Who really is W.D Gaster.

[Wedran]

So i know many people make theorys about W.D gaster but i think i have an awnser that might be one big step closer to solving the mystery. Now lets talk about the riverperson, if you went around undertale trying to find everything you would know that no one ever mentions the riverperson (for an instance if you call papyrus and undyne next to the riverperson in waterfall undyne sais that if you want to get somwhere else with the river you need to jump in) so basicly no one knows that the riverperson is there. So i looked at some facts and data and i finnaly came to a conclusion. THE RIVERPERSON DOESNT EXIST. Now before you ask how you can see him if he doesnt exist, i have an awnser: He's an entity similair to chara, he isnt really there but you can still see him and interact with him, now back to the fact that he doesnt exist, you know who else doesnt exist? W.D Gaster.
Now those are the main facts so now ill list some other facts about him.
1) He hints towards a lot of secrets in the game. 2) he seems to have the ability to teleport (when he transports you from place to place your always going in the same direction). 3) a lot of things "dont really matter" to him, and that hints that either he's seen some things or that he just doesnt need to worry about things, also it might mean he has knoledge similair to sans' knoledge. Thats about all i was able to gather. Thank you for reading this.

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

He's sans and papyrus's father/uncle/grandpa or something. Toby had to censor him in his concept sketches https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/818211590696800258

The people who say he's scrapped are either crazy people or trolling. There are grey NPC's in the actual game that talk about him.

[DanEgbert]

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He's sans and papyrus's father/uncle/grandpa or something. Toby had to censor him in his concept sketches https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/818211590696800258

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg7VrpHbM

He is not biologically related to Sans and Papyrus. The mystery man sprite is almost definitely not him, the redacted sprite is. Also a piece of him in with his follower.

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

The people who think mystery man isn't gaster probably think the pulp fiction briefcase is just a lightbulb lol

[Ｇｉｇｓｕｋｉ浪人]

He's low hanging fruit for people to start conspiracy theories

(Cough Matpat)

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

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He's low hanging fruit for people to start conspiracy theories

(Cough Matpat)

To be fair MatPat is pretty wrong about everything he touches but it doesn't necessarily mean that all theories are wrong -- that's like seeing a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sculpture and going "man sculptors are dumb as hell"

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

If you don't think mystery man is gaster then you must sacrifice a lot of the logic in the game, like how the flags in the snowball golf course correspond with the human soul colors. It's just how the game displays logic. You're meant to make the connection yourself

[DanEgbert]

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The people who think mystery man isn't gaster probably think the pulp fiction briefcase is just a lightbulb lol

Please enlighten me. Explain how Mystery Man is more of a candidate for Gaster than a sprite who literally speak in wing dings?

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

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The people who think mystery man isn't gaster probably think the pulp fiction briefcase is just a lightbulb lol

Please enlighten me. Explain how Mystery Man is more of a candidate for Gaster than a sprite who literally speak in wing dings?

I think that thing was scrapped or was going to be added in later (before the abc 123 ogg file got replaced with laughs). It might've been an older version of gaster before he settled with something that looks more like Uboa from Yume Nikki, which would make sense.

[DanEgbert]

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Please enlighten me. Explain how Mystery Man is more of a candidate for Gaster than a sprite who literally speak in wing dings?

I think that thing was scrapped or was going to be added in later (before the abc 123 ogg file got replaced with laughs). It might've been an older version of gaster before he settled with something that looks more like Uboa from Yume Nikki, which would make sense.

Those are just assumtions and it doesn't make good evidence. I would say Gaster as a whole got cut, that's why it's a secret room.

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

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I think that thing was scrapped or was going to be added in later (before the abc 123 ogg file got replaced with laughs). It might've been an older version of gaster before he settled with something that looks more like Uboa from Yume Nikki, which would make sense.

Those are just assumtions and it doesn't make good evidence.

A lot of logic in the game is made of assumptions you're meant to piece together yourself, like the aforementioned golf course or what sans is talking about when he mentions anamolies in the timelines. It makes revelations more interesting that way instead of spelling everything out for you (which too much modern media does nowadays, IMO).

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

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The people who think mystery man isn't gaster probably think the pulp fiction briefcase is just a lightbulb lol

I think it's just a Uboa reference.

His sprite definitely is, but Uboa is such an abstract concept in an abstract game that the character of Gaster is incredibly far removed from it

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

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His sprite definitely is, but Uboa is such an abstract concept in an abstract game that the character of Gaster is incredibly far removed from it

I wish Toby acknowledged the fact that he can't just leave a potential theory generator with such small amount of clues

I can understand why gamers would get frustrated at it but I find it way more interesting to watch a film like Mulholland Drive than something that ties everything up at the end. I enjoy personal revelations over revelations that are spoon fed to you.

[DanEgbert]

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Those are just assumtions and it doesn't make good evidence.

A lot of logic in the game is made of assumptions you're meant to piece together yourself, like the aforementioned golf course or what sans is talking about when he mentions anamolies in the timelines. It makes revelations more interesting that way instead of spelling everything out for you (which too much modern media does nowadays, IMO).

Yeah, a lot of things are assumtions, but that is a very flimsy connection. Most things are backed by evidence. Like the fact that in the ball game describes their items, which from the photoshop Flowey fight, shows which items belong to each person. So I would say it comes full circle to make strong evidence. While assuming that redacted was a scrapped Gaster and Mystery Man is current Gaster is very flimsy evidence, even for Undertale.

[Cocyx The Gay Skeleton]

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A lot of logic in the game is made of assumptions you're meant to piece together yourself, like the aforementioned golf course or what sans is talking about when he mentions anamolies in the timelines. It makes revelations more interesting that way instead of spelling everything out for you (which too much modern media does nowadays, IMO).

Yeah, a lot of things are assumtions, but that is a very flimsy connection. Most things are backed by evidence. Like the fact that in the ball game describes their items, which from the photoshop Flowey fight, shows which items belong to each person. So I would say it comes full circle to make strong evidence. While assuming that redacted was a scrapped Gaster and Mystery Man is current Gaster is very flimsy evidence, even form Undertale.

I dunno, common sense tells me that if something is in the actual game, it's something you can theoretically work with and imply something is canon -- while if something is in some abstract test room, it was more likely to be a WIP version of something that already exists.

[DanEgbert]

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Yeah, a lot of things are assumtions, but that is a very flimsy connection. Most things are backed by evidence. Like the fact that in the ball game describes their items, which from the photoshop Flowey fight, shows which items belong to each person. So I would say it comes full circle to make strong evidence. While assuming that redacted was a scrapped Gaster and Mystery Man is current Gaster is very flimsy evidence, even form Undertale.

I dunno, common sense tells me that if something is in the actual game, it's something you can theoretically work with and imply something is canon -- while if something is in some abstract test room, it was more likely to be a WIP version of something that already exists.

Seeing as Mystery Man could be an amalgamate (his surprised sprite has a face on his chest), my common sense tells me that he couldn't possibly be Gaster.