogue is this. . .

ASGORE.
He’s a real interesting type of monster.
The strongest type of all.
We call ‘em Boss Monsters
When they have an offspring, the SOUL power of the parents flows into the child...
Causing the child to grow as the parents age.
But ASGORE doesn’t have a child.
So he’s been stuck at the same age...
And probably will be forever.

He means Asgore's son is dead, not that he never had a child at all, because he also says this. . .

Oh yeah!
Of course.
Toriel was queen, and Asgore was the king.
It was tragic when she left.
Since everyone knew she was really the brains behind the throne...
But it was also just a teensy, teensy bit relieving, you know?
Those two were really insufferable together...
Nuzzling noses, bein' all cute n' cuddly in public...
Embarrassing their children... (referring to Asriel and Chara)
They were so sweet it made me SICK.
Thank god those days are over!

Oh! That's just disproven an unrelated theory of mine!

[KaleWesker]

(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr の投稿を引用：

The Dialogue is this. . .

ASGORE.
He’s a real interesting type of monster.
The strongest type of all.
We call ‘em Boss Monsters
When they have an offspring, the SOUL power of the parents flows into the child...
Causing the child to grow as the parents age.
But ASGORE doesn’t have a child.
So he’s been stuck at the same age...
And probably will be forever.

He means Asgore's son is dead, not that he never had a child at all, because he also says this. . .

Oh yeah!
Of course.
Toriel was queen, and Asgore was the king.
It was tragic when she left.
Since everyone knew she was really the brains behind the throne...
But it was also just a teensy, teensy bit relieving, you know?
Those two were really insufferable together...
Nuzzling noses, bein' all cute n' cuddly in public...
Embarrassing their children... (referring to Asriel and Chara)
They were so sweet it made me SICK.
Thank god those days are over!

Nice work on the research Edgy, those details definitely support a more consistent context in Undertale's story.

I wonder though... once the Pacifist story is completed, is Flowey really soulless at the end of it all? If he was, he wouldn't have cared if you reset the game. He wouldn't have said he was sorry for pointing out his memories would be erased too, right?

Maybe Asriel is more alive at the end of this story than you'd think. If that's the case, and Asgore starts to age again... someone's eventually going to start searching for the missing prince.

Heh. Okay, maybe it's all just wishful thinking on my part, but I'd love to see an official sequel to this game.

Incidentally, thanks to everyone who joined the discussion, it's fun to talk about these kinds of things!