Undertale

Undertale

sadie.behm Mar 25, 2018 @ 8:34am
Montser kid wont fight...??
Monsterkid will not fight me. I have reset genocide 5 times now. And yes, I sought out and killed every monster in each location. Plus, people in pacifist have spared monsterkid when he fought them, even though they didn't kill anything. Do you guys know why this isn't working for me?
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BreakinBenny Mar 25, 2018 @ 10:15am 
Monster Kid will only fight if Waterfall's monsters are all destroyed.
strata_ranger Mar 25, 2018 @ 5:27pm 
What does the save point say when you interact with it?

If it says only "Determination" then you are still on the genocide path. If it says "[number] left" then you have more monsters to kill in the current area.

In addition to the genocide quota, there are a few additional monsters that you must kill (e.g. Shyren). Normally you can expect to have encountered them already, but if for some reason you didn't kill them before meeting the kill quota, then the genocide run fails and the rest of the game will proceed as a Neutral run.
Zoracs Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
Plus, people in pacifist have spared monsterkid when he fought them, even though they didn't kill anything. Do you guys know why this isn't working for me?

That is odd because
Monster Kid is only suppose to "fight you" during a Genocide run.

If anything look up a walkthrough and follow it. It's honestly not that difficult once you know how the Genocide run works.
Last edited by Zoracs; Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:13am
sadie.behm Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by Zoracs:
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
Plus, people in pacifist have spared monsterkid when he fought them, even though they didn't kill anything. Do you guys know why this isn't working for me?

That is odd because
Monster Kid is only suppose to "fight you" during a Genocide run.

If anything look up a walkthrough and follow it. It's honestly not that difficult once you know how the Genocide run works.



Its blacked you out!
sadie.behm Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by BreakinBenny:
Monster Kid will only fight if Waterfall's monsters are all destroyed.

I have sought out and killed every monster in each area.
sadie.behm Mar 26, 2018 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by strata_ranger:
What does the save point say when you interact with it?

If it says only "Determination" then you are still on the genocide path. If it says "[number] left" then you have more monsters to kill in the current area.

In addition to the genocide quota, there are a few additional monsters that you must kill (e.g. Shyren). Normally you can expect to have encountered them already, but if for some reason you didn't kill them before meeting the kill quota, then the genocide run fails and the rest of the game will proceed as a Neutral run.


The save star says "The wind is howling, you are filled with determination." So I'm not sure
HavocTheMushroom Mar 26, 2018 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
Originally posted by strata_ranger:
What does the save point say when you interact with it?

If it says only "Determination" then you are still on the genocide path. If it says "[number] left" then you have more monsters to kill in the current area.

In addition to the genocide quota, there are a few additional monsters that you must kill (e.g. Shyren). Normally you can expect to have encountered them already, but if for some reason you didn't kill them before meeting the kill quota, then the genocide run fails and the rest of the game will proceed as a Neutral run.
The save star says "The wind is howling, you are filled with determination." So I'm not sure
Then something's wrong. It should simply say "Determination." So you've missed a monster, or...actually, that's really wierd.
Spectrum Mar 28, 2018 @ 8:16am 
Did you kill Papyrus in one hit on turn 1?
If not, then you messed up Genocide somewhere in the Ruins or Snowdin.
If so, then you messed up Genocide somewhere in Waterfall.
To do the Genocide route, you have to kill 20+ monsters in the Ruins (not counting the 10 EXP scripted encounter Froggit), 16+ monsters in Snowdin (not counting the scripted encounters, who have to be killed as well as the 16+ monsters), 18+ monsters in Waterfall (not counting Undyne), and 40+ monsters in Hotland. (not counting Mettaton)
Once you start the Genocide route, the save points will always say either "Determination." or "[number] left.", or nothing once you reach New Home.
Last edited by Spectrum; Mar 28, 2018 @ 8:22am
strata_ranger Mar 28, 2018 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
The save star says "The wind is howling, you are filled with determination." So I'm not sure
Wait, isn't that the save point in Undyne's arena (right after she gives her speech)? Did Monster Kid ask you to insult him so he can hate you, then trip and fall while trying to walk away?

Then you missed one of the requirements for the Genocide run, because in a Genocide run you should find a save point placed before the bridge, not after it.

Did you encounter (and kill) Glad Dummy? Or did you fight Mad Dummy?
Last edited by strata_ranger; Mar 28, 2018 @ 1:39pm
sadie.behm Apr 2, 2018 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by strata_ranger:
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
The save star says "The wind is howling, you are filled with determination." So I'm not sure
Wait, isn't that the save point in Undyne's arena (right after she gives her speech)? Did Monster Kid ask you to insult him so he can hate you, then trip and fall while trying to walk away?

Then you missed one of the requirements for the Genocide run, because in a Genocide run you should find a save point placed before the bridge, not after it.

Did you encounter (and kill) Glad Dummy? Or did you fight Mad Dummy?

I have never actually heard of glad dummy. I did fight (but not kill) mad dummy. (even if I wanted to I cant kill him) and yes, there was a save point at temmie village, but that was the last one before Undyne.
sadie.behm Apr 2, 2018 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Spectrum:
Did you kill Papyrus in one hit on turn 1?
If not, then you messed up Genocide somewhere in the Ruins or Snowdin.
If so, then you messed up Genocide somewhere in Waterfall.
To do the Genocide route, you have to kill 20+ monsters in the Ruins (not counting the 10 EXP scripted encounter Froggit), 16+ monsters in Snowdin (not counting the scripted encounters, who have to be killed as well as the 16+ monsters), 18+ monsters in Waterfall (not counting Undyne), and 40+ monsters in Hotland. (not counting Mettaton)
Once you start the Genocide route, the save points will always say either "Determination." or "[number] left.", or nothing once you reach New Home.

I did kill pap if the first turn, but not in one hit, I had to wait for him to spare me, I dont think that I can kill him in one hit though.
sadie.behm Apr 2, 2018 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Mooshroomaster:
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
The save star says "The wind is howling, you are filled with determination." So I'm not sure
Then something's wrong. It should simply say "Determination." So you've missed a monster, or...actually, that's really wierd.

It should ONLY say determination? In every other game that I have known, (even friends, and gamers online) It has said a description before had, as in the wind is howling.
sadie.behm Apr 2, 2018 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Spectrum:
Did you kill Papyrus in one hit on turn 1?
If not, then you messed up Genocide somewhere in the Ruins or Snowdin.
If so, then you messed up Genocide somewhere in Waterfall.
To do the Genocide route, you have to kill 20+ monsters in the Ruins (not counting the 10 EXP scripted encounter Froggit), 16+ monsters in Snowdin (not counting the scripted encounters, who have to be killed as well as the 16+ monsters), 18+ monsters in Waterfall (not counting Undyne), and 40+ monsters in Hotland. (not counting Mettaton)
Once you start the Genocide route, the save points will always say either "Determination." or "[number] left.", or nothing once you reach New Home.
Oh so in genocide it only says determination?
sadie.behm Apr 2, 2018 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
Originally posted by Zoracs:

That is odd because
Monster Kid is only suppose to "fight you" during a Genocide run.

If anything look up a walkthrough and follow it. It's honestly not that difficult once you know how the Genocide run works.



Its blacked you out!
I do know how it works though, you seek out and kill every monster in each area.
blürryy Apr 2, 2018 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by sadie.behm:
Originally posted by strata_ranger:
Wait, isn't that the save point in Undyne's arena (right after she gives her speech)? Did Monster Kid ask you to insult him so he can hate you, then trip and fall while trying to walk away?

Then you missed one of the requirements for the Genocide run, because in a Genocide run you should find a save point placed before the bridge, not after it.

Did you encounter (and kill) Glad Dummy? Or did you fight Mad Dummy?

I have never actually heard of glad dummy. I did fight (but not kill) mad dummy. (even if I wanted to I cant kill him) and yes, there was a save point at temmie village, but that was the last one before Undyne.
glad dummy is basically just mad dummy only on the genocide route, i believe
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