Undertale

Undertale

Does Mettaton (and maybe Alphys) know about Frisk's powers?
I've seen some suspicious points in the game where Mettaton seems to reference to your ability to SAVE and LOAD. In the musical scene, one of the lyrics he sings is "And then you'll die a lot." Also if you play the game after a neutral run or if you somehow die without saving right before that scene, he says that you look bored and discretely asks if you want to skip through the whole thing. There's some other stuff that I don't quite remember but I've been thinking this for a while. What do you guys think?
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BIKING VIKING Jan 9, 2021 @ 8:25am 
Interesting point... alphys did study humans and their determination, but why would she pass it down to an entertainer robot?
Nathan_12 Jan 9, 2021 @ 8:29am 
Very interesting. To play devils advocate, i would say maybe "dying a lot" means dying once, as he is struggling to rhyme. Also, there are other characters who will let you skip their dialogue if you already met them once.

But still, interesting idea.
harry Jan 21, 2021 @ 1:26pm 
mybe mettton knows alot of things about humans sence its programed to kill humans
snowmanonahoe Feb 6, 2021 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by littlefrillymonster:
Interesting point... alphys did study humans and their determination, but why would she pass it down to an entertainer robot?
Well the robot is her friend. Maybe she told her stuff. I find it unlikely though since alphys made entries in the true lab talking about making her new body

Originally posted by EvilArtiste:
mybe mettton knows alot of things about humans sence its programed to kill humans

It's not, alphys lied about that so that she could "help" the protagonist escape her to boost her self esteem

Originally posted by Nathan_12:
Very interesting. To play devils advocate, i would say maybe "dying a lot" means dying once, as he is struggling to rhyme. Also, there are other characters who will let you skip their dialogue if you already met them once.

But still, interesting idea.

The other characters let you do that because Frisk prematurely knows to do something, not because they let you. For example, you can skip the monologue in the mettaton boss fight by tricking her into turning around right off the bat. That has nothing to do with her helping.

Anyway, I think it's more likely that mettaton just could tell frisk was bored, mainly since he doesn't have anything to do with you skipping his monologue
Nekogaming1500 Feb 6, 2021 @ 7:49pm 
Originally posted by snowmanonahoe:
Originally posted by littlefrillymonster:
Interesting point... alphys did study humans and their determination, but why would she pass it down to an entertainer robot?
Well the robot is her friend. Maybe she told her stuff. I find it unlikely though since alphys made entries in the true lab talking about making her new body

Originally posted by EvilArtiste:
mybe mettton knows alot of things about humans sence its programed to kill humans

It's not, alphys lied about that so that she could "help" the protagonist escape her to boost her self esteem

Originally posted by Nathan_12:
Very interesting. To play devils advocate, i would say maybe "dying a lot" means dying once, as he is struggling to rhyme. Also, there are other characters who will let you skip their dialogue if you already met them once.

But still, interesting idea.

The other characters let you do that because Frisk prematurely knows to do something, not because they let you. For example, you can skip the monologue in the mettaton boss fight by tricking her into turning around right off the bat. That has nothing to do with her helping.

Anyway, I think it's more likely that mettaton just could tell frisk was bored, mainly since he doesn't have anything to do with you skipping his monologue
Mettatons a he.
harry Feb 7, 2021 @ 10:03am 
he isnt a girl or boy hes a R O B O T so no gender
snowmanonahoe Feb 7, 2021 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by EvilArtiste:
he isnt a girl or boy hes a R O B O T so no gender

Well, he/she/they/it/fae is sentient
Nekogaming1500 Feb 7, 2021 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by EvilArtiste:
he isnt a girl or boy hes a R O B O T so no gender
Actually that is by definition wrong. What you actually mean is, Mettaton has no sex. (Gender is what someone refers to themselves by, such as someone who's gender is Male, usually goes by He/Him. Sometimes they go by She or they, or all 3! The combinations are endless. Sex is based on someones genitals. There is only 2 sexes, while there is an infinite amount of genders. Some genders make more sense than others, such as clover gender, which I will die of laughter if someone actually has that.)
TL;DR: You are incorrect.
Conclusion: Mettaton's Gender is Male and his pronouns are He/Him.
Mettaton when he was a ghost had no biological sex, due to ghosts having no genitalia.

Mettaton might have a sex but I don't know or care.
Last edited by Nekogaming1500; Feb 7, 2021 @ 2:15pm
Originally posted by Nekogirl1400:
Originally posted by EvilArtiste:
he isnt a girl or boy hes a R O B O T so no gender
Actually that is by definition wrong. What you actually mean is, Mettaton has no sex. (Gender is what someone refers to themselves by, such as someone who's gender is Male, usually goes by He/Him. Sometimes they go by She or they, or all 3! The combinations are endless. Sex is based on someones genitals. There is only 2 sexes, while there is an infinite amount of genders. Some genders make more sense than others, such as clover gender, which I will die of laughter if someone actually has that.)
TL;DR: You are incorrect.
Conclusion: Mettaton's Gender is Male and his pronouns are He/Him.
Mettaton when he was a ghost had no biological sex, due to ghosts having no genitalia.

Mettaton might have a sex but I don't know or care.
Although I agree 100% with the sentiment of this post and feel everything else is spot on I feel I have to point out that on the subject of genitalia intersex people exist, and I myself have made the mistake of not acknowledging them in the past. I'm honestly not trying to be aggressive here: Since you seem to have the right ideas on everything else gender related I thought you might like to know / be reminded.

Also as a less important point*, but one I find a fun fact: "sex" and "genitalia" don't always correspond either in humans: chromosomes are a lot more complicated than high school science portrays, and there's a lot more variation than you'd think. In fact everything is more complicated than high school curriculums portray; they just give you the general gist of things. And with non humans... well, just look up mushroom sexual characteristics. They're wild.



* If you think this point is actually pretty important, please correct me. While I've tried to look up how different people feel about it I am always open to the possibility that I haven't done my research right.
Last edited by NickOB; Feb 7, 2021 @ 4:57pm
Nekogaming1500 Feb 7, 2021 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by NickOB:
Originally posted by Nekogirl1400:
Actually that is by definition wrong. What you actually mean is, Mettaton has no sex. (Gender is what someone refers to themselves by, such as someone who's gender is Male, usually goes by He/Him. Sometimes they go by She or they, or all 3! The combinations are endless. Sex is based on someones genitals. There is only 2 sexes, while there is an infinite amount of genders. Some genders make more sense than others, such as clover gender, which I will die of laughter if someone actually has that.)
TL;DR: You are incorrect.
Conclusion: Mettaton's Gender is Male and his pronouns are He/Him.
Mettaton when he was a ghost had no biological sex, due to ghosts having no genitalia.

Mettaton might have a sex but I don't know or care.
Although I agree 100% with the sentiment of this post and feel everything else is spot on I feel I have to point out that on the subject of genitalia intersex people exist, and I myself have made the mistake of not acknowledging them in the past. I'm honestly not trying to be aggressive here: Since you seem to have the right ideas on everything else gender related I thought you might like to know / be reminded.

Also as a less important point*, but one I find a fun fact: "sex" and "genitalia" don't always correspond either in humans: chromosomes are a lot more complicated than high school science portrays, and there's a lot more variation than you'd think. In fact everything is more complicated than high school curriculums portray; they just give you the general gist of things. And with non humans... well, just look up mushroom sexual characteristics. They're wild.



* If you think this point is actually pretty important, please correct me. While I've tried to look up how different people feel about it I am always open to the possibility that I haven't done my research right.
Thanks. I actually was gonna acknowledge intersex people, but I didn't want to open up another can of worms. Also, I know not everything is as simple as Y chromosomes and XY chromosomes. It's so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ complex and painful.
harry Feb 7, 2021 @ 7:23pm 
why is this about a robots sex-
Originally posted by littlefrillymonster:
Originally posted by NickOB:
So how comes I'm doing unique posts in every thread I comment in and get told I can't post any more in case I'm a bot, but this gets copy pasted into every thread I'm subscribed to with no problems?

I did consider putting that in wingdings, but I couldn't be arsed.
I hope this translates to something REALLY intresting when someone who is not me translates it, otherwise ill report it.
It just says, “Wow you actually went through the truble of translating this, I’m impressed.” In caps. Misspelling of trouble included.

Meanwhile there are wingding translators online that you can just copy the text into to translate it in seconds...
Last edited by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr; Feb 10, 2021 @ 7:07am
BIKING VIKING Feb 10, 2021 @ 7:09am 
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Originally posted by littlefrillymonster:
I hope this translates to something REALLY intresting when someone who is not me translates it, otherwise ill report it.
It just says, “Wow you actually went through the truble of translating this, I’m impressed.” In caps. Misspelling of trouble included.

Meanwhile there are wingding translators online that you can just copy the text into to translate it in seconds...
well I really didnt think of that. I feel really stupid now.
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